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General Forums => Axis vs Allies => Topic started by: captain1ma on November 23, 2008, 09:23:20 PM
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it is with great sadness, that I must announce the loss of Storch and Ente. We, in JG54, are suffering a terrible loss. They were both assets and commerades to us. they were able to inspire and to teach. Storch, although dislike by the thin-skinned players, was a great player. he was always ready to help someone learn or give a pointer or 2. sometimes it was unwanted attention by a certain few players, but he always meant well!. He never cared what team or side you played on, he always enjoyed helping and teaching.
He was one of the most fun people I've ever met in the game and was always good for a laugh or 2. It's a sad day in the game to lose a veteran player like him.
Ente did not play very often but was also just like his dad. willing to help when he could and always to offer advice.
Salutes to Storch :salute and to Ente :salute
You will both be missed! :cry
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You love muffin, I thought someone was dead.
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Besides, it should be a celebration! It isn't every day you get the dump Storch on some other poor squadron. :D
(apologies to Ente, who my post is not aimed at, I don't even know the gentleman)
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:salute, Tis a rueful day where iron no longer sharpens iron.
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You love muffin, I thought someone was dead.
no joke
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It's a sad day in the game to lose a veteran player like him.
So...where'd he go?
- oldman
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So...where'd he go?
- oldman
Apparently they booted him and ente from the game.
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uh oh! game "modification" or behavior?
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uh oh! game "modification" or behavior?
Don't think storch is smart enough for game modification. :P
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Bummer... i know storch and i have a history at mouthing off (and to a lesser, somewhat, degree jg54 in general - we have a history going waaaaaaay back when they were doing the very things they whine about now. :aok )... but we generally kept it game-related and clean.
I do understand storch (and to a lesser degree, "teh tardwhackers/class acts"??) have their own little MW history, which i can't really comment on, not flying MW.
Then I guess you have the BBS histronics that seemed to lead to PNG posting status...
well, storch is an alledged adult :noid and even tho' he's neither 100% innocent or guilty of actions that resulted in this, he *is* 100% responsible for what *he* does/did, or more likely says/said. No one ever forces us to hit "enter."
meh... i can count on 1 hand (at most) the times i've ever had to deal with HTC in terms of in-game or bbs behavior. I generally have kept my BBS persona much more low-key and more reflective of myself than my in-game persona.
anyway, if storch desires and manages to come back, i hope he'll take away the lesson he might've learned... or not. YMMV.
Can't speak for ente as i don't really know/remember him.
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my dad got booted for posting stuff to hvyguns6 who then sent it to htc. he's ok with it he was about to quit anyway. I hardly ever played because it really isn't fun chasing people three sectors in to their ack.
I got booted for no reason at all but that's ok I don't really like the game.
so long I won't be posting any more and neither will my dad.
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my dad got booted for posting stuff to hvyguns6 who then sent it to htc. he's ok with it he was about to quit anyway. I hardly ever played because it really isn't fun chasing people three sectors in to their ack.
I got booted for no reason at all but that's ok I don't really like the game.
so long I won't be posting any more and neither will my dad.
uhh and you and your dad would be?
:noid
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Apparently they booted him and ente from the game.
Why??
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my dad got booted for posting stuff to hvyguns6 who then sent it to htc. he's ok with it he was about to quit anyway. I hardly ever played because it really isn't fun chasing people three sectors in to their ack.
I got booted for no reason at all but that's ok I don't really like the game.
so long I won't be posting any more and neither will my dad.
Oops sorry nevermind.
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Apparently they booted him and ente from the game.
Uh...Wow
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I got booted for no reason at all but that's ok I don't really like the game.
is easily understandable if you both reside in the same house/same IP destination logging in to the game
as for the initial post, same thoughts as Slash
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guess I'll have to modify their squad photo:
(http://www.pogbird.com/X45/jg54squad.jpg)
how big an immature idiot do you have to be to get booted from a pay on line game?
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Karma.................. :rock
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Where did you find Metal? Haven't seen that canook in ages!
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how big an immature idiot do you have to be to get booted from a pay on line game?
More like how big a of vagina do you have to be to cry so much to staff to get someone booted for trash talking over the internet.
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More like how big a of vagina do you have to be to cry so much to staff to get someone booted for trash talking over the internet.
dunno but I'd guess as big as the one that made the noise in the 1st place? Is that why he was booted?
never understood trash talking - in RL or the fantasy world called the internet - seems like a waste of air and effort..
it is a curse of the internet for sure as it gives too many a platform they can hide behind & spew retarded remarks while acting out some childhood frustration . For an adult to partake in such behavoir in a public forum that has paying players from 8 to 80 years old is unexplainable imo.
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ahh vox populi...
without knowing the details, nor caring to, all i can say it must've been enough for HTC to come to that conclusion.
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STORCH Gone!!! Say it ain't so! are we never to hear his gentle words again? his kindness, his outgoing and always uplifting words of encouragement, Oh the huminanty, (sniff sniff) how will we ever go on ? Please excuse me Gentlemen I need to go lie down and compose myself, this is more than I can bear. ... sob sob.
Maj OldBull
XO Avengers
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What's done is done. No need to rub it in and create more animosity between people in his squad. Besides, many of you have got your wish. Now lets see how great everything is going to be in the AvA now that the "scourge" of the arenas is gone.
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I dont know all the details about Storch getting booted, but I have a pretty good idea how it went down. If Im correct, then certian other players have no business being here either. If they booted everyone in this game for vocally interjecting thier opinion, this game would be long gone.
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If they booted everyone in this game for vocally interjecting thier opinion, this game would be long gone.
Amen to that brother.
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I do know the details and I don't like tattle-tales! My friends shall be avenged! :)
"The child who tattletales is usually seeking attention, this child needs to know the difference between appropriate 'telling on somebody' and when it isn't appropriate to tell. Tattletales do so as it gives them a sense of power. Try and determine what the child's needs are that makes him/her want to seek attention in this fashion. Usually a tattletale has a self-esteem issue, when they tattle, somebody listens and they are gaining the attention they seek which often makes them feel important. "
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Now lets see how great everything is going to be in the AvA now that the "scourge" of the arenas is gone.
An excellent point. I hope to see the prompt return of all the people who left because of the trash talking.
- oldman
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yes, lets see how much of a "scourge" they really were!
based on this we should soon have 50 people in there on a regular basis. :)
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Well, if you have the scoop, spill the beans because i have a feeling this is more MW than AvA related.. i coud be wrong, or perhaps it's a combo of both. did storch get the boot, or did he get slapped with a temp-ban but decided to toss it all in? makes a difference.
Before you guys go all defensive for storch, bear in mind his past history with HTC (he had been (perma?)banned from the Forums, and has had continual run ins (again mostly MW per my understanding) with the players. I don't know how far past the line storch had gone, but it has to be beyond "simple smack" I would think.
If it's a simple issue of vox populi (mob rule) then i disagree and sympathize, but again storch has played the game long enough to know where the boundries are.
keep it clean and game-related and you should be okay. get vulgar or too personal, then you leave yourself open to things like this. Also avoid PM smack because that can be actioned as "harrassment," especially if you're skirting the aforementioned "lines," despite the ability to squelch.
but overall, i do agree there are way too many milquetoasted castrati in this game. they need to butch up.
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An excellent point. I hope to see the prompt return of all the people who left because of the trash talking.
Let me start off with, I have no idea what happened, nor do I care to know. By now it's mired in opinion and hearsay.
Unfortunately we in the AvA have a history of eating our own. I think the membership will remain the same. It's sad because through the years it seems the ones who cause the most fuss are the ones who are involved the least. They come into the AvA, stir the pot, then disappear...
Until we find a way to resolve our issues 'man to man' we'll continue to limp along as the least populated arena. The AvA is a trial by fire. The community is smaller, the sides are historical, as are the matchups, which often lead to one side feeling the other side has an advantage (which is occasionally true). This leads to aggressive tactics, to smack, to bruised egos, to admin involvement.
To me, getting someone ejected from the game is a failure of the community...it should have been resolved some other way. Despite all the "issues" we may have with one another, we share a love of history and air combat. And because of a failure of the community, we are now one less. So I see little reason to gloat.
Trust me, there's some screen ID's that I despise, but...I'd rather they be here flying than ejected from the game. Iron sharpens iron, so one man should sharpen another.
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I hope to see Storch and Ente back some day.
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To me, getting someone ejected from the game is a failure of the community...it should have been resolved some other way. Despite all the "issues" we may have with one another, we share a love of history and air combat. And because of a failure of the community, we are now one less. So I see little reason to gloat.
Oh get a freakin grip will you? Quit making Storch out to be some victim or martyr. If Storch got banned it was his fault and his fault only. It's between him and HTC. He knew where the lines were he's been banned before. It's too bad he's banned, but it's also his fault. Failure of community? What a crock. Jaeger going to avenge him?? A bigger crock.
His version of the story is available on another BBS. Maybe you should read his own words and his opinion of this community before you continue with this tear laced ankle humping wake you're having. And you guys call other people geldings and girlie men pftt. That's a hoot. :lol
You can find his words at http://www.flamewarriors.net/forum/index.php
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Edit: No point in getting myself sucked in. Carry on.
Edit 2: I invite everyone to take a break from the forums for a while. You come back after 3 or 4 months and see how silly all this constant bickering is...downright embarrassing really.
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Thank you dear shifty for reminding me why I left the forums for so long.
You don't want to fix things, you want a witch hunt.
Yes, carry on, burn them all!
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I'll try again in a few months.
Where did I say or imply I wanted a witch hunt? :lol
Do you even know what you're trying to say with this statement?
If anybody is trying to brew up a witch hunt it's you and Jaeger stiring the pot saying what has happened is the fault of the community or the guy that turned him in or individuals from the past who no longer fly in the AVA.
His actions are what got him where he is. You can like it or dislike it, but you cannot blame others for his behavior and decisions.
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lol Shifty
Have a Happy Thanksgiving!
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Yea with storch gone I bet there will be more people in the AvA then all the other arenas combined. :rolleyes:
Get real the ONLY reason any of those people left is because they kept getting their tulips hand to them. There are no two week noobs for them to shoot down in the AvA so they went back to the MAs.
Iv been flying in the MW lately and there are a few tards in there they cry all day long, mainly ghost66 and biggamer. You know what I do when they start crying? I use this little know thing called SQUELCH and keep killing them until they get mad enough to leave. Those that say they left because of the trash talk are really saying " I cant hold my own so Ill just find an excuse so that it doesn't look like I'm a wuss".
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Bummer... i know storch and i have a history at mouthing off (and to a lesser, somewhat, degree jg54 in general - we have a history going waaaaaaay back when they were doing the very things they whine about now. :aok )... but we generally kept it game-related and clean.
I do understand storch (and to a lesser degree, "teh tardwhackers/class acts"??) have their own little MW history, which i can't really comment on, not flying MW.
Then I guess you have the BBS histronics that seemed to lead to PNG posting status...
well, storch is an alledged adult :noid and even tho' he's neither 100% innocent or guilty of actions that resulted in this, he *is* 100% responsible for what *he* does/did, or more likely says/said. No one ever forces us to hit "enter."
meh... i can count on 1 hand (at most) the times i've ever had to deal with HTC in terms of in-game or bbs behavior. I generally have kept my BBS persona much more low-key and more reflective of myself than my in-game persona.
anyway, if storch desires and manages to come back, i hope he'll take away the lesson he might've learned... or not. YMMV.
Can't speak for ente as i don't really know/remember him.
shane there is a major difference in your trash talking and what some of the so called trash talking that gos on in game with these guys.
Yours generally has a large element of truth & you can usually back it up with good gameplay. Always have and will chuckle when someone trash talks back to you, i know there is a grin on your puss waiting to meet up again with the mouth :)
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lol Shifty
Have a Happy Thanksgiving!
You do the same.
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To summarize, Storch did nothing, HT baned him and his shade for no reason, and he is a big loss to the community.
BAaaaahahahahahahaha :aok
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Storch was banned because HE wanted to be banned. If you think differently then ask him yourself... I did.
