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Title: Is he realy back??
Post by: Bosco123 on November 11, 2008, 09:15:04 AM
Voss :noid I saw him last night, only for a short time though. Is he realy back though? or is it a shade of some sort.
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: sunfan1121 on November 11, 2008, 09:23:59 AM
 :noid :noid
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: VansCrew1 on November 11, 2008, 09:28:24 AM
 :noid :noid

He dose have stats for this tour tho.

15kills in 6 sorties
3langing
2ditches
1capture
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: lowZX14 on November 11, 2008, 09:43:53 AM
Orrrrrrrr is there a Voss impersonator, hmmmmm  :noid
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: Max on November 11, 2008, 12:12:05 PM
Perhaps Voss is impersonating an impersonator who's impersonating Voss.
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: hubsonfire on November 11, 2008, 12:24:23 PM
I was just thinking the other night that with the old IDs freed up, there are really some good IDs available for shades accounts.  :noid
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 11, 2008, 12:27:11 PM
Voss :noid I saw him last night, only for a short time though. Is he realy back though? or is it a shade of some sort.

I think he popped his head in to see what was going on and for some reason didn't expect people to remember who he was.  

Here is the film of me asking him if he was doing some research into his new flight sim and if he has recovered from that terrible red scorpion sting.

Voss is back (http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=fa88a6cccc5fa7bcd2db6fb9a8902bda)


ack-ack
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: Shane on November 11, 2008, 12:33:01 PM
I was just thinking the other night that with the old IDs freed up, there are really some good IDs available for shades accounts.  :noid

whew... i've been repeatedly checking to see if Shane was available, up until just now it hadn't been. I guess it finally got freed and now i have it back - whew.  :rock

only lost 1.3k perkies <shrug> and some beautiful starting stats from this tour.  :noid

 
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: Stang on November 11, 2008, 12:34:22 PM
lol thank God no more 08 in your name... it made you look noobish.

  :rock

and  :noid :noid
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: Kazaa on November 11, 2008, 01:03:29 PM
I've got audio of Voss speaking on vox, is this the real Voss?

I've put it up on my Youtube account.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI)
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: stodd on November 11, 2008, 02:20:17 PM
I've got audio of Voss speaking on vox, is this the real Voss?

I've put it up on my Youtube account.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI)
:rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: SuBWaYCH on November 11, 2008, 04:18:46 PM
I've got audio of Voss speaking on vox, is this the real Voss?

I've put it up on my Youtube account.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI)

 :rofl

 :aok
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: A8TOOL on November 11, 2008, 04:20:47 PM
Why is he such a big deal?
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 11, 2008, 04:24:35 PM
Why is he such a big deal?


1) Scammed the flight sim community
2) Claimed to have flown F-16s for the CIA
3) Claimed to have owned a P-51D
3) Was striken with brain cancer (after he was exposed as a con artist)
4) Was stung by a Red Scorpion that induced a heart attack (again, after his lies and scam were being exposed)
5) Threatened to sue HiTech and HTC for intellectual property theft
6) Threatened to turn in anyone that called him a con artist to his bestest buddy in the FBI
7) The list goes on...best read the infamous VOSS thread from a few years ago.

On an important note...the last time he showed up, he was laying the ground work on another scam.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: glock89 on November 11, 2008, 04:27:23 PM

1) Scammed the flight sim community
2) Claimed to have flown F-16s for the CIA
3) Claimed to have owned a P-51D
3) Was striken with brain cancer (after he was exposed as a con artist)
4) Was stung by a Red Scorpion that induced a heart attack (again, after his lies and scam were being exposed)
5) Threatened to sue HiTech and HTC for intellectual property theft
6) Threatened to turn in anyone that called him a con artist to his bestest buddy in the FBI
7) The list goes on...best read the infamous VOSS thread from a few years ago.

On an important note...the last time he showed up, he was laying the ground work on another scam.


ack-ack
:rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: Furball on November 11, 2008, 04:54:33 PM
whew... i've been repeatedly checking to see if Shane was available, up until just now it hadn't been. I guess it finally got freed and now i have it back - whew.  :rock
Why would anyone want your name?  Who are you?  :confused:

I don't think mr. hinds would come back as Voss, gotta be an imposter.
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: 1pLUs44 on November 11, 2008, 05:03:12 PM
Remember, he was stupid enough to say he flew F-16s for the CIA and claimed to have his own P-51.

