15 Bombers without re arming.... :lol
INteresting
welllllllll... it is possible if he took out the lead bomber and the drone(s) went in as freebies...
maybe it was in offline mode? or an old H2H room :noid
I was just reading through some threads and in game I would have to say the P-51 is by far the best plane in the game. At speed and 1 notch a flaps it will turn on a dime. The ammo load is very good and if your a crack shot the kills will pile up fast. The fuel load out is the key to its performance in my opinion. I usually took a load out of 75% with drop tanks for bomber hunting and 50 to 75% for fighter cap sweeps. My longest mission was 1 hour and 47 minutes with 15 bombers and 6 fighters with out rearming. Most kill mission with out rearming was 23 being 6 bombers and 17 fighters. In the hands of a good stick the Pony is near unbeatable. Best pony pilot I ever came across is Steve. The hubbub about the F4u is quite true the flight model is stretched as thin as a rubber band but still I'll fly the Pony over any others. I must say this though I have flown the f4u4 and I landed 15 and still had a ton of ammo left. I am not sure of what the ammo load out difference is between the Pony and the Hog but i'll still take the Pony.
| F4U-1/1A | 4x400rds/gun and 2x375rds/gun |
| F4U-1C | 2x230rds/gun and 2x232rds/gun |
| F4U-1D/4 | 6x400rds/gun |
| P-51B | 2x280rds/gun and 2x350rds/gun |
| P-51D | 6-gun package: 4x270rds/gun and 2x400rds/gun |
| 4-gun package: 2x500rds/gun and 2x400rds/gun |
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expect to see your stats überanalysed pretty soon.
I know how he gets that many a squad member of mine uses the same method he would average 20-40 rounds per bomber. I know he has killed a bomber with two 50 cal rounds as well.
welllllllll... it is possible if he took out the lead bomber and the drone(s) went in as freebies...
maybe it was in offline mode? or an old H2H room :noid
Gaboon,
Ammunition loadouts are as follows:
F4U-1/1A 4x400rds/gun and 2x375rds/gun F4U-1C 2x230rds/gun and 2x232rds/gun F4U-1D/4 6x400rds/gun P-51B 2x280rds/gun and 2x350rds/gun P-51D 6-gun package: 4x270rds/gun and 2x400rds/gun 4-gun package: 2x500rds/gun and 2x400rds/gun
I know how he gets that many a squad member of mine uses the same method he would average 20-40 rounds per bomber. I know he has killed a bomber with two 50 cal rounds as well.I'd like to see how someone fires just 2 rounds.
Tap the primary trigger. Sounds like a lot of luck and practice.
Killing bombers is one thing i know how to do and do it very well if you dont believe me just ask 999ooo and his bomber mate I am sure they will vouch for my bomber attack tactics. If you have patience and know how to attack a bomber it will go down and you wont be touched 99% of the time. Airjer was one of those 15 bombers that day ask him also. Agood aim comes into play also most of my fighter kills are on very short burst taking a wing off or dead in the head on high deflection shot.
I don't care who you are or how much E you have, I will smoke your airplane. I rarely lose all my airplanes to one player.
I'm resisting the urge.
then kill a buff at this precise moment... this I'd have to see to believe. :)
I only had two bullets left and came in hot from his 11 as usual and the head shot killed him.
I was hoping you wouldn't.
I don't care who you are or how much E you have, I will smoke your airplane. I rarely lose all my airplanes to one player.
Actually Twenty is indeed one of the few players that can consistently prevent me from killing all three of his buffs. Usually I limp home after 1 or 2 kills... :furious
Must..... resist......... arghhh.
Must..... resist......... arghhh.
If the Ki-84 didn't risk loosing it's wings at high speed it would be the best plane in the set...actually I still think it's better :D
Best all-around is the F4U-4.....hands down. Damn it hurt to say that!!!!
HAYATE is quite limited untill the fight degenerates below 300 mph, even then most corsairs will easily own it till you can drain every last bit of E out of them! Spits, 38s, and nikis are also regular ki killers unless the ki driver is a good one. Don't get me wrong , the ki is a killer but it has some very strong limitations!!
Besides the part loss problem due to high speed I don't really agree with any of your assessment. I constantly chew spits and nikis up in the Ki84; especially the nikis. They try to play the turning game and lose when I take them vertical and whip out the wonder flaps. P38s flown by a better pilot does give me fits. Well flown Hogs are tough for anyone to beat but I fair very well against them in a Ki.
Below 12k and above 15k the Ki-84 has very impressive flight characteristics.
Amazingly enough the plane that gives me the hardest time is a decently flown Yak. Go figure.
I constantly chew spits and nikis up in the Ki84; especially the nikis.
Amazingly enough the plane that gives me the hardest time is a decently flown Yak.
Are you trimming the 84 manualy, at med-high speeds? I don't remember it being dead meat in those circumstances except when combat trim limited its elevator authority. It doesn't fly great above 400, but it's not dead meat either.
Are you trimming the 84 manualy, at med-high speeds? I don't remember it being dead meat in those circumstances except when combat trim limited its elevator authority. It doesn't fly great above 400, but it's not dead meat either.