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Storch is one of the biggest cork suckers in the game, it just wont be the same without him. :(
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Storch was banned because HE wanted to be banned. If you think differently then ask him yourself... I did.
Well so much for setting the bar high, I bet I could do it in a day :rofl
shamus
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To summarize, Storch did nothing, HT baned him and his shade for no reason, and he is a big loss to the community.
BAaaaahahahahahahaha :aok
It was his son, not a shade fwiw.
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No ente was his sons account not his shade.
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I had Lemon Pepper Stork for dinner.
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So that's what they serve in state prisons these days? :P
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Yeah, but with enough Tabasco its tasty. :D
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You love muffin, I thought someone was dead.
same
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More like how big a of vagina do you have to be to cry so much to staff to get someone booted for trash talking over the internet.
storch is the only one to blame for his dismissal. No one forced him to type the stuff he did, if anyone needed a thicker skin it was storch.
ack-ack
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What's done is done. No need to rub it in and create more animosity between people in his squad. Besides, many of you have got your wish. Now lets see how great everything is going to be in the AvA now that the "scourge" of the arenas is gone.
it's never good when anyone gets banned. i didn't like him ingame either, but that doesn't mean i'd want him banned. i simply did one of two things. A) ignore him, or B) try to stir the kettle a bit to get him all wound up......but nver with any intentions of getting the guy booted. after all, what would he really do to me? shoot down my cartoon airplane?
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Yea with storch gone I bet there will be more people in the AvA then all the other arenas combined. :rolleyes:
Get real the ONLY reason any of those people left is because they kept getting their tulips hand to them. There are no two week noobs for them to shoot down in the AvA so they went back to the MAs.
Iv been flying in the MW lately and there are a few tards in there they cry all day long, mainly ghost66 and biggamer. You know what I do when they start crying? I use this little know thing called SQUELCH and keep killing them until they get mad enough to leave. Those that say they left because of the trash talk are really saying " I cant hold my own so Ill just find an excuse so that it doesn't look like I'm a wuss".
but here's the key........when he kiloled them, did he gloat, wait for em to come back, or offer em advice?
i did much more often than not, and as of late, the guys that've kilt me, have also been offering good advice on where i went wrong....and it is very helpful really.
not tryin to put anyone down(although storch already doean't like me), but just asking a question.
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but here's the key........when he kiloled them, did he gloat, wait for em to come back, or offer em advice?
i did much more often than not, and as of late, the guys that've kilt me, have also been offering good advice on where i went wrong....and it is very helpful really.
not tryin to put anyone down(although storch already doean't like me), but just asking a question.
Iv seen storch help people out many times, but only to those that had the testicles to fight and not run back to a horde or ack. Iv seen him take people to the TA and DA and teach them. Hell when I was a noob he and I would go to the DA and he would help my little squeaker bellybutton out. Him and N7 were the main people that I would watch and learn from and when they could they would take me in the TA/DA and teach me. Again if you ran away from fights you would hear it from him but if you wanted to fight and learn what you did right or wrong he was more then willing to show you.
Most people never try to get to know storch they just see him on 200 and think he's an ass. Hes the guy that would always bring up the morale with his off tone singing on squad channel and when he was making fun of people on 200 he would be laughing on VOX when they would get mad. I heard HT once say the goal in this game is for you to piss the other guy off and I doubt that anyone would disagree that he did that when he was one.
Even now squad vox sounds empty without him I for one am going to miss him and things just aren't going to be the same, and its ganna be less fun with him on.
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(http://www.sangrea.net/free-cartoons/ghost_rest-in-peace.jpg)
Ok now... let it rest. What's done is done, carry on.
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It's interesting how many people post in the AvA forum, comment on it's goings on, yet never actually fly in the AvA...
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i used to fly in the Combat theatre back in the day with jamusta...before most of you Jg54 even joined probably. VW, Tbar, TK, Storch, Tankman and N7 were all there, and a couple more. People like slash, duke and oldman would be in every night. Back in the days when people would always fly under 8k and no one gave a stuff about anything but having a laugh and fighting the right way. way, way before the two major allied and axis squadrons took root and it became the AvA we know today.