And on another note about Voss.... He got into a lot of trouble for what he did apparently, at school yesterday, a dude from the internet security FBI of Austin Texas was at our school. (I'm in Business Computer Information Systems - BCIS)

Someone asked about one of the bigger things he could remember by, and he said something about someone claimed as Paul Hinds (Voss right??) stealing a lot of money. I live about 10 miles away from Austin...
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: Badboy on November 11, 2008, 05:06:05 PM

1) Scammed the flight sim community
2) Claimed to have flown F-16s for the CIA
3) Claimed to have owned a P-51D
3) Was striken with brain cancer (after he was exposed as a con artist)
4) Was stung by a Red Scorpion that induced a heart attack (again, after his lies and scam were being exposed)
5) Threatened to sue HiTech and HTC for intellectual property theft
6) Threatened to turn in anyone that called him a con artist to his bestest buddy in the FBI
7) The list goes on...best read the infamous VOSS thread from a few years ago.

On an important note...the last time he showed up, he was laying the ground work on another scam.


ack-ack

You forgot to mention, he didn't just fly F-16s, he claimed to have shot down two MiGs, and to have a PhD.

So, Voss is an F-16 pilot, MiG killer, CIA Operative, Doctor, Game developer, who won his fight against cancer despite the attempts of deadly carnivorous arthropods... Now that's the kind of guy you want for a wingman :)

Badboy

 

Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: Shane on November 11, 2008, 05:09:53 PM
to be fair, voss did post pictures of his R/C P-51...

 :noid
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: Furball on November 11, 2008, 05:14:27 PM
Maybe it is Adonai's new handle?  :noid
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: Denholm on November 11, 2008, 05:27:14 PM

1) Scammed the flight sim community
2) Claimed to have flown F-16s for the CIA
3) Claimed to have owned a P-51D
3) Was striken with brain cancer (after he was exposed as a con artist)
4) Was stung by a Red Scorpion that induced a heart attack (again, after his lies and scam were being exposed)
5) Threatened to sue HiTech and HTC for intellectual property theft
6) Threatened to turn in anyone that called him a con artist to his bestest buddy in the FBI
7) The list goes on...best read the infamous VOSS thread from a few years ago.

On an important note...the last time he showed up, he was laying the ground work on another scam.


ack-ack
Has anyone reported him?
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: Dinan on November 11, 2008, 06:02:44 PM
I've got audio of Voss speaking on vox, is this the real Voss?

I've put it up on my Youtube account.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI)

Nice Rickroll  :aok
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 11, 2008, 06:50:53 PM
Maybe it is Adonai's new handle?  :noid

I don't think Adonai has the time to post, let alone play with the intensive training he's currently undergoing to transition to the F/A-18E before he ships out to his squadron at Miramar.  Lucky for him there aren't any heart attack inducing red scorpions around San Diego.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: Kazaa on November 11, 2008, 06:57:06 PM
Has anyone reported him?

Yes, I told my mum!  :aok
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: 1Boner on November 11, 2008, 07:01:54 PM
IS HE REALLY BLACK????

What kind of racist spew is that?

Who cares what color he i   , ooooops never mind.
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: macleod01 on November 11, 2008, 07:09:44 PM
:rofl :rofl

Glock, I sat up till 1am GMT tonight reading the 22 pages of the VOSS fiasco. Search yourself for 'Biggest "Egos" in game?' That will show you everything. It appaled me that anyone would have the gall to try to decieve a close community. <S> GE for exposeing this crook for his true colours, and AckAck as well (Btw, have you ever had the FBI at your door?) The AHworld should NEVER be allowed to forget what this... I hesitate to call him a man, I dont think he is worth such a title, did to the game. If it is him, well and good. He can roast on the spit again, im sure there are still people here who will rise against him again, and stop him conning a whole community again.

Btw Grey Eagle. I noticed talk of Renders of TAS, do you happen to have any remaining? I know its been a long time but id be intrested to see them.
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: uptown on November 11, 2008, 07:17:21 PM
i call BS
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: SIK1 on November 11, 2008, 07:42:52 PM
Lucky for him there aren't any heart attack inducing red scorpions around San Diego.
ack-ack

How do you know that isn't what Voss was doing in his F-16 that he was flying for the CIA. What the heck do you think he needed the PhD.D for.

