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Title: I thought this should be added...
Post by: Bosco123 on November 21, 2008, 03:56:30 PM
A Russian aircraft, although I still want Italian fighters to be added too, A Pe-2, which was used quite a lot on the German line:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/Pe-2.jpg)

General characteristics

Crew: Three - pilot, gunner, bombardier
Length: 12.66 m (41 ft 6 in)
Wingspan: 17.16 m (56 ft 3 in)
Height: 3.5 m (11 ft 6 in)
Wing area: 40.5 m² (436 ft²)
Empty weight: 5,875 kg (12,952 lb)
Loaded weight: 7,563 kg (16,639 lb)
Max takeoff weight: 8,495 kg (18,728 lb)
Powerplant: 2× Klimov M-105PF liquid-cooled V-12, 903 kW (1,210 hp) each
Performance

Maximum speed: 580 km/h (360 mph)
Range: 1,160 km (721 miles)
Service ceiling 8,800 m (28,870 ft)
Rate of climb: 7.2 m/s (1,410 ft/min)
Wing loading: 186 kg/m² (38 lb/ft²)
Power/mass: 250 W/kg (0.15 hp/lb)
Armament


Guns:

2x 7.62 mm fixed ShKAS machine guns in the nose, one replaced by a 12.7 mmBerezin UB on later versions.
2x rearward firing 7.62 mm ShKAS.
From the middle of 1942 defensive armament included 1 Berezin UB machine gun in the upper bombardier's turret, 1 Berezin UB in gunner's ventral hatch and 1 ShKAS which could be fired by a gunner from port, starboard or upper mountings[3]
Some planes were also equipped with DAG-10 launcher, firing AG-2 parachute timed grenades.
Bombs: 1,600 kg (3,520 lb) of bombs

(Quoted from wikipedia.org)
Title: Re: I thought this should be added...
Post by: Denholm on November 21, 2008, 04:19:58 PM
Hooray for more variety! :aok
Title: Re: I thought this should be added...
Post by: waystin2 on November 21, 2008, 04:35:06 PM
I have asked for this one before and wholeheartedly agree! :aok
Title: Re: I thought this should be added...
Post by: MaSonZ on November 21, 2008, 05:41:17 PM
nothing wrong with Russian planes. im all for it!  :aok
Title: Re: I thought this should be added...
Post by: Stampf on November 21, 2008, 06:20:59 PM
Bring it!  :aok
Title: Re: I thought this should be added...
Post by: 33Vortex on November 21, 2008, 06:31:50 PM
Pe-2 would be a great and very well motivated addition to the rather meagre Soviet planeset. There are tons of a/c I'd love to see added, some of the most charming are early-war planes. How about the Blenheim, the Defiant or the Gladiator? The list is long, HTC know it, they have to make priorities.
Title: Re: I thought this should be added...
Post by: Motherland on November 21, 2008, 06:36:34 PM
I'm all for anything being added to the VVS planeset so we can do some real Eastern Front meatgrinder scenarios.
Title: Re: I thought this should be added...
Post by: Selino631 on November 21, 2008, 11:10:04 PM
This is BETTER :aok


(http://kits.kitreview.com/images/SH72087%20Fiat%20G.55%20Centauro.jpg)

Title: Re: I thought this should be added...
Post by: Bosco123 on November 22, 2008, 11:55:10 AM
This is BETTER :aok


(http://kits.kitreview.com/images/SH72087%20Fiat%20G.55%20Centauro.jpg)


It is, but we need to get the offset planes straight.
Title: Re: I thought this should be added...
Post by: Karnak on November 22, 2008, 04:15:11 PM
This is BETTER :aok


(http://kits.kitreview.com/images/SH72087%20Fiat%20G.55%20Centauro.jpg)


And so insignificant compared to the Pe-2 I don't know how you even have the gall to post it in this thread.
Title: Re: I thought this should be added...
Post by: Boozeman on November 23, 2008, 07:41:06 AM
And so insignificant compared to the Pe-2 I don't know how you even have the gall to post it in this thread.

While I agree that the hijack was a bit uncalled for, I am quite amazed by the levels of hate you have towards the G.55 - why is that? 
Title: Re: I thought this should be added...
Post by: CAVPFCDD on November 23, 2008, 11:44:57 AM
Looks like a russian mossy, i like it, not to add to the thread hijacking but that g.55 is a great plane, beautiful lines on it, why dont you make a thread about it, it deserves it, but the pe 2= awsome, bring it :rock :devil :rock
Title: Re: I thought this should be added...
Post by: Karnak on November 23, 2008, 01:21:43 PM
While I agree that the hijack was a bit uncalled for, I am quite amazed by the levels of hate you have towards the G.55 - why is that? 
I don't hate it.  It is a neat aircraft, a bit of trivia from WWII aviation.

But that is just it, trivia.

The G.55 had significantly less effect on the war than the C.205 and the C.205 only had about 250 airframes produced and essentially no impact on the war.

I would much, much rather see things like the Pe-2, G4M, Wellington, He111, C.200, Ki-43 and I-16 added before any extremely low production aircraft like the G.55.


CAVPFCDD,

I have often seen the Pe-2 compared to the Mosquito.
Title: Re: I thought this should be added...
Post by: Boozeman on November 24, 2008, 03:19:58 AM
The funny thing though is, the last plane added to AH, which had quite a significant part in WW2, is nothing more than trivia here. It has much less impact/usage in AH gameplay than it had in RL, so what does it tell us?

Just being releveant by production numbers means nothing in AH terms, if it does not have performance as back up. It's sad for sure, but thats how things work here. Speaking of the 205, albeit being maybe insignificant in WW2, it has on average just as much usage as the historically much more important 109G2/G6 combined, in both LW and MW.

The G.55 may have been insignificant in WW2, but it's not insignificant for AH, and that is all that matters here. 

Title: Re: I thought this should be added...
Post by: Karnak on November 24, 2008, 11:05:22 AM
The G.55 may have been insignificant in WW2, but it's not insignificant for AH, and that is all that matters here. 


I disagree, strongly.