I would fly there more if i thought i would find some worth action, but i still got a right to voice my opinion on CT topics. :aok
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For all the gripes I hear about storch, I have never gotten a film from anyone that shows him, or anyone else for that matter, acting badly in the game. If you do not have time to film it, then you keep your mouth off the bulletin board about it. I have had it with those who constantly complain about members of another squad only to never, and I mean never, have one iota of proof they have acted badly.
Skuzzy wrote that... I suppose he finally got the film he needed.
Good riddance.
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I'm sure he was great in your squad. You all have high opinions. Too bad he could not extend that to the whole community. It would have been a better place.
Venom
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It's interesting how many people post in the AvA forum, comment on it's goings on, yet never actually fly in the AvA...
i never flew in AvA, but i don't think this arose from goings on in there. therefore, it's not about the Ava, but rather about the person.
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Just interesting how people enjoy coming here to throw poo at one another, yet want to do nothing to help the arena...
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Just interesting how people enjoy coming here to throw poo at one another, yet want to do nothing to help the arena...
i understand that......haven't flung any poo yet though. i may try to pop in, to see what it's like. my only problem is time. i'm lucky to manage more than 15 hours a month. i don't think i even made that this month.
friggin HATE when r/l interfers with my fun!! :D
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Just interesting how people enjoy coming here to throw poo at one another, yet want to do nothing to help the arena...
Quite a few people have gone out of their way to help this arena for years. Long before you came along. Every experiment has been met with disdain by some regulars. Saying things like the AVA is ruined now, it's full of insert derogatory name <here>. It needs to go back to the old days, and all the new people need to go back to the MA. Well the new people went back to the MA. A lot of us old timers went there as well. So the guys that wanted their pure 1v1 dogfighting arena have it now. Still these same people want to complain because nobody flies there. This last episode ruined it for me. After years of trying to drum up support and as well as support other peoples ideas to help the arena and have the efforts met with the same old crap time after time I'm sick of trying.
It's not just the dogfighters either, there was just as bad of attitude by some of the war fighters who thought it was manly to bang away capturing bases with 4 to 1 odds. Then would crow about it on the boards. The closesest we got to what the arena could be was the very last experiment. The campaign series ran by TheBug. Even that went stale because neither side can stomach a few days not having the best plane. Instead of trying to get immersed in the history trying to be represented... Everybody wants to complain about what the other side is flying. Even one staff member takes it upon himself to question people when he See's them in a spit... No it wasn't me he questioned, it wasn't even a squadmate of mine he questioned. If the plane is in the setup it's no body's business what you fly. After all the constant crap, complaints and crying, the fact a staff member thought he needed to question another player's choice of aircraft was pretty much the last straw for me.
If you really want to help the arena Republic. You can start by accepting the fact the arena is open to everyone. Therefore their opinion on this BBS is just as valid as anybody Else's. The AVA is not an elite arena it never has been. It's not populated by elite fighter pilots. It's populated by people playing a game just like all the other arenas. Some people just get a little caught up and apply too much machismo to manipulating pixels.
Only here occasionally we've been allowed some say so. Theres no need that it be a dogfight only arena anymore than there's a need that it be a milkrunning arena. This arena has potential to be the funnest most immersive arena in creating actual WWII matchups. However for one reason or another staff and players cannot make it work. That reason usually boils down to animosity. You really want to help? Bury the animosity. If a person isn't flying here it doesn't mean he won't in the future. So treat people on the boards as potential AVA regulars. If the AVA and the people that fly there would get their crap together it could be the best arena in AH.
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i used to fly in the Combat theatre back in the day with jamusta...before most of you Jg54 even joined probably. VW, Tbar, TK, Storch, Tankman and N7 were all there, and a couple more. People like slash, duke and oldman would be in every night. Back in the days when people would always fly under 8k and no one gave a stuff about anything but having a laugh and fighting the right way. way, way before the two major allied and axis squadrons took root and it became the AvA we know today.
I would fly there more if i thought i would find some worth action, but i still got a right to voice my opinion on CT topics. :aok
Why don't you come back? that's how it is now :aok
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well said shifty, right with you on that one.