Seriously, I wouldn't think that the Voss that's here now is the same pos Voss from days gone bye. I mean that would just be asinine, of course the criminal mind never ceases to amaze me.

Voss has significant historical context in an aviation environment so I don't think that it would be unheard of for someone that doesn't know the history of on line flight sims to chose that name.
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: zuii on November 11, 2008, 08:20:33 PM
Im sure most of you know this but for those who dont.

Werner Voss
German Air Ace from WWI
48 air victory's
Also a member of Richthofen's "flying circus" and at one point Richthofen's wingman.

died in combat on September 23, 1917

His final air battle was of seemingly epic proportions and to long to list here.
do a web search, its an interesting read.

zuii
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 11, 2008, 08:26:19 PM
How do you know that isn't what Voss was doing in his F-16 that he was flying for the CIA. What the heck do you think he needed the PhD.D for.

Seriously, I wouldn't think that the Voss that's here now is the same pos Voss from days gone bye. I mean that would just be asinine, of course the criminal mind never ceases to amaze me.

Voss has significant historical context in an aviation environment so I don't think that it would be unheard of for someone that doesn't know the history of on line flight sims to chose that name.

Watch the film I posted.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: pervert on November 12, 2008, 03:25:11 AM
His final air battle was of seemingly epic proportions and to long to list here.
do a web search, its an interesting read.

Dude gets ganged eventally the dweebery of spray and pray kills him, who says the MA isnt historically accurate???  :D
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Yr0S0pTVMlU
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: BiPoLaR on November 12, 2008, 03:42:08 AM
Voss :noid I saw him last night, only for a short time though. Is he realy back though? or is it a shade of some sort.
like you would even know who he is. And you post this.
Dear lord the SQUEAK!! has my ears bleeding
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: BiPoLaR on November 12, 2008, 03:44:21 AM
Maybe it is Adonai's new handle?  :noid
i will say this much.
I know for a fact that its not Adonai.
Thats all ill say on the matter  :aok
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: Bronk on November 12, 2008, 05:12:13 AM
You forgot to mention, he didn't just fly F-16s, he claimed to have shot down two MiGs, and to have a PhD.



Badboy

Thought that was 2 Phds? IIRC
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: SlapShot on November 12, 2008, 07:51:03 AM
only lost 1.3k perkies <shrug> and some beautiful starting stats from this tour.  :noid

Score potato ...
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: 1pLUs44 on November 12, 2008, 07:55:38 AM
Im sure most of you know this but for those who dont.

Werner Voss
German Air Ace from WWI
48 air victory's
Also a member of Richthofen's "flying circus" and at one point Richthofen's wingman.

died in combat on September 23, 1917

His final air battle was of seemingly epic proportions and to long to list here.
do a web search, its an interesting read.

zuii

Read up on his final air battle, interesting read!
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: TrueKill on November 12, 2008, 09:16:00 AM

1) Scammed the flight sim community
2) Claimed to have flown F-16s for the CIA
3) Claimed to have owned a P-51D
3) Was striken with brain cancer (after he was exposed as a con artist)
4) Was stung by a Red Scorpion that induced a heart attack (again, after his lies and scam were being exposed)
5) Threatened to sue HiTech and HTC for intellectual property theft
6) Threatened to turn in anyone that called him a con artist to his bestest buddy in the FBI
7) The list goes on...best read the infamous VOSS thread from a few years ago.

On an important note...the last time he showed up, he was laying the ground work on another scam.


ack-ack


Think you have #4 wrong. Wasn't he bitten and not stung?
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: Stang on November 12, 2008, 10:03:50 AM
LOL yeah was a scorpion bite, not a sting.  Always made it a hell of a lot funnier.

 :lol
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: iTunes on November 12, 2008, 10:11:29 AM

1) Scammed the flight sim community
2) Claimed to have flown F-16s for the CIA
3) Claimed to have owned a P-51D
3) Was striken with brain cancer (after he was exposed as a con artist)
4) Was stung by a Red Scorpion that induced a heart attack (again, after his lies and scam were being exposed)
5) Threatened to sue HiTech and HTC for intellectual property theft
6) Threatened to turn in anyone that called him a con artist to his bestest buddy in the FBI
7) The list goes on...best read the infamous VOSS thread from a few years ago.

