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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: SKYGUNS on November 12, 2008, 03:08:19 AM
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i couldn't believe it but its true look it up
a airliner on the way to Canada runs out of fuel due to the ground crew confusing liters to gallons. so the 41,000 ft high Boeing glides down to a abandoned airstrip now being used as a dragstrip nearly running over 3 children hanging out there when the races were complete.
more disturbing
Japanese tourist spend a night at a Hawaiian hotel to avoid driving late after a long day and a argument with the desk when the gave them 2 beads instead of one,
they finally get the room they wanted but it smelt bad, they checked everywere to find the source but nothing so they decide to deal with it for the night.
The next day they get a phone call from a homicide detective and informed them they were sleeping on top of a dead body that was hidden in the bead frame.
The wife has a serious fear now that she cant go near any bead other than her own without it being checked..
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i couldn't believe it but its true look it up
a airliner on the way to Canada runs out of fuel due to the ground crew confusing liters to gallons. so the 41,000 ft high Boeing glides down to a abandoned airstrip now being used as a dragstrip nearly running over 3 children hanging out there when the races were complete.
Well if you consider Quebec (departed Montreal) not part of Canada then it was 'on its way to Canada', Edmonton to be exact. ;)
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I call BS on the airline myth. Even if the line crew misconverted the fuel load from pounds to
liters/gallons, the flight crew didn't notice the gauges inflight to the point where they blew right
through their IFR fuel reserves to flameout?
That would have to be the most inept crew in recorded history to screw up on that scale.
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Precisely what I was thinking. If that legend is old, and most likely is. It would mean it came from an era where pilots flew on just a few gauges.
Compass, VOR/DME Locator, Attitude Indicator, and your engine instruments (which includes the fuel gauges.)
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http://www.metacafe.com/watch/yt-wOSBNl0KiUI/maple_style_air_canada_flight_143/
I doubt National Geographic would do a show about it if it wasn't true.
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Gimli Glider was a Air Canada 767-200 that ran out of fuel and glided to a safe landing on an old runway in Gimli Manitoba.
Google it.... I remember when it happened :aok
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Then either it was poor maintenance or an inept crew.
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I call BS on the airline myth. Even if the line crew misconverted the fuel load from pounds to
liters/gallons, the flight crew didn't notice the gauges inflight to the point where they blew right
through their IFR fuel reserves to flameout?
That would have to be the most inept crew in recorded history to screw up on that scale.
It's not a myth, I remember when it happened.
If I recall correctly the pilots thought it was a computer malfunction and were working through diagnostics to figure out why they were getting alarms.
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The Gimli Glider was a cool story and it's true. Could you imagine racing down the strip and seeing an airliner in the rear view? :D
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Yes it's true. This is the link of the article about it from damninteresting.com.
http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=744 (http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=744)
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A crew of engineers from Winnipeg airport clambered into a van and headed for Gimli to assess the damage. During transit, however, their vehicle unexpectedly ran out of fuel, nearly ripping a hole in the delicate space-irony continuum.
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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I call BS on the airline myth. Even if the line crew misconverted the fuel load from pounds to
liters/gallons, the flight crew didn't notice the gauges inflight to the point where they blew right
through their IFR fuel reserves to flameout?
That would have to be the most inept crew in recorded history to screw up on that scale.
The fuel totalisers and indicators were non functional on that flight but it was not a no-go item on the checklist. The gauges were flagged and labelled as non operational.
If the ground crew hadn't mixed up kilos and pounds they would have been golden, but they rolled with half the requisite amount of fuel on board.
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So the linemen screwed up the fuel. The fuel gauges are not on an MEL??? Remind me to
never fly Air Canada..ever. What else isn't on a minimum equipment list..altimeter, airspeed
indicator?
It sounds like a total cluster foxtrot from start to finish.
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If the Americans produced a/c that didn't use archaic units of measurement, there would have been no problem in the first place. :devil
The tv program 'Mayday' did a Gimli Glider show.
http://watch.discoverychannel.ca/mayday/season-5/mayday-gimli-glider/
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Maybe the rest of the world has it messed up. :noid
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Better one -
Air Transat Flight 236, Aug 4th 2001 - Airbus A330 Enroute Toronto to Lisbon.
Ran out of fuel due to a fuel leak over the Atlantic, had to make an emergency 'landing' in the Azores after gliding for an estimated 65-85nm, over 30 minutes.
I believe it is still the record for the longest recorded glide for a civilian jet airliner.
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What happens when your 747 loses an engine (flameout) and you dont follow procedures?
Air China Flight 006, Feb 19th 1985 - B747 Enroute Taipei to LAX
You go into a slow aileron roll while diving reaching 5g's in the process.
Damage to empennage.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/83/Damaged_empennage_of_China_Airlines_Flight_006-N4522V.JPG)
Simulayion of incident
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f6/747-CA006-1.png/400px-747-CA006-1.png)
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At one time I lived (years later) on the site of a DC-8 crash in Portland Oregon (10 people died). I was very young then and we lived a few miles away at the time... remember seeing the tops of trees knocked off.
From:
http://mattcampsblog.blogspot.com/2007/08/1978-portland-plane-crash.html
When the landing gear was lowered, only two of the landing gear indicator lights lit up. The plane repeatedly circled in the vicinity of Portland while the crew investigated the problem. Still uncertain, the pilot decided to go around once again, against the recommendation of the co-pilot. As a result the plane ran out of fuel and crash-landed at 285 feet elevation. There were 24 serious injuries, and ten deaths.
The investigation revealed that there was, in fact, no problem with the landing gear and that the unlit indicator light bulb had burnt out. The captain had failed to monitor properly the aircraft's fuel state and to properly respond to the low fuel state and the crewmember's advisories regarding fuel state. This resulted in fuel exhaustion to all engines. His inattention resulted from preoccupation with a landing gear malfunction and preparations for a possible landing emergency. The other two flight crewmembers failed to either to fully comprehend the criticality of the fuel state or to successfully communicate their concern to the captain.