Buster, i do log in occasionaly, most recently i had some great fights and some good winging up with my friend Venom. that was alot of fun when there was 5 players per side just dogfighting. Honestly, I do log into the AvA every now and then to see if i can find friends to fly with or even just a good scrap with a random....it just hardly ever happens, so i log and go to the DA.
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Oh well, you would hve enjoyed last night, it was a blast
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Quite a few people have gone out of their way to help this arena for years. Long before you came along. Every experiment has been met with disdain by some regulars. Saying things like the AVA is ruined now, it's full of insert derogatory name <here>. It needs to go back to the old days, and all the new people need to go back to the MA. Well the new people went back to the MA. A lot of us old timers went there as well. So the guys that wanted their pure 1v1 dogfighting arena have it now. Still these same people want to complain because nobody flies there. This last episode ruined it for me. After years of trying to drum up support and as well as support other peoples ideas to help the arena and have the efforts met with the same old crap time after time I'm sick of trying.
It's not just the dogfighters either, there was just as bad of attitude by some of the war fighters who thought it was manly to bang away capturing bases with 4 to 1 odds. Then would crow about it on the boards. The closesest we got to what the arena could be was the very last experiment. The campaign series ran by TheBug. Even that went stale because neither side can stomach a few days not having the best plane. Instead of trying to get immersed in the history trying to be represented... Everybody wants to complain about what the other side is flying. Even one staff member takes it upon himself to question people when he See's them in a spit... No it wasn't me he questioned, it wasn't even a squadmate of mine he questioned. If the plane is in the setup it's no body's business what you fly. After all the constant crap, complaints and crying, the fact a staff member thought he needed to question another player's choice of aircraft was pretty much the last straw for me.
If you really want to help the arena Republic. You can start by accepting the fact the arena is open to everyone. Therefore their opinion on this BBS is just as valid as anybody Else's. The AVA is not an elite arena it never has been. It's not populated by elite fighter pilots. It's populated by people playing a game just like all the other arenas. Some people just get a little caught up and apply too much machismo to manipulating pixels.
Only here occasionally we've been allowed some say so. Theres no need that it be a dogfight only arena anymore than there's a need that it be a milkrunning arena. This arena has potential to be the funnest most immersive arena in creating actual WWII matchups. However for one reason or another staff and players cannot make it work. That reason usually boils down to animosity. You really want to help? Bury the animosity. If a person isn't flying here it doesn't mean he won't in the future. So treat people on the boards as potential AVA regulars. If the AVA and the people that fly there would get their crap together it could be the best arena in AH.
Shifty, old dude, all of the problems you describe exist - to a much greater extent, in fact - in each of the MA arenas. That's no excuse to duplicate them in AvA, of course, but I'm not sure it addresses the root cause of our problems. How many times have we heard something like "Hey, I can get this [abuse] [ackrunning] [ganging] [whatever] in the MA! See ya!" So: why do they go to the MAs, if by their own assessment they get the same irritants there?
- oldman
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Shifty, old dude, all of the problems you describe exist - to a much greater extent, in fact - in each of the MA arenas. That's no excuse to duplicate them in AvA, of course, but I'm not sure it addresses the root cause of our problems. How many times have we heard something like "Hey, I can get this [abuse] [ackrunning] [ganging] [whatever] in the MA! See ya!" So: why do they go to the MAs, if by their own assessment they get the same irritants there?
- oldman
Oldman, you're correct there is the same stuff going on in the MA's. However with the limited numbers of players in the AVA and the limited battle area of the AVA when the crap starts... That's all you have is crap. It turns the whole atmosphere of the arena into crap. To be honest I've had it aimed directly at me very few times. When aimed at me it rarely bothers me. It irrates me the most when it's aimed at new visitors or newer players. It drives away any potential new blood and it settles or proves nothing other than confirming people's opinion the AVA is full of social retards. At least in the LWAs it gets drowned out and doesn't affect the mood of the whole arena.