On an important note...the last time he showed up, he was laying the ground work on another scam.


ack-ack
Are you honestly saying that there  was a guy who flew in here that said all this? I just can't belive it, I want to but the claims are so outlandish that I can't get my head round them. I know there was a thread I read about the guy with the F18 flying or something, at least he came over as a harmless Walter mitty type, this looks like a whole new level.....
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: TrueKill on November 12, 2008, 10:19:09 AM
Are you honestly saying that there  was a guy who flew in here that said all this? I just can't belive it, I want to but the claims are so outlandish that I can't get my head round them. I know there was a thread I read about the guy with the F18 flying or something, at least he came over as a harmless Walter mitty type, this looks like a whole new level.....


Its sad but unfortunately its true. I think I was a two weeker when this all happened but story is he asked the flight sim community to help him financial so he can finish his flight sim and took people for their money. After people started to ask questions is when he started to try to get everyone to feel sorry for him.




http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,123551.0.html
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: Pawz on November 12, 2008, 10:42:38 AM
to be fair, voss did post pictures of his R/C P-51...

 :noid
:rofl :lol :O

Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 12, 2008, 12:27:44 PM
Are you honestly saying that there  was a guy who flew in here that said all this? I just can't belive it, I want to but the claims are so outlandish that I can't get my head round them. I know there was a thread I read about the guy with the F18 flying or something, at least he came over as a harmless Walter mitty type, this looks like a whole new level.....

As Larry said, it's all true and there are some things that were left out, like the post from his CIA partner and wingman that were so incredibily outlandish that those posts alone are comedic gold.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: Bosco123 on November 12, 2008, 01:50:32 PM
like you would even know who he is. And you post this.
Dear lord the SQUEAK!! has my ears bleeding
Do you realy think I'm that stupid? Do you think for two seconds in front of you that I may have read the whole article? Yes, I did read that whole article. No, I was not here when that all went down, but I'm not a complete idiot and I wouldn't have posted it, if I didn't know who he was.
Now, before you say somthing stupid again, please refrain yourself from spewing out sensless crap like that.
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: hubsonfire on November 12, 2008, 07:00:30 PM
If he didn't before, he probably does now. Your spelling is atrocious.
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: 1pLUs44 on November 12, 2008, 07:05:56 PM
Are you honestly saying that there  was a guy who flew in here that said all this? I just can't belive it, I want to but the claims are so outlandish that I can't get my head round them. I know there was a thread I read about the guy with the F18 flying or something, at least he came over as a harmless Walter mitty type, this looks like a whole new level.....


I'm still wondering how the community fell for this.

The "Flying the F-16 and owning a P-51" shoulda been enough for you to call 'bs'
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: Bosco123 on November 12, 2008, 08:06:11 PM
If he didn't before, he probably does now. Your spelling is atrocious.

Is that to me?
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: BiPoLaR on November 12, 2008, 09:32:02 PM
Do you realy think I'm that stupid? Do you think for two seconds in front of you that I may have read the whole article? Yes, I did read that whole article. No, I was not here when that all went down, but I'm not a complete idiot and I wouldn't have posted it, if I didn't know who he was.
Now, before you say somthing stupid again, please refrain yourself from spewing out sensless crap like that.
:rofl :rofl wow...little guy got angry...this is too funny.
All i can hear out of you is the ungodly squeaks echoing down the daycare halls from your voice.
have fun little fella...spongebob is on  :aok
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: Masherbrum on November 12, 2008, 09:43:00 PM
I believe I have pieced this puzzle together.   :uhoh
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: BiPoLaR on November 12, 2008, 09:56:50 PM
I believe I have pieced this puzzle together.   :uhoh
:noid
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: 1pLUs44 on November 12, 2008, 10:44:56 PM
tell us! :noid
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: RumbleB on November 13, 2008, 08:25:32 AM
adonai stops posting on forums then voss turns up ingame  :noid
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: glock89 on November 13, 2008, 01:52:23 PM
adonai stops posting on forums then voss turns up ingame  :noid
Adonai is in Canada with his F/A-18 selling drugs i think.
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: Bosco123 on November 13, 2008, 01:56:44 PM
Sensless post.
Fixed
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: NoBaddy on November 13, 2008, 02:00:32 PM
Hmmmm....just wondering why on earth anyone would care??? :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: VansCrew1 on November 13, 2008, 02:11:31 PM
adonai stops posting on forums then voss turns up ingame  :noid

