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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: MaSonZ on November 21, 2008, 05:46:57 PM
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says it in the title, what shots do you go for in a plane? i personally go for the wing, unless i need to pack up shot quickly, then i go for what i get. wondering what some people try to get, if anthing at all. :salute
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I shoot for center mass. My aim isn't good enough to pick specific parts. So I shoot for the middle assuming that my margin for error is largest that way.
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I aim for the red airplane...
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I go for the fuselage; in a dead six shot, if all else fails, I may get an elevator or rudder, drastically cutting my opponent's ability to fight; or, I may cut off all of his tail feathers, sending him shooting upward or yawing out of control; in the best case scenario, I may even kill his pilot. On deflection shots, I stand a great chance of killing him outright or damaging/ knocking out his engine.
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I always aim for the cockpit area, If I can't then my secondary choice is the either side of the wing.
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Wing.
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Knock knock.
The pilot. It's much more fun to send them straight to the tower or have the suffer for a while.
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Cockpit.
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Wing.
Same.
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I usually fire somewhere in the general direction of the enemy
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Canopy!
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I shoot for the middle of the plane and then with the small variation in my accuracy, I know i will knock off some critical part if I miss.
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Wing root or tail. 99% of the time hits to these areas from a solid burst will result in catastrophic damage to the target.
ack-ack
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Aim for the meat.
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But then I usually shoot between 200-300, it doesn't matter where I aim. Half a sec burst usually do the job.
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I just shoot at whats there.
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I go for the cockpit, then if that doesn't work, I aim for a wing. (I guess it's the right wing, as that's the one I usually seem to hit)
The negative part about aiming for the fuselage I've learned is, that you either send them straight to the tower, or you dont and they're almost not even damaged. Where as the wing, you'll most probably take all, or part of it off.
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I go for the cockpit, then if that doesn't work, I aim for a wing. (I guess it's the right wing, as that's the one I usually seem to hit)
The negative part about aiming for the fuselage I've learned is, that you either send them straight to the tower, or you dont and they're almost not even damaged. Where as the wing, you'll most probably take all, or part of it off.
omg w/ what aiming 45?
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omg w/ what aiming 45?
The aiming in a plane other than a 190 Dora
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I aim for the plane. :aok
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not sure,I always close my eyes ......
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I aim for the ground. So I can say, I meant to do that. :aok Im the one shooting at my squadies please ignore. :lol
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I'm lucky to hit within half a kilometer of the plane anymore. I simply cannot aim; when I do get a shot, I aim for whatever part of the enemy plane flies into my stream of bullets. :D
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Tequila...though I'm not adverse to a shot of bourbon on occasion. :devil
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10 20mm's at 200yrds and it becomes irrelevant. For bombers I go for the inner fuel tank in the wings or an upper 12 at the cockpit.
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If you can actually aim at over 200 then either your just really good or I just completely suck.
I am for the red circle.
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When I can see it, the wing root....its the easist kill for me with four .50 cals.
The way I fight usually leaves me with out a clear view of the bullets impacting.
Race
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When I can see it, the wing root....its the easist kill for me with four .50 cals.
The way I fight usually leaves me with out a clear view of the bullets impacting.
Race
Do you close your eyes?
Care to explain :)
:salute
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High AoA pulling high Gs.....I fly the a the B Poni alot with full flaps.
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High AoA pulling high Gs.....I fly the a the B Poni alot with full flaps.
:aok
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Any shot i can get.... :cry
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When I can see it, the wing root....its the easist kill for me with four .50 cals.
The way I fight usually leaves me with out a clear view of the bullets impacting.
Race
Yup, often when I pull for a shot, it's in black out. The second pic I posted was in black out. I remember because I had a ride along
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I aim pilots for pilots joystick :D
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All of them.
The closer the better.
-GE
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ALL of em.
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ammo? i doan need no steenkin' ammo!! :rock
i'm good enough to fly them into the ground. :noid
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I aim for the STARS!!!
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what's this aim thing i keep hearing about? :huh i just close my eyes and hold down the trigger.
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In my sig... :aok
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A go for shots of sailor jerry's spiced naval rum as should you
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deflection shots I try to aim for the engine/cockpit, but usually remove parts of the tail. never pull enuf lead :(
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Tail and wingroot.
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I consider myself lucky enough just to hit the plane.
