Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Wolfala on November 18, 2008, 10:26:32 AM
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The more I learn about it (Which isn't much), the more I don't see how either one is going to survive. I mean, lifetime medical benefits with ZERO COPAY? How many of us have that at our day jobs? Full salary and benefits if the job does not fit the Union Description for the worker? So you sit around on your bellybutton all day with zero incentive - no wonder workers are loyal to the Union and not the Company.
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Sounds like i need to switch jobs.
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The next best thing then working for the goverment.
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That's why you pay 40,000 bucks for a pick-up truck. :rolleyes:
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Sounds like i need to switch jobs.
Dude...don't tell me you have no idea what those high school drop outs are getting at the plants and refineries around Deer Park and Pasadena??
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Dude...don't tell me you have no idea what those high school drop outs are getting at the plants and refineries around Deer Park and Pasadena??
Enlighten us please
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Imagine no experience starting pay around $25/hour and doing 80 hr/weeks. There are plenty of guys here in the early-mid 20's banking 6 figures. All union protected, of course.
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I don't understand where all these crazy figures come from. My dad retired from GM in 1998 as a material handler (high/low operator) making $18 an hour. He worked an average of 70 hours a week his last ten years. He pays the first $1000 (each for him and my mom) of his medical expenses each year then pays a $50 copay for office visits and prescriptions. He draws a $2800 a month pension and is scared to death. He has it better than a lot but not near as well as the picture some would paint.
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Bail out! bail out! :O UAW vs. GM. :uhoh
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I don't understand where all these crazy figures come from. My dad retired from GM in 1998 as a material handler (high/low operator) making $18 an hour. He worked an average of 70 hours a week his last ten years. He pays the first $1000 (each for him and my mom) of his medical expenses each year then pays a $50 copay for office visits and prescriptions. He draws a $2800 a month pension and is scared to death. He has it better than a lot but not near as well as the picture some would paint.
that's more than my bringhome was as a mechanic. it's a LOT more than my bringhome now as a shop owner(for now)
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buh-bye both. Both are worthless, they were somewhat good in the '20s and '30s.
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If I had to chose between Line workers getting the pay and the benefits or the Glass tower executives getting HUGE bonuses I will side with the line guys thank you very much :aok
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How about both the execs and the line guys switching to minimum wage for a while? :huh
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I am for a bail out.... :O
I need time to get out of everything before the economy collapses :noid
Buy Gold Coins :noid
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that's more than my bringhome was as a mechanic. it's a LOT more than my bringhome now as a shop owner(for now)
So you worked for the same shop for thirty years? When my dad started working for GM in 1968 he made less than three dollars an hour; still a decent wage but quite modest. He started as a line worker then ran a flywheel balancer (called a broach) then moved into material handling. After thirty years of loyalty and near perfect attendance he had attained a $19 an hour wage and earned a retirement package that included health benefits which had been promised to him from his first day on the job.
Now as to your comment about your earnings as a shop owner, if you are smart and doing it right you operate your business as an LLC. Your vehicles are owned by the business. Your wife is on the payroll. You have a decent tax rightoff for your home office. All your utilities and basic necessities are paid for by the business. You and your accountant play the books so that after all of your "business" expenses are taken care of your business shows little to no profit. Your only tax liability is in the payroll taxes from the paycheck you right yourself and your wife each week which is basically just "mad money" because the LLC pays for everything (except maybe your groceries). When put into the proper perspective your statement about earning less as the shop owner is just plain silly.
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Imagine no experience starting pay around $25/hour and doing 80 hr/weeks. There are plenty of guys here in the early-mid 20's banking 6 figures. All union protected, of course.
that totally explains ls1tech, it all makes since now. Now excuse me while i shoot myself for wasting time and money on school.
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Might look into at least a refund on your spelling class.
lawlz!
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at work, no time for spell/grammar check. Math is were i suck, i begged my way through that.
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Maybe I'll go and knock Chevrons door at the refinery in Richmond, CA, christ, 25 bucks an hour with no experience? I'll take that in a heartbeat.
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Around here you have to know someone on the inside to get in. Ever seen Urban Cowboy? Just like that.
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i thought you just had to be a sweetheart bag, silly me.
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Only if you want to drive a Mustang.
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easy mix up.
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Those greedy, no good, union line workers are bleeding the company to death. You know they had to switch from Crystal to Dom Perignon to on the General Motors fleet of executive private jets? Good Lord, have they no mercy?
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Those greedy, no good, union line workers are bleeding the company to death. You know they had to switch from Crystal to Dom Perignon to on the General Motors fleet of executive private jets? Good Lord, have they no mercy?
I'm not so worried about the money the spend on the private jets...it's their attitude:
"Like many other major corporations, all three have policies requiring their CEOs to travel in private jets for safety reasons."
What commercial airlines are inherently unsafe for CEOs? Or do they not want to mix with the peasants?
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they not want to mix with the peasants
That is the root of the problem.
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I don't know what's worse? Bad executives or uneducated hordes all acting like they are bad executives.
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The next best thing then working for the goverment.
Not unless you are willing to give all your backround away to them. You better give the fullest detail.
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Around here you have to know someone on the inside to get in. Ever seen Urban Cowboy? Just like that.
It is like that in Wichita, KS if you want to work for Boeing, hawker-beachcraf, Cecena, Rythaon, and others
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Production rate of
17,000,000 vehicles per year last year :aok
to
10,000,000 vehicles for next year :huh
Ya I think a lot of people are going to lose their jobs :cry
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Production rate of
17,000,000 vehicles per year last year :aok
to
10,000,000 vehicles for next year :huh
Ya I think a lot of people are going to lose their jobs :cry
or they could take longer breaks.
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or they could take longer breaks.
:rofl
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Depression <----- its the 500 lb gorilla in the room :confused: