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Title: Need ability to have icons of for friendly, off for enemy in SEA
Post by: Ripsnort on May 17, 2000, 07:48:00 AM
Currently, we  have  been using the SEA as an historic arena, but the icons are either off or on, any way we can adjust it so that icons may be on for a certain distance for friendlies, and off for enemy?

PLEEEEEASE!!!  I'll bet my house(mortgage) that it will bring you twice  the customers you already have within 2 months of implementation!

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Title: Need ability to have icons of for friendly, off for enemy in SEA
Post by: Westy on May 17, 2000, 08:40:00 AM
I second the request.

 I had alot of fun last night. Graphics have a long way to go for this to be more 'doable' for everyone but I was able to fly in the icon less environment very well. And enjoy it. The pucker factor is enourmous!
 The one draw back was after flying in a group of aircraft (enemy and friendly) to have to continue furballing with "unknowns" (turned out to be friendlies) because I could not tell till I got under 800 in range who they were.
 So yes. Icons for friendlies!!!!

  -Westy
Title: Need ability to have icons of for friendly, off for enemy in SEA
Post by: CavemanJ on May 17, 2000, 09:11:00 AM
yup, icons for friendlies would be great, but a much reduced range  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Title: Need ability to have icons of for friendly, off for enemy in SEA
Post by: Kieren on May 17, 2000, 09:11:00 AM
Cast my vote, "yes" for reduced icons.

3-5 for friends
2 for foes

No counter at all, names for friends, plane type for foes. It isn't a beginner's arena, so we can all deal with the range with experience.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Title: Need ability to have icons of for friendly, off for enemy in SEA
Post by: JimBear on May 17, 2000, 09:14:00 AM
But part of that pucker factor was looking behind ya and NOT knowing what was pulling in on your 6.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)    Maybe your right that we will need to wait until we all have GeForceIV cards and VR gogles until IDs are more life like. But me, I would be happy just to have the room set (for now) with no icons by default..... not that anyone would peek mind ya.
Title: Need ability to have icons of for friendly, off for enemy in SEA
Post by: Badger on May 17, 2000, 10:32:00 AM
Yup....hand raised...."me too"

whooppsss..nobody sees it....  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)


Title: Need ability to have icons of for friendly, off for enemy in SEA
Post by: Hazed on May 17, 2000, 12:13:00 PM
agreed less distance or friendlies only would suit me  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Title: Need ability to have icons of for friendly, off for enemy in SEA
Post by: LLv34_Camouflage on May 17, 2000, 06:15:00 PM
Tonight in the Main Arena:

Camo: HT, any chance to get "enemy icons off" to ALT-I?
Hitech: cc camo


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Camo

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[This message has been edited by LLv34_Camouflage (edited 05-17-2000).]
Title: Need ability to have icons of for friendly, off for enemy in SEA
Post by: snafu on May 19, 2000, 03:19:00 PM
Yup,
I'll go along with this one  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Posted a similar thread in "General discussion" relating to the MA, But makes far more sense in the SAE.

Get's my Vote

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Title: Need ability to have icons of for friendly, off for enemy in SEA
Post by: leonid on May 20, 2000, 01:20:00 AM
Just dueled Hristos w/o icons.  This has my vote - 100%!
Title: Need ability to have icons of for friendly, off for enemy in SEA
Post by: Voss on May 20, 2000, 07:00:00 AM
I don't understand. What's the point of turning off enemy icons if you know who the friendlies are? Still need mommy to hold your hand crossing the street? TURN THEM OFF!

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Title: Need ability to have icons of for friendly, off for enemy in SEA
Post by: LLv34_Camouflage on May 21, 2000, 08:06:00 PM
Voss:  In HA the friendly icons should be, imho, visible only at very short ranges - to help formation flying.  

And with "enemy icons off" in ALT-I I can practise enemy-spotting in the MA.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

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Title: Need ability to have icons of for friendly, off for enemy in SEA
Post by: Ripsnort on May 24, 2000, 08:58:00 AM
 
Quote
Originally posted by Voss:
I don't understand. What's the point of turning off enemy icons if you know who the friendlies are? Still need mommy to hold your hand crossing the street? TURN THEM OFF!

 [

So we can call the "Check 6 _add player name_"  while fighting...as it is now, you cannot call anyones six, since you know not of the enemy or the friendly icon.

Title: Need ability to have icons of for friendly, off for enemy in SEA
Post by: Citabria on May 24, 2000, 09:23:00 AM
"f4 break left you have a mig on your tail
!!!"
"F4 break left the mig is on your 6!"

no response from the f4 phantom

"F4 break left now you are going to die!"

at this point all 6 phantoms broke left in fear that the mig call was for them.

Icons are stupid if you want realism.


Title: Need ability to have icons of for friendly, off for enemy in SEA
Post by: daddog on May 25, 2000, 05:19:00 PM
Turn them off or reduce them please!    (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Title: Need ability to have icons of for friendly, off for enemy in SEA
Post by: +vadr+ on June 08, 2000, 08:54:00 AM
We've done some fairly extensive experimentation with this over in brand W.

We just finished an EMC with friendly-only icons (no range) at d5. It was well received.

The key is finding an icon setting that will let you maintain close formation with your buddies, but won't give an ID until you are committed to the attack.

No Icons at all has been proven over and over again to be unworkable. Looking at cons on a computer monitor is not the same thing as looking out the window in RL. This has nothing to do with quality of graphics, and everything to do with limitations of hardware.



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Title: Need ability to have icons of for friendly, off for enemy in SEA
Post by: flakbait on June 12, 2000, 05:23:00 AM
I remember a kill I had when we still had the BETA terrain. I was around F16, just putting around in a cloud having some fun. I spotted a guy flying in below me, with 5 other guys swarming in trying to get him. I forgot which key killed the icons, so I couldn't get them back on!! We were both in a 109-G10, and both in a shallow dive. I came in behind him, without him knowing, at 350+mph. I found the icon key about .0003 seconds before both my fingers clamped down and fired my guns. I blew his engine, elevator, flaps, fuel, oil, and left aileron with that blast. I wasn't any farther than 150 yards too. WHAT A THRILL!!!!!!!!!!

All the time in that dive I was wondering "Am I close enough to shoot yet???!?!". Sure enough, just before I hit the icons back on I fired and nearly killed him. He ended up hitting the ground; he never bailed. I turned around to get a bead in a N1K when I spotted, in white text, "WTG delta6!! I never even knew you were there!!". I was so distracted I flew right past the N1K without firing a shot.

I can tell you that it's easy to spot enemy planes from at least D5. All we need are dedicated countries so we don't kill friendlies. By the time I was around D4 I knew he was a 109-G10. One thing I agree on is friendly icons, you need them! I'd say around D7 distance they show up. This is close enough to give you a bit of a scare, but far enough that snipers won't have much chance of killing your wingman.


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