I have heard adonai brag that he flew an F18. Witch is funny because he said he was a marine that was hurt over seas, something about an IED blew up near him. I cant remember.
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: Larry on November 13, 2008, 02:22:49 PM
People like that who lie about serving should be banned from the BBS and game. Its just as bad as posting about a death that hasnt happened.
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: BiPoLaR on November 13, 2008, 03:09:30 PM
I have heard adonai brag that he flew an F18. Witch is funny because he said he was a marine that was hurt over seas, something about an IED blew up near him. I cant remember.
:noid
This is where Karaya makes an entrance
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: VansCrew1 on November 13, 2008, 04:05:16 PM
:noid
This is where Karaya makes an entrance


Oh Karaya...

 :noid
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: Heater on November 13, 2008, 04:54:05 PM
Hmmmm....just wondering why on earth anyone would care??? :rolleyes:

agree....
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: lunatic1 on November 13, 2008, 05:05:36 PM
scorpian's sting they do not bite :cool:
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: BiPoLaR on November 13, 2008, 05:05:40 PM
Hmmmm....just wondering why on earth anyone would care??? :rolleyes:
ditto.
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: Badboy on November 13, 2008, 05:27:30 PM
Thought that was 2 Phds? IIRC

Must have been, it was me who originally said it. If you check this link:

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,123551.0.html

In that post you will notice that Grey Eagle is quoting a guy called Badz, who wrote that note from memory. Badz was the name I flew under during the latter years in Air Warrior, and it was all a long time ago. I wrote that note and posted it in a private forum at GE's request. Yes I was there at the time, witnessed it all first hand, but my eyesight and memory are disappearing almost as quickly as my hair :)

Badboy
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: Masherbrum on November 13, 2008, 06:15:03 PM
:noid
This is where Karaya makes an entrance

Wassup my nizzle!?  :noid
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: BiPoLaR on November 13, 2008, 08:35:58 PM
Lay the smack down bro. Like you told me last night  :noid
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: BiPoLaR on November 13, 2008, 08:43:15 PM
SQUEAK!!  :cry
:aok
aww pour little fella
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: eagl on November 13, 2008, 08:46:00 PM
Are you honestly saying that there  was a guy who flew in here that said all this? I just can't belive it, I want to but the claims are so outlandish that I can't get my head round them. I know there was a thread I read about the guy with the F18 flying or something, at least he came over as a harmless Walter mitty type, this looks like a whole new level.....

A couple of folks who actually do (did) fly fighters pretty much outed him after he tried to trick us.  He managed to steal some money from one guy, but we figured it out before anyone else got suckered into sending him any money.

The guy is either a really dumb scam artist or is one of the most deluded people I've ever come across online.  What makes him different than other scammers is that he tried to play on most flightsim gamer's respect for RL military pilots to steal from the gaming community.  Some gamers will give him a pass since he didn't actually steal from them personally, but no military (or ex-military) member will let it slide or forget what he did.
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: NoBaddy on November 13, 2008, 09:34:50 PM
Hi Heater...missed you at the con.....meybe next time. :D

Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: Larry on November 13, 2008, 10:03:01 PM
scorpian's sting they do not bite :cool:

Well you just showed you're smarter then voss.
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: BiPoLaR on November 14, 2008, 01:17:46 AM
Hi Heater...missed you at the con.....meybe next time. :D


wonder why  :noid :noid :noid
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: ColKLink on November 14, 2008, 04:23:18 AM
Klinks rule of life #1 would apply here,.....I lernt this when I was about 3-4 yrs old. (Santa didn't show up) Rule #1.... "don't believe ANYTHING your hear, and only 1/2 of what you see."..... Here's another tid bit, that probably also applies,......if it smells like s***, and it sure looks like s&*^,.... it has the texture of s*&%..... its most likely s$#@. <S>  as you were, ...
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: NoBaddy on November 14, 2008, 04:52:58 PM
wonder why  :noid :noid :noid


wonder why what? (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/forum/wtf.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org)

Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: Tr1gg22 on November 14, 2008, 05:27:18 PM
 :noid
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: BiPoLaR on November 14, 2008, 08:24:35 PM
wonder why what? (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/forum/wtf.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org)


put 2 and 2 together  :noid
Title: Re: Is he realy back??
Post by: crazyivan on November 15, 2008, 04:42:17 AM
WHo is this Blim guy.  :lol