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Title: Big monitors are tempting !!!!
Post by: Phil on November 24, 2008, 09:16:24 AM
Gents...
Posted this thread in TECH SUPPORT...
Maybe it should of been posted here !!!!

My hardware:
AMD Athlon 64 X 2 dual Core 3.2MHz
Western Digital 250GB Sata 16MB(X2)
Asus M2N-E AM2 PCIE MB
Atrix case
Echo Star 680-watt 24pin dual fan
Corsair ( 2 X 1GIG DDR2-667) Kit
Asus GeForce 7950 HDTV 512MB
Sound Blaster Audigy X-FI Platinum
View Sonic VX922 19in LCD

Software: Windows XP

Flying hardware: CH all around ! Stick/throttle and pedals
                       TrackIRII

Been looking at the new screens(22in - 24in).
Would I need to update the above specs if I'm to purchase a 24in monitor ?
New bigger video card maybe ?

Input please ...

Phil / OPP7755
Title: Re: Big monitors are tempting !!!!
Post by: TilDeath on November 24, 2008, 09:43:30 AM
Nope... microcenter has a sale going on 22" monitors from 99.00
Title: Re: Big monitors are tempting !!!!
Post by: Fulmar on November 24, 2008, 10:45:34 AM
If you get a constant 60 FPS on your 19", I don't think you'd need an upgrade for a 22".  I'd budget yourself on what you want to spend.  If you're the type of guy that can't tell quality differences between TV's and monitors or don't care too much. Save your money and get a cheapy.  Personally, I'm strict on color/contract etc because I'm a designer.  So I stick with the higher end stuff $350+.
Title: Re: Big monitors are tempting !!!!
Post by: RumbleB on November 24, 2008, 01:13:54 PM
Stick to a 22" because the native res will be 1680x1050 and that's not too high. 24" and we're getting into 1920x1200 and anything other than native looks blurry. 22" are really good value nowadays so you should look into buying one. Also you get the extra field of view now that 16:10 mode is fixed in AH.
Title: Re: Big monitors are tempting !!!!
Post by: smokey23 on November 24, 2008, 07:38:21 PM
I have been told by many gamers to look for the monitor with the fastest response time my 22" has a 2ms response time and works real well.
Title: Re: Big monitors are tempting !!!!
Post by: TilDeath on November 24, 2008, 08:27:39 PM
I have been told by many gamers to look for the monitor with the fastest response time my 22" has a 2ms response time and works real well.
I think but not sure that once you get under 5ms you will not notice a difference unless your have Ninja insight and reflexes.
Title: Re: Big monitors are tempting !!!!
Post by: BaldEagl on November 25, 2008, 09:17:17 AM
Well definitely don't get anything over 5ms.  I've got a 22" LG widescreen @ 2ms and it's great.  It's hard to find 2ms response times once you exceed 22".  They seem to go to 5ms for the most part and drop the bigger you go.  22" widescreens appear to be the price/value sweet spot right now .
Title: Re: Big monitors are tempting !!!!
Post by: alskahawk on November 25, 2008, 10:16:52 AM
 I have a 19 inch (2ms), a 22 inch (2ms) and a 24 inch (5ms) all Samsung's. There is a noticeable difference between 2ms and 5ms. Now whether it helps or hurts my game playing is another topic. I was using a 8800GTS 320mb video card with the 24 inch monitor with no problems. However, upgrading to a better system with a bigger video card did a lot for the monitor performance. But the 2ms vs 5ms difference is enough to recommend a smaller monitor over a larger rate monitor.

 "Stick to a 22" because the native res will be 1680x1050 and that's not too high. 24" and we're getting into 1920x1200 and anything other than native looks blurry. 22" are really good value nowadays so you should look into buying one. Also you get the extra field of view now that 16:10 mode is fixed in AH."

 One big consideration here is there is probably a $100 or more price jump between a 22inch and a 24 inch. Particularly if you factor in 2ms vs 5ms. To me the 22 inch just seems better. Your 7950 VC may be adequate on a 24 inch monitor but a 22 inch would probably perform better for you.

