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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Swoop on March 03, 2001, 01:38:00 PM
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Cos I havnt read a post from someone that does.....yet.
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[This message has been edited by Swoop (edited 03-03-2001).]
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Dislike it. Extremely. Its a furball map.
2 good things of it is no more fleetdweebing and the re-introduced ground war.
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If ground war means endless streams of Ostwinds and Panzers spawning on a mountain slope 2 minutes away from a base (A8), sorry but I don't want ground war.
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I like it. I like flying arround in it. I like the look of the hills and the alt of all the bases. . I just dont think its ballanced. The vfields demise is signifigant They were alwasy good to try to get SOMETHING done when the preasure was on. Something to divert the bad guys and liven up the good guys. But that doesnt happen now.
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Its disappointing to me. HTC has ALWAYS moved the bar UP.
With this terrain, the bar seems to have slipped DOWN a few notches.....not good (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
Y
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http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum1/HTML/008367.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum1/HTML/008367.html)
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It seems like a flat featureless map to me, ndsiles had vibrant bright colors, mountins, beautyful landscaping, islands, and was SOMEWHAT realistic looking..this map is...well....a uterus.
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Thank Cod the release of the 1.06 superplane set didn't coincide with this new map and the existing strategic situation. We'd be seeing milkrunners high at this point.
MiG
[This message has been edited by MiG Eater (edited 03-03-2001).]
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I do not.
The 1500 ft elev of many fields does help bombers a bit though.
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When did they put this thing in here and WTF is it for?
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I like it
more fighting less flying
Eagler
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Like it. Extremely. Its a furball map.
2 good things of it is no more fleetdweebing and the re-introduced ground war.
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boo-urns
im sad to see the total lack of v bases, the only thing good is the placement of factories and facilities now makes a little more sense. No more ammo facilities on the doorstep of your enemy's base.
gangbanging the lil' country is way worse now too, teams are required to fight a two front war
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I was kinda expecting a solid landmass with lakes with connecting rivers that you could patrol with the fleets and stuff like that..not a giant lake. i think they should make a map where the "sides" are different but equal, as in the landscape is not symetrical and things LOOK different and stuff but all and all the sides are equal in advantages... OR why not just do a different country for each tour like luzon (awsome map) some of nuttz amazing creations, man playing H2H as long as i did i saw some truely AMAZING maps that put ANY MA terrain to total shame.
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I would like to see a map similar to WW2 Europe. Great Britain, Europe and maybe Africa would be cool.
This map is good because there are a ton of fields and there is not so much fly time. The reason I like that is....I took of from a base on the island map.....flew for ten minutes.....and got my bellybutton shot off in 30 seconds. This map I take off....fly for a few minutes then die. This allows me to die more times per hour.
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I vote for Nuttz' terrain for the MA (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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I vote for Nuttz' terrain for the MA
SECOND!
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Don't like it. It limits the available area you have to fight too much.
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Hmmm. 3 positive posts from a total of 17. Not good.
Next question: Has HTC made any comments about sooooo many people disliking the map?
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Add me to the negative column please- too flat, too boring.
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I've only had a chance to fly about an hour in it, but I did enjoy it. I look forward to trying it out some more.
SOB
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I miss the vbases . So I vote no .
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I like it. The fleet ack hugging sneaking cv's off the map and Porkhog arena was getting a bit old for my taste.
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I like it.
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Swoop there's a larger topic in the General Forumn with more positives.
This map doesn't bother me in the least. Seems more balanced as well as easy enough to find good combat action of any type.
-Westy
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Miss VBases.
It is too flat.
Maybe I would like if the terrain had a lot more mountains. Would make more interesting lo level flying, and ditching almost impossible.
Hmmmm...I think 1.04 is the one I liked most. Of course no water in it (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
Cheers,
Pepe
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It's not flat at all, it just has rolling hills instead of a few mountains here and there. I like that alot. Fly some NOE sorties and you'll see what I mean, very interesting down low.
I do miss furball island though, it was nice to have the option of either playing strat or just plain furballing on the same map.
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It's not my favorite map thus far, but I don't dislike it either. Just makes the Historical arenas busy during events which is a good thing!
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Zoso, I fly quite a few NOE missions, despite the sector counters (something I really wish is in the path of solving). I still stick to the flatness of the terrain. It has rolling hills, ok. But the canyon flying fun of 1.04 is here limited to the ridges (I think that is the right word) that divide initially the three countries.
Besides that, NOE over round hilly terrains are OK, but the real challenge are over mountains. There they are really fun.
Cheers,
Pepe.
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With all due respect to HTC cause I know they put a lot of time into this map but I don't like it as far as gameplay goes. I do like the graphics with patches of fields and mountain details. Keep that.
As stated by other folks there's WAY too much furballing going on now and usually gangbanging the lowly country with fewest players who are now fighting on 2 fronts which seem to be the Rooks all the time. At one point we Rooks had the fewest players and were being gangbanged by 2-3 times the same number of nme. Not fun. As such, my scored has suffered terribly (not that I'm into my score that much).
Also, the CV engagements are practially non-existent. Too bad. I felt they really added a nice element. And, I've never seen a CV on a giant lake either. The island campaign made more sense.
