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Title: Solid State Hard Drives are Here!
Post by: Grayeagle on November 14, 2008, 02:21:08 PM

http://www.imation.com/products/ssd/index.html

wow.

No more motors right next to data storage mediums.
No more 'seek' speed.
No more mechanical contraptions just to be able to read data.

Man these things were science fiction just a few years ago.
A bit high priced (couple hundred for a 32g ..and up) .. like everything else in electronics tho, it will go down as the market matures.

Holy cow.
I cant wait :)
'Paging the hard drive' will actually be as fast as RAM .. oooo!!
So .. umm .. a bank of these instead of RAM ..kinda like a 32g RAM chip eh?

-GE aka Frank
Title: Re: Solid State Hard Drives are Here!
Post by: Baitman on November 14, 2008, 02:57:25 PM
After many dead Hard Drives in my laptop because of the environment it work in. I am very happy to see it out finally. :aok
Title: Re: Solid State Hard Drives are Here!
Post by: indy007 on November 14, 2008, 02:57:41 PM
Back in the Doom 2 days, if you were big pimpin' and had 40 megs of ram, you could create a ramdrive. Copy the game to the ram drive, and prepare for blazing speeds that you had never, ever seen before.
Title: Re: Solid State Hard Drives are Here!
Post by: AKHog on November 14, 2008, 03:17:46 PM
What is the difference in these and the solid state flash drives that have been around for years?
Title: Re: Solid State Hard Drives are Here!
Post by: Reschke on November 14, 2008, 03:41:26 PM
Great...now I just have to wait 2-4 years to get one big enough to hold all my pr0n. I can't find a price on a 128GB but if the 64GB is $717 @ buy.com I can bet that the 128 is probably $1k or slightly over that.

I don't see why they are that much with an 8GB flash drive is under $40 now at Best Buy...I know they aren't even close to the same things but still they need to get off the price gouging and move on.
Title: Re: Solid State Hard Drives are Here!
Post by: Vulcan on November 14, 2008, 03:43:43 PM
capacity.... yawn
random read/write performance.... yawn

Yeah I'll stick to my terabyte seagates thanks ;)
Title: Re: Solid State Hard Drives are Here!
Post by: JAGED on November 14, 2008, 03:44:11 PM
Great...now I just have to wait 2-4 years to get one big enough to hold all my pr0n. I can't find a price on a 128GB but if the 64GB is $717 @ buy.com I can bet that the 128 is probably $1k or slightly over that.

I don't see why they are that much with an 8GB flash drive is under $40 now at Best Buy...I know they aren't even close to the same things but still they need to get off the price gouging and move on.

The techno-geeks will pave, err pay, the way for the rest of us.  Patience young Padawan...  :D
Title: Re: Solid State Hard Drives are Here!
Post by: AKHog on November 14, 2008, 03:45:53 PM
I don't see why they are that much with an 8GB flash drive is under $40 now at Best Buy...I know they aren't even close to the same things but still they need to get off the price gouging and move on.

So what makes them "not even close"?
Title: Re: Solid State Hard Drives are Here!
Post by: JAGED on November 14, 2008, 03:47:24 PM
So what makes them "not even close"?

Just a guess here, but they aren't limited by the USB speed restrictions...
Title: Re: Solid State Hard Drives are Here!
Post by: Mr No Name on November 14, 2008, 03:58:30 PM
SSHDs are amazingly fast, my brother works for cisco and I went to a technology show with him, cold boot to full OS load (even for *gag* vista were honestly jaw dropping on midrange to upper speed machines (Test machine with SSHDs was just an old Q6600 - less than 200 for the processor now)
Title: Re: Solid State Hard Drives are Here!
Post by: Curlew on November 14, 2008, 03:58:41 PM
w00t w00t :aok
Title: Re: Solid State Hard Drives are Here!
Post by: Grayeagle on November 14, 2008, 04:23:41 PM
Coupla things that intrigue me about SSHD an stuff ...

Like RAM ..if you increase pipleline width, you decrease time for data txfer.
How big a bus could you build a motherboard to handle, along with a matching solid state device ..so in effect the solid state device replaces RAM altogether .. speed of data txfer is a biggie.

Amount of data would be the next priority .. thing about solid state device is, it can be a 3 dimensional grid, unlike a hard drive disc which is 2d.

If solid state device can be made a cube, bus hookups could literally be on each face of it. Not limited to one 2d side or blade.
This would rock data txfer speeds.

Flash drives as stated above are limited to USB speed.. the whole infrastructure of computers as we know them is going to change IMHO.

Why stick to present hard drive format .. go for max data txfer with max data storage, get crazy :)

You would have slowest component for startup being the video device :) ..how fast can it light up the screen :)
Frame rates? .. limited by refresh rate of pixels on the screen :)

Banzaii baby .. next ten years are gonna be awesome.

-GE (I want my Holodeck)
Title: Re: Solid State Hard Drives are Here!
Post by: Race on November 14, 2008, 04:29:04 PM
   Where did I see a video that said we were going to have computers smarter than humans by 2025 for less than 1000 dollars? Or one dollar by 2050? Indeed it will be a very exciting time and this is a major step.

Race
Title: Re: Solid State Hard Drives are Here!
Post by: RedDg on November 14, 2008, 05:39:28 PM
Great...now I just have to wait 2-4 years to get one big enough to hold all my pr0n. I can't find a price on a 128GB but if the 64GB is $717 @ buy.com I can bet that the 128 is probably $1k or slightly over that.

I don't see why they are that much with an 8GB flash drive is under $40 now at Best Buy...I know they aren't even close to the same things but still they need to get off the price gouging and move on.

Watch for the daily sales here: http://edealinfo.com

8GB Flash drives sometimes go for $14.99 with free shipping.
Title: Re: Solid State Hard Drives are Here!
Post by: Meatwad on November 14, 2008, 05:55:39 PM
   Where did I see a video that said we were going to have computers smarter than humans by 2025 for less than 1000 dollars? Or one dollar by 2050? Indeed it will be a very exciting time and this is a major step.

Race

Or get sucked into the game grid, Tron style
Title: Re: Solid State Hard Drives are Here!
Post by: iTunes on November 14, 2008, 06:01:06 PM
So breaking it down into laymens terms, how does all this solid stuff make computers better?
Title: Re: Solid State Hard Drives are Here!
Post by: Fishu on November 14, 2008, 06:42:55 PM
So breaking it down into laymens terms, how does all this solid stuff make computers better?

Completely silent, more resistant to shock damage when in operation, significantly smaller, more reliable due to lack of moving parts, consumes less electricity and produces less heat, light weight, faster...

Cons: Currently alot more expensive compared to conventional harddrives, especially the faster types.
Title: Re: Solid State Hard Drives are Here!
Post by: Motherland on November 14, 2008, 07:13:33 PM
Sounds awesome. Hopefully the price will drop enough in the next year and a half or so so I can put one in the next computer I build...
Title: Re: Solid State Hard Drives are Here!
Post by: Gaidin on November 14, 2008, 07:20:57 PM
Check out newegg.com  They have some 128gig SSD for under 500.  Not sure of quality, but they have them.
Title: Re: Solid State Hard Drives are Here!
Post by: Fishu on November 14, 2008, 07:40:05 PM
Sounds awesome. Hopefully the price will drop enough in the next year and a half or so so I can put one in the next computer I build...

In about a year it may become an excellent choice for the OS drive and some programs. When the price drops to a reasonable level I will buy one and use it for harddrive intensive applications and frequenly accessed files, while the conventional harddrives will be used for storing infrequently accessed data.

Just has to keep in mind that the solid drives can be slower than the conventional drives, so care must be taken to not blindly buy one if you're looking for the benefits in speed.
Title: Re: Solid State Hard Drives are Here!
Post by: soda72 on November 14, 2008, 08:43:19 PM
It would be interesting to see what the results would be with database servers like Progress, mySQL, or SQL server using one of these drives..   
Title: Re: Solid State Hard Drives are Here!
Post by: Mr No Name on June 02, 2011, 02:35:22 AM
See Rule #10
Title: Re: Solid State Hard Drives are Here!
Post by: 4deck on June 02, 2011, 07:57:48 AM
**cough cough linux cough cough**
Title: Re: Solid State Hard Drives are Here!
Post by: Tac on June 02, 2011, 09:55:52 AM
They still need to come down in price. A decent sized SSD of 100gb is ridiculously expensive.
Title: Re: Solid State Hard Drives are Here!
Post by: Mr No Name on June 02, 2011, 10:00:48 AM
I LOVE several different linux distros, but for games, Windows is still the king... And yes, I use Cedega and wine, they work on older games like AH but not newer games.
Title: Re: Solid State Hard Drives are Here!
Post by: Mr No Name on June 02, 2011, 10:01:30 AM
All I use is a 32mb for OS and games
Title: Re: Solid State Hard Drives are Here!
Post by: gyrene81 on June 02, 2011, 11:19:50 AM
nevermind...thanks tigger for pointing out what should have been blatantly obvious...  :lol ...darn necro bumpers
Title: Re: Solid State Hard Drives are Here!
Post by: Tigger29 on June 02, 2011, 11:47:22 AM
grayeagle, you almost sound like this is the first you have heard about ssd's...  :lol  i'm sure that's not the case though.

 :rofl  reschke...8GB flash drives are under $15...lower end units are under $10...that's still more than $1 per gigabyte. flash memory (which is what flash and ssd drives are made of) has always costed more per gigabyte than standard hardware.

Did you even bother to look at the dates these were originally posted?!
Title: Re: Solid State Hard Drives are Here!
Post by: gyrene81 on June 02, 2011, 11:57:01 AM
Did you even bother to look at the dates these were originally posted?!
:rofl  damn...keerist, i did but for some reason it didn't register, just read all the posts and neglected to notice the necro bumper mention...  :uhoh   ... sorry tigger...i'm editing my post to nvm...  :lol  :D

more coffee...more coffee...