"If you get a constant 60 FPS on your 19", I don't think you'd need an upgrade for a 22". "

 Big difference. Particularly if you go from a CRT to a flat panel. I play mostly offline games and web surfing on my 19 inch flat panel monitor. Its a good adequate monitor but the 22 inch flat panel is much better. I would say its a big difference.

 I would suggest you look at the Samsung 22 inch 2ms monitor or a similar model. $250 at Newegg.  There are plenty of cheaper models but not sure if they are worth it.
Title: Re: Big monitors are tempting !!!!
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on November 26, 2008, 02:23:15 PM
You can get 32" screens with native 1400x1050 etc resolutions.. just look for commercial displays etc.  :salute
Title: Re: Big monitors are tempting !!!!
Post by: jtdragon on November 29, 2008, 12:55:00 PM
have a gateway HD 22 inch that I m happy with.
Title: Re: Big monitors are tempting !!!!
Post by: RumbleB on December 02, 2008, 07:27:01 PM
there's a nice samsung 23" out now but it's a 16:9 monitor. still im gonna get one :P play xbox n watch hd movies on this thing. im sure ah would be fine anyway.
http://www.displayblog.com/2008/11/06/samsung-2342bwx-23-lcd-monitor-with-2048-x-1152/
Title: Re: Big monitors are tempting !!!!
Post by: gpwurzel on December 03, 2008, 04:30:24 AM
I use a 22" widescreen - cost me £180 or so - wouldnt go back to a crt monitor now - colours are pretty consistently displayed, nice and bright, works well with trackir etc etc etc.....just a shame I suck so much at flying/fighting.......... :D

Wurzel (will be getting a bigger monitor with next puter build once I've emigrated)
Title: Re: Big monitors are tempting !!!!
Post by: RumbleB on December 03, 2008, 09:49:33 AM
I use a 22" widescreen - cost me £180 or so - wouldnt go back to a crt monitor now - colours are pretty consistently displayed, nice and bright, works well with trackir etc etc etc.....just a shame I suck so much at flying/fighting.......... :D

Wurzel (will be getting a bigger monitor with next puter build once I've emigrated)


lol well they say you can't buy success but truth be told you can buy a lot of fun stuff to justify the way of the shopping cart.
Title: Re: Big monitors are tempting !!!!
Post by: Dadano on December 07, 2008, 03:46:47 AM
I just picked up a 24" and am real happy with it. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009154 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009154)
Title: Re: Big monitors are tempting !!!!
Post by: Wingnutt on December 07, 2008, 04:48:39 PM
have a gateway HD 22 inch that I m happy with.

+1

HD 24" here  love it.
Title: Re: Big monitors are tempting !!!!
Post by: morfiend on December 07, 2008, 05:10:23 PM
 Phil,I told ya the other night,go big or stay home.... 42in.. you've been a good boy all year so just ask Santa....Ohya make sure you hang a real big stocking... :aok
Title: Re: Big monitors are tempting !!!!
Post by: DAVENRINO on December 08, 2008, 03:02:00 PM
Phil,I told ya the other night,go big or stay home.... 42in.. you've been a good boy all year so just ask Santa....Ohya make sure you hang a real big stocking... :aok

Hmmmmmm....... 42" is BIG???????  I find 42" too big for up close like a desktop, but too small for a normal seating position 8' or over.  My 60" is great from my Lazyboy 8' away and the 50" was just ok at the same position.  Just my opinion based on actual experience as I still have 42", 50" and 60" displays. 
Title: Re: Big monitors are tempting !!!!
Post by: Wingnutt on December 08, 2008, 11:21:16 PM
(http://tvprogearservices.projectthunder.com//images/17-2998-Everything_ProductPrimaryImage.jpeg)    :aok

still have no idea what the price tag on one of these is.
Title: Re: Big monitors are tempting !!!!
Post by: Fulmar on December 08, 2008, 11:37:59 PM
(http://tvprogearservices.projectthunder.com//images/17-2998-Everything_ProductPrimaryImage.jpeg)    :aok

still have no idea what the price tag on one of these is.
It's worthless with that natural keyboard.
Title: Re: Big monitors are tempting !!!!
Post by: Wingnutt on December 08, 2008, 11:45:40 PM
It's worthless with that natural keyboard.