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Most of the time i shoot them when i turning and i cant see so....I dont know. :noid
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worst shot/drink = 4 horseman
Jim Beam
Jack Daniels
Johnny Walker or Old Grandad
Jagermeister
ungh puts hair on your tounge
I like tequilla, Cabo Wabo, Herradora, or petron rock.
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My stile is waiting till I get real close, usally d200 and under, then I let them have it. I tend to fly the K4 so my tactics and shooting are somewhat different.
On the odd occasion, I tend to shoot the tater from around 400-800d, flying straight and level or in a 45 degreee climb behind a con etc.
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worst shot/drink = 4 horseman
Jim Beam
Jack Daniels
Johnny Walker or Old Grandad
Jagermeister
This man needs to be shot :D
I go for Cockpit shots as i am very fond of spontaneous combustion
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Aiming?? Vas ist das? :rofl
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Aiming?? Vas ist das? :rofl
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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usualy decide a few mili-seconds before starting to fire and generaly hit the bit i wasnt aiming for.
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Aiming for front parts of AC.
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Anywhere but the engine
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Yup, often when I pull for a shot, it's in black out. The second pic I posted was in black out. I remember because I had a ride along
The funny thing is I do the same, I think 80% of my shots happen during pulling heavy G to lead. I usually partially or fully black out for a second and then wake up w/ a kill. Even if the guy I'm engaging see me diving on him and he pull as much G as he could to break, however the angle that I usually approach allow me to follow him w/ the break and fire for .5 to 1 sec before pulling off.
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Steve, what's your averge rounds per kill w/ the 50 cals? The way I approach my target only give me .5-1 sec of firing time before I gotta pull off to avoid the collision. Which is why I prefer the D-9 over the P-51. 90% of my sorties I hit my 10 kills part by the time I hit 200 cannon rounds remaining on the D-9. Average about every 100 rounds = 3 kills and 1-3 assists.
I can't do it w/ any planes that have 50 cals, or Hispanos. I tried earlier today flying a tempest, I do the exact thing I do w/ the D-9 but my shots are off. I'm guessing I'm used to the MG151? (cannon for the LW birds). I'd get on the enemy's high 6 about 600 yards out, approach to 300 and fire til i get to 100 and pull off. Which bring me to another point, of why I've been flying the LW over any other country fighter. I've got the aiming and projectile rate of the LWs gun and I don't want to mess it up w/ different gun.
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Wherever I can hit the guy, because my aim sucks.
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You still have the best avatar on the bbs spikes :)
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You still have the best avatar on the bbs spikes :)
That's why his aim sucks, he is probably using it for his gunsight as well.
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Now that's funny
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Ah yes, that's a great avatar. I think Trieze had it first, then we traded, and then spikes picked it up and I continued with the 38 theme.
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I tend to aim for the cockpit more than anything, the best shot realy is under the belly, because you are always going to eithet blow them up or set them on fire. Since I fly the G6 alot, I try and take the historical side of things (Erich Hartmann) and don't fire untill D200 or less, and it realy just makes the plane do some funny things. :)
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Steve, what's your averge rounds per kill w/ the 50 cals?
Don't know about Steve but I, on average use less than 100 rounds per kill. I average around 7 kills per sortie and I find myself usually landing from lack of fuel rather than lack of bullets. An average sortie will see me returning to base with around half of my ammo load (I take the full 2000 round load out). Last week I had a 12 kill sortie and I had over 1000 .50 caliber rounds and 150 cannon rounds (forgot to switch from DTs to cannon) remaining.
On the other hand, there have been some flights were I've only gotten one or two kills and have just a few hundred rounds remaining but on average, I usually end up with quite a few rounds left over.
At least to me, it shows that when I hit an area like the wing root or tail section (the two places I aim for) and hit with a burst at close range (I tend to fire at 400yds or closer) I tend to kill the target with that burst. However, if I fire at longer ranges (600yrds+) I tend to waste more bullets than anything else and it usually takes more ammo for me to down the target. I also don't have to worry my pretty little head about convergence issues, so all of my bursts hit for maximum impact.
ack-ack
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Same with my D9, I usually get to about 10, w/ 200-250 cannons left but only enough fuel for RTB.
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Don't know about Steve but I, on average use less than 100 rounds per kill. I average around 7 kills per sortie and I find myself usually landing from lack of fuel rather than lack of bullets. An average sortie will see me returning to base with around half of my ammo load (I take the full 2000 round load out). Last week I had a 12 kill sortie and I had over 1000 .50 caliber rounds and 150 cannon rounds (forgot to switch from DTs to cannon) remaining.
On the other hand, there have been some flights were I've only gotten one or two kills and have just a few hundred rounds remaining but on average, I usually end up with quite a few rounds left over.
At least to me, it shows that when I hit an area like the wing root or tail section (the two places I aim for) and hit with a burst at close range (I tend to fire at 400yds or closer) I tend to kill the target with that burst. However, if I fire at longer ranges (600yrds+) I tend to waste more bullets than anything else and it usually takes more ammo for me to down the target. I also don't have to worry my pretty little head about convergence issues, so all of my bursts hit for maximum impact.
ack-ack
As a matter of Interest here, I find it very Interesting in the different shooting styles of most allied crates compared to Axis ones, Do you fire from around d400 purely due to the nose mounted weapons? Or would you fire from the same distance in a wing mounted Aircraft?
As I fly the K4 almost exclusively, I don't have the luxury of d400 unless it's in a climb or a con straight and level and so I have to close the gap and it's almost always in a cross shot or very rarely a shot on thier six. And do 50's allow you the opportunity to place your shots from d400?
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As a matter of Interest here, I find it very Interesting in the different shooting styles of most allied crates compared to Axis ones, Do you fire from around d400 purely due to the nose mounted weapons? Or would you fire from the same distance in a wing mounted Aircraft?
As I fly the K4 almost exclusively, I don't have the luxury of d400 unless it's in a climb or a con straight and level and so I have to close the gap and it's almost always in a cross shot or very rarely a shot on thier six. And do 50's allow you the opportunity to place your shots from d400?
Yes they do. In the 38 you can "place" them even further out.
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I aim right for the left front gear.
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Same with my D9, I usually get to about 10, w/ 200-250 cannons left but only enough fuel for RTB.
7 kills per sortie, 10 kills per sortie. You guys are far too uber for me.
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I am ultra-uber. I get 5 deaths to the kill. My awards include the Honorary Ewe and the Lambs Wool Loincloth.
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If you watch most my film, I'm always out of fuel by 10 kills=/ but still got 200-250 cannon rounds left. I think A LOT of it have to do w/ resisting to firing early. I know I've miss a few kill by not firing at 400 yards but I also surely know waiting that one extra second then open it up is a lot more secure.
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If you watch most my film, I'm always out of fuel by 10 kills=/ but still got 200-250 cannon rounds left. I think A LOT of it have to do w/ resisting to firing early. I know I've miss a few kill by not firing at 400 yards but I also surely know waiting that one extra second then open it up is a lot more secure.
Hey, like I said... at 10 kills per sortie, you are way out of my league.
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Shh Steve=p you 51 flyer you! go FW ! go LW !! They r more fun! It's like a flying coffin! I dunno I stop flyin for score though so I never care if I land anymore. I try too sometime but I found myself enjoying TT in my ubah new found Yak-9T. Though I do run to piss em noob 3-4 spits 16 that dive on my 190 from 15k! It just fun to run around in circle watching em firing from 800 yards out =p
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And do 50's allow you the opportunity to place your shots from d400?
Well, to be honest the P-38 allows me to place shots at 400yrds but yes, the guns on the P-38 are quite capable of letting you put rounds into the bogie at that range in a hard maneuvering fight.
ack-ack
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BUFFs: wing roots with cannons; wing tips with mgs
Fighters: tail when dead 6, wing roots all others except HOs, canopy for HOers
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if it a spittie : wing
if it a jap plane: any part make it burst to flames
american : tail, they fall off so easily
german : if it 262 any part, 109: wing 190:tail
italian: white flag
russian: they have small planes so any part can do a lot of damage
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And do 50's allow you the opportunity to place your shots from d400?
Ya, as long as it's not a dead six shot.. hard to see the canopy from dead six. My convergence is at 350. I fire when the icon goes to 400. I think it's still greater than 400 when it switches... 599? Anyway, you can see from screenies I've posted in other threads that I often hit the canopy.
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I fire when the icon goes to 400. I think it's still greater than 400 when it switches... 599?
It's 499.
0 - 99 ~ d0
100 - 299 ~ d200
300 - 499 ~ d400
500 - 699 ~ d600
700 - 899 ~ d800
and so on
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It's 499.
