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Title: Movie Makers
Post by: ebfd11 on November 21, 2008, 01:02:20 PM
I dont know if this has been asked yet but other than fraps what other programs are listed to make movies from ours??? any help would be appreciated
Title: Re: Movie Makers
Post by: Latrobe on November 21, 2008, 01:15:11 PM
I know Sony Vegas is a big one, but very expensive.
Title: Re: Movie Makers
Post by: Fulmar on November 21, 2008, 03:36:00 PM
Windows Movie Maker is the free one a lot of beginners use.
Title: Re: Movie Makers
Post by: Wraith_TMS on November 21, 2008, 03:49:04 PM
I use Guncam (shareware) to capture the film in the AH filmviewer, then usually Windows Moviemaker (comes with the operating system).  There are other programs too, like Super (c) to handle file conversions, or VirtualDub, to handle things like cropping the video frames.

Luck!
Title: Re: Movie Makers
Post by: Denholm on November 21, 2008, 04:26:50 PM
...(comes with the operating system)...
Nuh uh! Not here it doesn't.
Title: Re: Movie Makers
Post by: PFactorDave on November 21, 2008, 04:29:40 PM
I use Guncam (shareware) to capture the film in the AH filmviewer

Does Guncam allow capture of clips longer then 30 seconds?  I can't bring myself to use the free version of fraps due to the capture limitation and the fraps across the top.  I also don't want to pay for fraps if there is something free to make the capture.  Once captured, I use Roxio Video Wave8 for the editing.  All that said, I've only made one film, so what do I know.
Title: Re: Movie Makers
Post by: flatiron1 on November 21, 2008, 05:23:23 PM
I tried gun cam but did not like the quality.
Title: Re: Movie Makers
Post by: 1pLUs44 on November 21, 2008, 05:27:01 PM
Does Guncam allow capture of clips longer then 30 seconds?  I can't bring myself to use the free version of fraps due to the capture limitation and the fraps across the top.  I also don't want to pay for fraps if there is something free to make the capture.  Once captured, I use Roxio Video Wave8 for the editing.  All that said, I've only made one film, so what do I know.

Yea, but most of my shots are less than 30 seconds. Do you really need more than that?
Title: Re: Movie Makers
Post by: Denholm on November 22, 2008, 09:22:13 AM
He may not, but he may be like me. The short time I attempted film capture, I despised filming limitations. Always had me watching the clock to make sure I got the shot.
Title: Re: Movie Makers
Post by: ImADot on November 22, 2008, 10:27:08 AM
Yea, but most of my shots are less than 30 seconds. Do you really need more than that?

With what little film-making experience I have (like a couple of months in AH2), added to the years of average-quality photography, I've learned to shoot more than I think I need.  It might take 50 pictures to find "The One".  You also need some roll-in and roll-out time in your films to allow for scene transitions.  You can always cut a scene shorter, but it's dang hard to make one longer.
Title: Re: Movie Makers
Post by: kculon on November 27, 2008, 02:20:30 PM
You don't "need" 3rd party capture software. You can get good avi's from the film viewer it's self.
I used fraps in my film for fx (matrix) shots and capturing higher res for some shots.
All you need is the film viewer, a NLE and your good to go.
<S>kc
Title: Re: Movie Makers
Post by: Denholm on November 28, 2008, 04:31:20 PM
The problem for some of us, though, is that the export process won't operate properly. Therefore FRAPS is a must.
Title: Re: Movie Makers
Post by: JETBLST on December 22, 2008, 08:54:03 PM
I go AH Viewer, I do my scene cutting there.  With scene capture etc.  I like this because I can get all my camera shots, and views from the other players.  Once I have all my scenes I use fraps to convert them to something my movie maker  (Magix Movie Maker 12) Best Buy.  Not too expensive.  I use it for all my family video and actual flying videos as well.  There inside MM12 I can do almost anything.

I suggest MM12 because Windows Movie Maker died on my once to no avail getting it back.  I lost valuable films.  So....

MM12 is pretty good.  Havent seen Vegas but I bet thats really good too.
Title: Re: Movie Makers
Post by: Wraith_TMS on January 06, 2009, 04:41:31 PM
If you're willing to spend the $20 reg fee, I recommend Guncam. 

I've found it to be an invaluable tool for several reasons but primarily for the freedom it gives me.  I record films in AH, obviously, but I rerecord and convert to AVI in Guncam while viewing it in the film viewer.  While that adds a step to the videomaking process, it gives me control of what I record, how much, different shots, etc., and best of all, I can capture in-game voice and sounds, which is something the AH Filmviewer AVI converter won't do.  Then you can splice the AVI bits converted from Guncam within MS Moviemaker, Vegas, Premiere, VirtualDub,or even within Guncam itself (but that feature set is still a little limited so I prefer something like MSMM or Premiere). If you don't care about sound, or unlimited record times, by all means go with Fraps, but personally, I've found Guncam to be worth the price.

Title: Re: Movie Makers
Post by: Fulmar on January 06, 2009, 09:52:58 PM
What's wrong with Fraps recording sounds?  Never had an issue with Fraps and using game sounds with it.
Title: Re: Movie Makers
Post by: Wraith_TMS on January 07, 2009, 05:34:48 PM
Nothing Fulmar, I simply misspoke on that.  I do have a pref for Guncam, but I suppose if one is willing to pay the reg fee for either Fraps or Guncam, they are probably very comparable about recording times and sound.  I just find Guncam to have a lot of features and versatility that I like.  User's choice, I guess.