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Oldman, you're correct there is the same stuff going on in the MA's. However with the limited numbers of players in the AVA and the limited battle area of the AVA when the crap starts... That's all you have is crap. It turns the whole atmosphere of the arena into crap. To be honest I've had it aimed directly at me very few times. When aimed at me it rarely bothers me. It irrates me the most when it's aimed at new visitors or newer players. It drives away any potential new blood and it settles or proves nothing other than confirming people's opinion the AVA is full of social retards. At least in the LWAs it gets drowned out and doesn't affect the mood of the whole arena.
That's a good point. In the AvA one argument effects the whole community because the fights are so intimate, you see the person over and over again and problems start to fester and get worse.
People complain about the AvA being like a mini-MA. The truth is, everytime i've logged into the AvA, I've NEVER really had a bad experience. Besides one person, whom I won't mention, everyone is fair, and compliments eachother on nice kills, shots, etc.
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So: why do they go to the MAs, if by their own assessment they get the same irritants there?
- oldman
Because when you get irritated in the MAs, you can simply move to a different section in the map and try again. Due to the limited numbers and even the design of some of the maps, that just isn't the case in the AvA.
That is the challenge. More numbers should, in theory, help the arena by providing alternatives to the section where <insert favorite dweeb behavior here> is happening. But the only way more numbers happen is if someone comes in and doesn't experience <insert favorite dweeb behavior here> and decides it is worth coming back. This is difficult considering the small numbers concentrate the dweebyness all in one area for all to see. It is a bit of a chicken and egg scenario.
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Because when you get irritated in the MAs, you can simply move to a different section in the map and try again. Due to the limited numbers and even the design of some of the maps, that just isn't the case in the AvA.
That is the challenge. More numbers should, in theory, help the arena by providing alternatives to the section where <insert favorite dweeb behavior here> is happening. But the only way more numbers happen is if someone comes in and doesn't experience <insert favorite dweeb behavior here> and decides it is worth coming back. This is difficult considering the small numbers concentrate the dweebyness all in one area for all to see. It is a bit of a chicken and egg scenario.
exactly
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People that cry about trashtalk are the idiots. If you cant use a simple command like .squelch then you don't have any place to cry about others talking crap.
The AvA is mainly made up of above average pilots that know what they are doing in their plane. The MA is 98% average and below average that when put into a 1v1 can only HO or run. So when those people come into the AvA and get beat up then get harassed by how they ran to ack. Those are the types of people that only care about getting their name up in lights no matter how they get the kills to do it.
We don't need those types of people in the AvA. We need people that are willing to jump into a fight and don't care if they come out of it alive or not. We need people that aren't going to cry cheater when they get out flown.
If you cant use a dot command for what it was made for then you can go back to the MA and cry about it while flying your spit16 or La7. Trash talking always have and always will be a part of on-line gaming if you cant handle getting your bellybutton kicked then getting made fun of I suggest you go play monopoly or mine sweeper.
I'm done with this thread. What's done is done and crying about how it happened isn't going to change a dam thing. I hope Skuzzy comes in and locks it before it turns into a poo flinging contest and more people get in trouble.
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People that cry about trashtalk are the idiots. If you cant use a simple command like .squelch then you don't have any place to cry about others talking crap.
The AvA is mainly made up of above average pilots that know what they are doing in their plane. The MA is 98% average and below average that when put into a 1v1 can only HO or run. So when those people come into the AvA and get beat up then get harassed by how they ran to ack. Those are the types of people that only care about getting their name up in lights no matter how they get the kills to do it.
We don't need those types of people in the AvA. We need people that are willing to jump into a fight and don't care if they come out of it alive or not. We need people that aren't going to cry cheater when they get out flown. when they do this, do you guys try to educate them? or just belittle them? maybe it's the only thing they know, if no one ever took the time to teach em.
If you cant use a dot command for what it was made for then you can go back to the MA and cry about it while flying your spit16 or La7. Trash talking always have and always will be a part of on-line gaming if you cant handle getting your bellybutton kicked then getting made fun of I suggest you go play monopoly or mine sweeper.being made fun of isn't the problem. some people get too personal with it, and push it waay too far. like i said beofre, i had my issues with him in ma, but i either swquelched him, or sparred with him on 200.