LOL, I wonder how it would be with TIR, when I upped to a 24" for a short while it actually gave me a little vertigo.
Title: Re: Big monitors are tempting !!!!
Post by: RipChord929 on December 10, 2008, 06:45:28 AM
I was using a 24in since last January.. Massive improvement
over the old CRT... Loved it!!! Don't wanna remember the old 17CRT..
Then a few months ago, my PC went a little soft on me.. So
I popped for a new Dell, tweaked just for gaming AH II..
2xSLI 9800 vid cards, blah blah... Wow, awesome on the 24in..
All the while, I wanted a BIG monitor... Talked about it with some
ppl on this forum, almost bought one... But decided to wait a bit...

Glad I did!!!  I saved my nickels, saved my dimes, bought me a 409, LOL!!!
Actually, a 47in LG Scarlet, 120hz, 4ms... Holy Smokes!!! It's Jawdropping!!
It upgrades the 1050 res, to 1080p automatically.. Motion is perfectly smooth,
no blurring, ghosting, or stuttering... The detail is INCREDIBLE!!! Zoomed up,
the gunsight is easily 2 1/2 feet wide... Just WOW!!!

For a couple of days, I was flying into my targets because the detail was
mesmerizing... Looking down the tailguns of a lifesize lancaster, watching
my shell impacts, plexiglass shattering, will pull you right in, LOL!!!

I used an DVI-D to HDMI cable to make the connection, and the PC and TV jived
perfectly.. Recognized each other instantly, like a match made in heaven...

Never understood how ppl could be so, "into" the game, that they would build
a simpit... Now I understand why!!! Think I'm headed in that direction too...
OMG, I'm turning into a game geek, LOL!!!

If you can afford it, go BIG!!!  It's super cool!!!

RC
Title: Re: Big monitors are tempting !!!!
Post by: Hoarach on December 10, 2008, 07:07:37 PM
There were 22"s being sold on either newegg.com or tigerdirect.com in the monthly email newsletters for $150.
Title: Re: Big monitors are tempting !!!!
Post by: Infidelz on December 14, 2008, 09:06:17 PM
http://www.plemix.com/dacc-panasonic-ae1000-projector (http://www.plemix.com/dacc-panasonic-ae1000-projector)

Been thinking about going HD, This looks like a pretty nice setup. In a year or sooner the price should be lower. Have to suffer with my 1280x1024 until it does. Before spending a lot on a TV I would look at a projector.

INFIDEL>
Title: Re: Big monitors are tempting !!!!
Post by: Fulmar on December 14, 2008, 09:12:44 PM
http://www.plemix.com/dacc-panasonic-ae1000-projector (http://www.plemix.com/dacc-panasonic-ae1000-projector)

Been thinking about going HD, This looks like a pretty nice setup. In a year or sooner the price should be lower. Have to suffer with my 1280x1024 until it does. Before spending a lot on a TV I would look at a projector.

INFIDEL>
If I was going to have a room dedicated in my house as a theater, I would go projector all the way.  But for every day TV watching, I'd stick with a TV.  Bulb life can vary in projectors (from 2000-5000 hours).  Plus projectors do not possess a very good color and brightness/contrast as compared to LCD and Plasmas.  And unless you're in a cave, in daylight projectors are going to suck as well.
Title: Re: Big monitors are tempting !!!!
Post by: Infidelz on December 14, 2008, 09:23:38 PM
I see what your are saying, but I will tell you that I am pretty happy in my cave in the basement.  :salute  I have used about half the bulb life in my current model and its been over a year. I have it set on 3000 hours. My only complaint is its not HD. The screen size is variable and well over 70 inches. I don't think I would ever go back.

Infidel>