I was just reading through some threads and in game I would have to say the P-51 is by far the best plane in the game. At speed and 1 notch a flaps it will turn on a dime. The ammo load is very good and if your a crack shot the kills will pile up fast. The fuel load out is the key to its performance in my opinion. I usually took a load out of 75% with drop tanks for bomber hunting and 50 to 75% for fighter cap sweeps. My longest mission was 1 hour and 47 minutes with 15 bombers and 6 fighters with out rearming. Most kill mission with out rearming was 23 being 6 bombers and 17 fighters. In the hands of a good stick the Pony is near unbeatable. Best pony pilot I ever came across is Steve. The hubbub about the F4u is quite true the flight model is stretched as thin as a rubber band but still I'll fly the Pony over any others. I must say this though I have flown the f4u4 and I landed 15 and still had a ton of ammo left. I am not sure of what the ammo load out difference is between the Pony and the Hog but i'll still take the Pony.
Must..... resist......... arghhh.Dooo eeet man.
If your patient and kill by just flaming them you could easily get 25-30 buff kills. I have got 10 in a Poni B with out rearming...with 150 rounds or so left. I know on average if wait on the trigger I can kill a fighter with just 30-40 rounds total. Surviving long enough to get those kills might be another matter. At lower alts I feel like my buff hunting skills are pretty sharp.
BTW Thanks for those 51B/D fights Steve....dont know if I have seen a D keep up (and beat at times) with me like that before then!
Race
"Ryan"
If Steve ever wants to test 24 ......Been there, done that.
The dark side is pulling at me.... .. must resist....... the dark side *gurgle*... *ack* arrrrrrghghhhyeaahhh.
welllllllll... it is possible if he took out the lead bomber and the drone(s) went in as freebies...
maybe it was in offline mode? or an old H2H room :noid
I'd like to see how someone fires just 2 rounds.
I dont understand how people use trim for anything other than maintaining neutral balance on the plane.
It does increase turn rate when combat trim is actualy limiting full authority potential. E.g. in the mossie at some speeds (around 350 IIRC).
It does increase turn rate when combat trim is actualy limiting full authority potential. E.g. in the mossie at some speeds (around 350 IIRC).
AKAK I am talking about a specific problem with the mossie combat trim, the same as the Ki84. It won't allow you to pull as hard as it could. It's trimmed for neutral flight. As soon as I've got my CH gear sorted out I'll post a film of it. You litteraly can't stall the mossie without trimming the elevator around 340mph ias or so. Trim it, and you can.
AKAK I am talking about a specific problem with the mossie combat trim, the same as the Ki84. It won't allow you to pull as hard as it could. It's trimmed for neutral flight. As soon as I've got my CH gear sorted out I'll post a film of it. You litteraly can't stall the mossie without trimming the elevator around 340mph ias or so. Trim it, and you can.
I'd like to see how someone fires just 2 rounds.All in the head & she goes boom.
Inasmuch as the Ki-84 can't begin deploying flaps until dangerously slow (danger in that it is a sitting duck for the third man in), its pilot must get the fight into the vertical and use the Ki-84's strengths to break down the opposition's E, where it can dominate the fight by forcing the fight up hill.
A. 4 notches of flaps with little to no stick input.
or
B. 1 notches of flap with 2/3rds evelator input.
Which has more drag vs lift?
Medium altitude is where the Ki-84 really performs well. By medium alt, I mean between 10k and 15k. Up there, you are not dealing with control stiffening and aero loading as this is a function of IAS (indicated air speed), not TAS (true airspeed). The lower it gets, the more control stiffening and aero loading becomes an issue. Control stiffening can be overcome by trim. Aero loading cannot be overcome, except by paying close attention to your speed.
Where the Ki-84 is at greatest risk is when speeds are just below corner velocity. At a speed near that, most American fighters can get one or more notches (for lack of a better term) of flaps out. This enables them to cut the corner and pull lead. Inasmuch as the Ki-84 can't begin deploying flaps until dangerously slow (danger in that it is a sitting duck for the third man in), its pilot must get the fight into the vertical and use the Ki-84's strengths to break down the opposition's E, where it can dominate the fight by forcing the fight up hill.
My regards,
Widewing
Key. Don't believe that there are any Allied fighters, including the Spits, that can keep up with the Frank using this technique.A good Spit Mk VIII driver will give a good 84 driver fits.
- oldman
Absolutely correct Wide. Stop telling peeps how to fly the '84 though.....She'll own anything except a really good 109 driver, if flown correctly. Lusche gave me the goose the other night and I'm still peeved about it...especially since I now know we've got the Ki84 modelled with Jap fuel from late war. I got Lusche, errr, Snailman in a down and dirty the other night( he started out the fight with 3K over me) and started taking the fight uphill after a few E bleeding turns, only to watch him catch me in the vert in a 109G6. ( Kind of annoying that it's modelled with crap fuel, when all late war axis aircraft had crappy fuel as it was.) Looking up the figures, (from allied testing in war) I should have had almost 600 feet per minute more climb than he did at that point in fight.... instead he followed me up and stuck until he tatered me.
A good Spit Mk VIII driver will give a good 84 driver fits.
Are you trimming the 84 manualy, at med-high speeds? I don't remember it being dead meat in those circumstances except when combat trim limited its elevator authority. It doesn't fly great above 400, but it's not dead meat either.