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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: 1pLUs44 on November 15, 2008, 11:48:04 AM
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I remember seeing a picture of a B-25J that was made for level bombing (glass nose) and I noticed that it actually had a tail gun (basically the same type of defensive armament as the B-25H). The B-25 overall is a great great bomber. I like to use the B-25C for low level bombing runs on VH's and what not when-ever I do bomb, but the B-25C lacks the defensive armament that it needs.
Here's some pics:
(http://www.realtime.net/centex/B-25YRsmall.jpg)
(http://pacificwarbirds.org/images/executive_sweet.jpg)
In my opinion, this would make the B-25 used even greater than it is now.
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I want the J strafer with 12 .50cal in the nose
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yup i think that the b-25 is awesome for attacking/strafing but when it gets jumped by fightrs, it is doomed
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yup i think that the b-25 is awesome for attacking/strafing but when it gets jumped by fightrs, it is doomed
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Wrong, I have shot down spitfires, nikis, 190s, and an assist on a 109K4 that all tried to kill me. This doesn't include the lancaster(s) :D
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I want the J strafer with 12 .50cal in the nose
You can also think of it as a 2nd gun package. Kind of like the B-25C strafer.
Where I live in Georgetown, we have a B-25J (I think it's a J) called the "Devil Dog" Strafer...
(http://k53.pbase.com/v3/45/598445/1/50564310.B25DevilDoga.jpg)
Really cool to see this thing fly at the Airport less than 5 miles away from my house. :rock
Edit: http://www.devildogsquadron.com/
Here is some more info about it.
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I like the camo skin on the first one :aok
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Yes it would be a worthy add. :aok
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i think itd be useful. i know i would go bombing more. i like the B25, but as OP said, when jumped by fighters in the C it lacks defensive armament.
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I like the camo skin on the first one :aok
Which is a camo scheme from a MTO B25C and inaccurate for a 25J
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If its for our B25C I might have to put in a request with Fencer then... :)
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Wrong, I have shot down spitfires, nikis, 190s, and an assist on a 109K4 that all tried to kill me. This doesn't include the lancaster(s) :D
I shot a me262 in a B25H once with the tailgun :lol
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I'm sure that pilot felt worthless afterward.
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I shot a me262 in a B25H once with the tailgun :lol
Nice!!! :aok :aok
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I killed a 262 with the top turret in a B25C. :D
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Wrong, I have shot down spitfires, nikis, 190s, and an assist on a 109K4 that all tried to kill me. This doesn't include the lancaster(s) :D
And all of them were probably from a gun position and not through any 'dogfighting' so NEARY is correct. The B-25H is fodder for a fighter unless the fighter pilot is dumb enough to saddle on the dead six position. It's not like the A-20 that can be swung around like a fighter.
I've shot down more planes in a B-25H than you have but I am not under any false illusions that it can stand toe to toe against a fighter.
ack-ack
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I shot a me262 in a B25H once with the tailgun :lol
I HO'd dedalos with the 75mm cannon once. One minute he was there guns blazing in his Bf 110 and then the next minute nothing but a few pieces of debris floating down. Though, he returned the favor the next flight, I missed with a d1.0 shot, just passing under his nose. :cry
ack-ack
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And all of them were probably from a gun position and not through any 'dogfighting' so NEARY is correct. The B-25H is fodder for a fighter unless the fighter pilot is dumb enough to saddle on the dead six position. It's not like the A-20 that can be swung around like a fighter.
I've shot down more planes in a B-25H than you have but I am not under any false illusions that it can stand toe to toe against a fighter.
ack-ack
Been flying the B-25 since it's release (can ask most any of Precision) and I gotta half agree with you. The B25 is by no means a good dog fighter, but it is possible to dogfight with it and get kills from such. Takes a lot of work that's for sure, and about 90% of the people flying can out-maneuver the B25, just a matter of luck and dumb pilots on the other end and aim. :D
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I agree but I bet someone will tell you that "their are other country's plane sets that need to be addressed first"
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Funny part about this request is the J wouldn't add anything the H doesn't have. I commend HTC for thinking a bit outside the box and giving us the earlier birds as well as the H with the same tail, waist and top turret as the J would have. as well as the 75mm nose gun. There is nothing you could do in a J in AH that you can't do in an H. The mix of the 25C and H covers all the bases quite well for the 25.
And last I checked it's a B25 not and P25 or even and A25 so it's not meant to be a dogfighter. Not that I don't go looking for trouble in a light B25C strafer now and then.
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The best thing is getting a fighter to play dogfight with you.. And just as he's got his hands full midway through a maneuver like the top of a messy barrel roll, you suddenly settle the B25 into auto pilot and spam the fighter with the defensive guns from point blank.
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Funny part about this request is the J wouldn't add anything the H doesn't have. I commend HTC for thinking a bit outside the box and giving us the earlier birds as well as the H with the same tail, waist and top turret as the J would have. as well as the 75mm nose gun. There is nothing you could do in a J in AH that you can't do in an H. The mix of the 25C and H covers all the bases quite well for the 25.
And last I checked it's a B25 not and P25 or even and A25 so it's not meant to be a dogfighter. Not that I don't go looking for trouble in a light B25C strafer now and then.
I would like the B-25J for a level bombing purpose in AHII. I do it in the 25C, but I dont like the fact that I'm completely unprotected. IF we were to get the B-25J, taking down a VH so we can take a base back... etc would be much handier. Whenever I do bomb, I use the 25C because of it's speed and ability to climb. :salute
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Funny part about this request is the J wouldn't add anything the H doesn't have. I commend HTC for thinking a bit outside the box and giving us the earlier birds as well as the H with the same tail, waist and top turret as the J would have. as well as the 75mm nose gun. There is nothing you could do in a J in AH that you can't do in an H. The mix of the 25C and H covers all the bases quite well for the 25.
And last I checked it's a B25 not and P25 or even and A25 so it's not meant to be a dogfighter. Not that I don't go looking for trouble in a light B25C strafer now and then.
The J had a bombsight, didn't it?
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I would like the B-25J for a level bombing purpose in AHII. I do it in the 25C, but I dont like the fact that I'm completely unprotected. IF we were to get the B-25J, taking down a VH so we can take a base back... etc would be much handier. Whenever I do bomb, I use the 25C because of it's speed and ability to climb. :salute
The defenses in the J/H aren't really that much better. The turret IMO is rather badly placed and provides insufficient coverage to the rear, and absolutely none under the tail. The tailgun itself is highly vulnerable which exacerbates this. There's been a number of times I've lost my tail gun in the H really quickly, and an enemy could get out of reach of the turret below my tail much more easily.
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I would like the B-25J for a level bombing purpose in AHII. I do it in the 25C, but I dont like the fact that I'm completely unprotected. IF we were to get the B-25J, taking down a VH so we can take a base back... etc would be much handier. Whenever I do bomb, I use the 25C because of it's speed and ability to climb. :salute
So take B26s? bigger bomb load anyway and plenty of guns out the back :)
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Yea, but they're not updated, and too many updated planes have spoiled me! :lol