I'm mixed about missing the VH bases. Usually it took you WAY too long to reach your target and then get blown away. This now affords the opportunity of a true ground attack. However, one time the Knights just kept respawning over and over and over again until we had a CAP over the area and a few resident Panzers which finally shut that down.
I'd say, keep the graphics changes to the land and the new GV spawning capability but bring back the old map.
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I have no problem with this map. It in no way hinders me from doing what i like to do best...Hunt down enemy AC. As a matter of fact it facilitates it. I can pretty must count out a 3rd of the map as hunting grounds except the few CV ops guys out there.
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This map is WAY better than the "put yer cv up next to enemy base and have it cover yer AAA needs".
For LW, the other map was extremely boring. Fly for a long while get shot down by CV ack. Spent much time trying to avoid the silly cv's, and, when I found them, dive bombing it with a JU88 just to get it removed from the general area.
New map has more furballs, but also bigger potential for old style base captures. I like it.
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Baron Claus "StSanta" Von Ribbentroppen
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
"Live to pull, pull to live"
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I like it.
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What newguy said.
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i love the map for ground attack
but i don't love it cause the gangbanging is increase.. its more 2 country vs one
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nono
56th (FG) FIREBIRDS RAF
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My only real complaint with the map is the obvious invitation to fly off the map to hit enemy dar. It is most disgusting to continually see dar bar suddenly "pop up" over the HQ when there were no enemy planes on the map in the sectors around the dar.
Otherwise I do like this map as it seems to spread the combat out a bit more.
Mav
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Originally posted by Tac:
I vote for Nuttz' terrain for the MA (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
I'll third that !! ... And so far I hate the new map. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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i dont mind a mostly ground map ( i only started playing 1/2 way through last tour ) though i am disappointed at the lack of terrain /variety of features. from what little i've learned about the terrain editor, it is fiendishly difficult to use so please don't think i'm squeaking unnecessarily....
1) the fact that it IS a furball map means i have plenty of good opportunities to practice dog fighting :-)
2) ALTHOUGH it seems less tactical than the last map and.....
3) it looks like a uterus,
4) and due to the map shape/distribution of the airfields whichever side has the highest concentration of units seems to prevail.
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Right now, I don't like it.
There are really only two fronts and both are typically huge furballs. OTOH, the maps are still new enough that I haven't seen any new strategies develop. Most are using brute force to advance. It seems that the three islands in the middle are key to multi-axis attacks.
I may change my mind in a month once I get used to it. The new map and the new planes have brought new problems to face. This is probably a good thing. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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I think it is OK. Gang-banging has always been a problem on ALL maps I've used (started back in v1.03).
I've always liked the ground war - jaboing with the tiffie is ace. This letss me get back to that.
There's nothing wrong with furballs - if you really want 1v1 go to the TA or historical arena, or even offer someone out on ch. 1. Moreover, there are always areas of the map that are quiet and you can precipitate an engagement there.
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The more I play on it the more I hate it (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
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Hate it (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif) And the more I play it the more I dislike it.
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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure
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I LOVE it!! I only would some more and higher mountains!
Much better than the ocean-land map - as funked said, no more fleetdweebing!!!
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Way better than previous map - I like it.
danish
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I like certain aspects of it. I would like to see another bomber base at 3 or 4k to promote more strategic offensives. Most guys only wanna jabo now. I have FITS trying to get rooks to do bombing duty.
I for one LIKE the fleet. BTW the CV goes down much easier now, and the ack are survivable. I have sunk 5 CV's this tour. I survived 3 of the missions. Not all in one piece mind you, but still flew home.
You wanna discourage ack running? Get alt and come booming in.
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Spivey, buffmeister of the Flying Tigers
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I like it. The terrain is more natural.
But nobody listens to me anyway.
*sniff*sniff*
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Triangle Lake is Not bad. A couple more Island bases in the lake would make the fleets more useful and open up the front a bit though. Otherwise its nice variation. But I would have to suggest that two weeks on a map is more than enough, why are tours a month? That way there is less exploiting of weaknesses in maps cause less time to find them.
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Ive decieded I like this map the best over all . Nice ballance in the usefullness of the fleet. I think the south country really has a disadvantage though.
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I must say at first i thought it was very unimaginative, and i still think it could be improved but i gotta say i likr it more than the islands map we had last, and it is growing on me.
I think the centre of the map is completely wasted though and the lake is too symetrical.
perhaps you could add an island in the middle with a special facility which increases a countries perk multiplier by .5 or something...that way all who want perks would want to hold the central island and so fighting would occour there more.
In fact the more i think about this idea the more i like it...how about this.....
A central island facility for developing unusual weapons.It would be developing their secret weapons eg V1,tallboy bombs,Me262s,he163's,b29's, etc and in order to develop a special weapon the Island must be held for say 2 hours whilst a special weapon is developed.(facility would have to be maintained to at least 50% to continue working).Once the weapon is complete that country in control of the island is given the weapon for a limited period (or limited supply).
We could even introduce the ATOM BOMB!!! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
imagine it fighting furiously to protect the island until finally you can strike the enemy facilities with the ultimate weapon! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
what do you think?
hazed
[This message has been edited by hazed- (edited 03-23-2001).]