I'm done with this thread. What's done is done and crying about how it happened isn't going to change a dam thing. I hope Skuzzy comes in and locks it before it turns into a poo flinging contest and more people get in trouble.
now, in all honesty, i wish there were some way for him to come back. as i've said over and over, i had my issues with him, butcha know what? there is no reason he should've been gone. he annoys people. you annoy people. i annoy people.
i view it AS bad when we lose a good pile it in here, whether or not i like him.
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It's my opinion, that it will only take one or two more flushes of the AvA toilet for squads to start returning. Sorry, but nobody should have to squelch an entire squad to fly in here.
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I hope Skuzzy comes in and locks it
:rofl :rofl
Priceless
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It's my opinion, that it will only take one or two more flushes of the AvA toilet for squads to start returning. Sorry, but nobody should have to squelch an entire squad to fly in here.
And a whole squad shouldn't call another squad cheaters when they get killed.
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It's my opinion, that it will only take one or two more flushes of the AvA toilet for squads to start returning. Sorry, but nobody should have to squelch an entire squad to fly in here.
Problem is if a certain other squads started fly in the AVA . There would be just as many accusations of cheating by a certain squad.
:noid
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Problem is if a certain other squads started fly in the AVA . There would be just as many accusations of cheating by a certain squad.
:noid
Everyone knows you have to be good to get called a cheater so you cant be talking about yourself. :P
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Everyone knows you have to be good to get called a cheater so you cant be talking about yourself. :P
Tells you how sad they must be, for I have been accused. :aok
Edit: TK you have a PM.
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Tells you how sad they must be, for I have been accused. :aok
Whats this game coming to when someone like you can get called a cheater. :rofl
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Whats this game coming to when someone like you can get called a cheater. :rofl
Hehe all it takes now is a well timed barrel roll. :rofl
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Edit: Forum watching is bad for my blood pressure. <S> Shifty and everyone, see you in the arenas!
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Nevermind that the thread is totally off-topic.
1) Those who complain about other people complaining need to realize it's even more pointless than to complain in the first place. If you want your opinion heard, voice it in a positive manner. It is much easier to get through to a recipient that way, whoever it may be, whoever it may come from.
2) If you can't contribute to the ongoing discussion, refrain from posting. We don't need people who tell us how good they are or how hopelessly worthless some other player(s) are. It's irrelevant and only cause animosity. We are here to have fun, so have fun. It's your choice if you want to complain instead of having fun. So don't blame others for you not having fun. That doesn't mean you can't voice your opinion but the blame game is very juvenile and is old before you posted it.
I don't want to go into specific posts and criticize people, nothing good will come from it. So there are a couple very easy and basic rules to remember. It is also obvious to see for all who are doing what when they post. Some are trying to bridge the gaps while others create them. So it's glaringly obvious what the poster has for intentions regardless of what they say themselves.
One step in the process of growing up is to learn how to interact with any other individual(s) so that positive results can be achieved. If you can't make that step you have failed not only yourself, you have failed life.
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I can jump really, really high.
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I can jump really, really high.
Really?
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...Oh yea...I also like almonds better than walnuts in Rocky Road ice cream.
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You fly in the MA and consistently have people duking it out clogging up the 200 buffer. Eventually they will either DA or move to the next target that vulched, ho'ed, rammed, cheated, cable pulled, etc whilst engaged in the previous battle of wits. This by in large seems to be acceptable behavior as after all, we’re talking the MA
The regular AvA crowd however does not seem to tolerate that behavior very well. People start pulling the vultch, ho, etc. and the “regular” community comes down on them quickly. Most stay out for a 1V1 fight followed by a <S> win or loose. Most people are humbled when they make the transition to AvA and usually learn something from every fight.
It’s the ones that have it in for the arena that make me not want to fly there. They usually do not say a word on 200, They just fly the entire map porking radar to ruin the fight. Upon completion of this task, they return to the MA. Many wear their feelings on their cuff, and can blurt out things they probably should not have said. At least we know what their opinion is and can have debate. It’s the behind the scenes quiet radar porkers that we as a community should focus on and demand some sort of accountability.