0 - 99 ~ d0
100 - 299 ~ d200
300 - 499 ~ d400
500 - 699 ~ d600
700 - 899 ~ d800
and so on
ty
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Wow, I never realized the Allied crates give you that luxury, no wonder every man and his dog flies em. Interesting to hear from Steve (pony Driver) and Ack(38 driver) the same theme, I thought there might have been some difference between nose mounted and wing mounted guns. So the key to 50's is the Convergence I'm assuming? Unlike the tater were you only need a round or two, you boys will need a lot of shells hitting the right spot at the right time then I'm assuming? From my perspective it's confirmed that I can't afford to let an Allied driver get more than half a second guns on me, Just have to keep their nose pointed up and off a small angle.
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Pretty much any angled shot except dead six and "you're dead" 12
:salute
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Wow, I never realized the Allied crates give you that luxury, no wonder every man and his dog flies em. Interesting to hear from Steve (pony Driver) and Ack(38 driver) the same theme, I thought there might have been some difference between nose mounted and wing mounted guns. So the key to 50's is the Convergence I'm assuming? Unlike the tater were you only need a round or two, you boys will need a lot of shells hitting the right spot at the right time then I'm assuming? From my perspective it's confirmed that I can't afford to let an Allied driver get more than half a second guns on me, Just have to keep their nose pointed up and off a small angle.
Well, AKAK doesn't have to concern himself with convergence issues in his 38. Unless chasing though(or buffs), I speculate he doesn't fire often beyond 600. You can certainly hit beyond this range but the lethality drops off noticeably.
6.50's at convergence requires very little time to score a fatal hit, even on buffs(but a smidge longer). What often happens is, even if I miss the canopy, I set them on fire.
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Varies from plane to plane for me, but for spits (I mention spits because it's the #1 flown plane) I always go for the wing roots.
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when i see 400 I aim big. I like to spray some shots to get them to turn then open with all guns when i see the top profile of the plane.
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I find deflection shots easier than a 6 shot, simply because they're so much more predictable. The guy is in a turn and you know where he's going. A shot from behind is unpredictable, especially so in AH where players don't feel the effects of G forces, stick stirring is the norm.
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I always aim for the cigar-shaped part of a fighter, i seem to hit a con's pilot fairly frequently. By aiming at that if my aim is a little off there's a chance i'll hit the wings, and if i open fire too late there's a good chance of taking off the V or H stabiliser. I generally like to open fire at 200yrds, but if it's a deflection shot i'm happy to open fire at 400. If the con is flying straight and level i'm happy to take a shot at 600, maybe even 800 yards. If a con is level but performing lots of little jinks or mashing the stick around (i.e when dead 6 on a spit16 or a 190) i'll usually close to 200 yards unless i feel like wasting a lot of ammo or if i don't have the luxury of time to close the gap.
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Well, AKAK doesn't have to concern himself with convergence issues in his 38. Unless chasing though(or buffs), I speculate he doesn't fire often beyond 600.
Yep, I rarely take shots 600yds or beyond unless I know I have a high probability shot on the target.
ack-ack
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I usually aim for the wing root.
What I hit is a different kettle of fish unfortunately. :(
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i aim for the red planes, and if i see rounds hit anywhere on it, i'm happy
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I find deflection shots easier than a 6 shot, simply because they're so much more predictable. The guy is in a turn and you know where he's going. A shot from behind is unpredictable, especially so in AH where players don't feel the effects of G forces, stick stirring is the norm.
With deflection shots you have a larger target to fire at as opposed to a dead 6 shot, that's why it seems easier to hit with those shots. It's recommended that if you make a dead 6 attack to come at a slight angle to the target, this way you have more of an area to fire at.
ack-ack
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With deflection shots you have a larger target to fire at as opposed to a dead 6 shot, that's why it seems easier to hit with those shots. It's recommended that if you make a dead 6 attack to come at a slight angle to the target, this way you have more of an area to fire at.
Also, if you think about it, a great many deflection/crossing shots happen from pretty close range (such as in a scissor fight). On the other side of the coin, a lot of people have a tendancy to fire from a range farther then what is ideal when they get onto the six of an opponent.
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another factor with dead six shots is they are the only type of shot that requires you to hold the pipper directly on the target. Every other type of shot you are shooting ahead to where the target will be. With the standard dead six shot at any convergence you still need to be holding the dot directly on the target, or slightly above beyond 600. At 1000yrds a dead six shot with 50cals requires a very small ammount of elevation compared to the lead you put on for a 300 yrds deflection.True dead six shots dont need lead.