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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Spyder on December 05, 2008, 05:14:56 PM
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Were did this come from? and why is it here? it gets very annoying when you are in a really good fight and all of a sudden "do not move your controls rapidly" and you can't move, and then auger into the ground. What is the purpose of this? Is this HTCs doing or my computer? does anyone else get annoyed by this????questionmark???
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Anti stick stirring. If you were not stick stirring, check for stick spiking.
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Definitely would be nice if it was disabled under a certain amount of Gs or roll rate generated.
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I haven't had that message happen to me in quite a long time. Of course I try and stay away from on the deck furballs as much as I can.
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Were did this come from?
it came from people moving their controls too rapidly... (J/k)
It's here because of the way some sticks are calibrated, or how they arent calibrated yet. So instead of gently pulling left, and it rolls 10 times, it warns you that you need to either quit moving so fast, or readjust your stick calibration.
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Were did this come from? and why is it here? it gets very annoying when you are in a really good fight and all of a sudden "do not move your controls rapidly" and you can't move, and then auger into the ground. What is the purpose of this? Is this HTCs doing or my computer? does anyone else get annoyed by this????questionmark???
Do you use a mouse to play? Because I would get it almost every sortie before I started using my stick.
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Stop yanking. You'll go blind. :huh
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It was intentionally put in by HTC. It is there to stop the "stick stirrers". A stick stirrer is someone who when in trouble, twists, yanks, and swings his stick through all kinds of gyrations to make himself a hard target to hit. From the other guys point of view it looks like your plane is flip flopping all over the sky. The idea is if your doing maneuvers that would be impossible to do in a plane due to G forces, or just not possible mechanically, you can't do it in the game.
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:lol
You need the stick stir cheat code...... :noid
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It was intentionally put in by HTC. It is there to stop the "stick stirrers". A stick stirrer is someone who when in trouble, twists, yanks, and swings his stick through all kinds of gyrations to make himself a hard target to hit. From the other guys point of view it looks like your plane is flip flopping all over the sky. The idea is if your doing maneuvers that would be impossible to do in a plane due to G forces, or just not possible mechanically, you can't do it in the game.
It's not working. I see the flopping fish all the time in the MA.
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Were did this come from? and why is it here? it gets very annoying when you are in a really good fight and all of a sudden "do not move your controls rapidly" and you can't move, and then auger into the ground. What is the purpose of this? Is this HTCs doing or my computer? does anyone else get annoyed by this????questionmark???
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk121/TheAmish/sHa_lolabove.gif) get that often do ya?
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Mine does it all the time to me. Because my stick is wearing out finally, that old Logitech "peice of crap" 3D Pro lasted me a year and a half now. Too bad, was a good stick for me, thankfully though, I'm getting a brand new X52 for christmas. :D
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Do you use a mouse to play? Because I would get it almost every sortie before I started using my stick.
I use a mouse and I almost never get it. Mabey twice in last 4 months. Though when I was new I got this all the time.
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Mine does it all the time to me. Because my stick is wearing out finally, that old Logitech "peice of crap" 3D Pro lasted me a year and a half now. Too bad, was a good stick for me, thankfully though, I'm getting a brand new X52 for christmas. :D
Yeah those logicraps aren't bad for the money, but they wear out quickly.
They take a lot of heat on these forums, but it's a good starter stick.
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Definitely would be nice if it was disabled under a certain amount of Gs or roll rate generated.
Actually I don't see the purpose of it being on the roll and rudder axis for that matter.
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Actually I don't see the purpose of it being on the roll and rudder axis for that matter.
i got it on a CV in f4u4 after a rearm with like 8 kills :mad: went right over edge, lost my kills and perks :mad: and it was only my rudder i was using and got the message. there has to be some sort of way to moniter if its a stick stir, or absolute neccesity to do (like using rudder to not go off CV [neccesaity] flailing stick with enemy on you [stick stirring]). just my thoughts :salute
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Actually I don't see the purpose of it being on the roll and rudder axis for that matter.
I think you could probably make the warps that much wider with some rudder thrown into the stir, to hold the plane in odd angles. Maybe just a minor factor, but HT prolly figured it might as well be included..
The roll is definitely part of it in 190s and other fast rollers :)
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Actually I don't see the purpose of it being on the roll and rudder axis for that matter.
Agreed, I've gotten the control dampening when wagging my tail, which any aircraft can do. I found that if you just do it smoothly you don't get the warning, but it is still a nuisance.
How is it engaged (what's it's criteria)? I've had it do it to me when I was simply engaging someone, I snapped left in a roll, then saw he was going right, so snapped back right and I got dampened... I then progressed swiftly into the ground.
What they should really do is just dampen the controls a little bit, or enough to stop the stirring. The fact that if it happens I can't recover from a slight downward decent is really obnoxious.
Doesn't happen to me often, but it definitely happens more when I'm on someone's six than when someone is on mine...
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S950 - You can get out of those terminal dives with the trim, if your controls are locked by DMYCSR. DMYCSR is triggered by any inputs made too too quickly, like the name says :)
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S950 - You can get out of those terminal dives with the trim, if your controls are locked by DMYCSR. DMYCSR is triggered by any inputs made too too quickly, like the name says :)
Ah good idea, I'll have to remember that.
Right, but is there a certain number of quick movements that triggers it? I feel like going from left roll to right roll quickly shouldn't trigger it, but I've had it do it to me before.
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I think Ive triggered it with just two or three quick aileron moves.. Planes like the Ki84 actualy require you to react that fast if you have just a small lapse in attention and/or under/over-correct at first, when on the edge, so yeah it's a bugger :)
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The only times I have ever seen that warning is when my joystick is going on the fritz and needs replacing.
Had to get a new one yesterday.
ROX
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It's not working. I see the flopping fish all the time in the MA.
wat he said, had a breakdancing spit16 last night make me waste all my ammo.
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just wondering, but does your stick setting have any control over this? i use to get this fairly often, but then after i adjusted my deadband and dampening in the AH stick settings it seams to have stopped being an issue.
now this is just a question, not a statement of fact, so don't start insulting me if i am inncorrect and the change was just coincidental to me not realizing that i was just learning not to bounce the stick as fast as i once was.
FLOTSOM
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This does not happen to me very often, but when I am in the F4U4 it happens almost every time I take it up. Should I adjust the dampening settings on my stick?
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just wondering, but does your stick setting have any control over this? i use to get this fairly often, but then after i adjusted my deadband and dampening in the AH stick settings it seams to have stopped being an issue.
now this is just a question, not a statement of fact, so don't start insulting me if i am inncorrect and the change was just coincidental to me not realizing that i was just learning not to bounce the stick as fast as i once was.
FLOTSOM
If your stick is spiking near center... yes deadband will help.
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just wondering, but does your stick setting have any control over this? i use to get this fairly often, but then after i adjusted my deadband and dampening in the AH stick settings it seams to have stopped being an issue.
now this is just a question, not a statement of fact, so don't start insulting me if i am inncorrect and the change was just coincidental to me not realizing that i was just learning not to bounce the stick as fast as i once was.
FLOTSOM
It's never a surprise when I get it.. I actualy know a second or so before it triggers that Im gonna get it. The problem is that some planes require inputs that fast or large to catch them on the edge, with nowhere near enough actual movement to cause any warping. Most of the time, the plane is nearly dead in the water and tip-toeing on sharp but low speed departure.
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If you're getting the 'Do not move your controls rapidly" message, check to make sure that you have your stick properly calibrated in Windows and/or your stick is working properly (i.e. the pots are good, wireharness isn't shorted out, etc...). Those that usually receive this message are the ones that have stick that has some type of issue (i.e. stick not properly calibrated, potentiometer going dead, etc...).
For example, with a proper calibrated stick without any hardware issues, I took off last night and as hard and as fast as I could, I moved my stick to all of its extremes. The only result was a near uncontrollable spin but no message. Next, I switched out my controllers for ones that I knew had a two faulty potentiometers (both had deadspots near center) and repeated the same thing. As soon as I started to move my stick around rapidly to all of the extremes, I received the message "Do not move controls rapidly" message.
ack-ack
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If you're getting the 'Do not move your controls rapidly" message, check to make sure that you have your stick properly calibrated in Windows and/or your stick is working properly (i.e. the pots are good, wireharness isn't shorted out, etc...). Those that usually receive this message are the ones that have stick that has some type of issue (i.e. stick not properly calibrated, potentiometer going dead, etc...).
For example, with a proper calibrated stick without any hardware issues, I took off last night and as hard and as fast as I could, I moved my stick to all of its extremes. The only result was a near uncontrollable spin but no message. Next, I switched out my controllers for ones that I knew had a two faulty potentiometers (both had deadspots near center) and repeated the same thing. As soon as I started to move my stick around rapidly to all of the extremes, I received the message "Do not move controls rapidly" message.
ack-ack
Ack-ack i think this is because your joystick has good calibration, but the others do not, i have noticed that when you play with your deadband, it goes away, but hampers your planes manuverability.
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Were did this come from? and why is it here? it gets very annoying when you are in a really good fight and all of a sudden "do not move your controls rapidly" and you can't move, and then auger into the ground. What is the purpose of this? Is this HTCs doing or my computer? does anyone else get annoyed by this????questionmark???
OK...now everyones taken the piss there's 2 reason for getting that message.
1) As everyone has said you are indeed stirring the stick beyond reasonable methods for the game.
2) You stick could be wearing on one of it's axis or just about shot. If this is the case then even slight movements will cause the message. Nothing to do but chuck it out and get a new one. However, if it's just some light wear then there is a work around. This goes for all sticks, rudders, throttles and even mouse.
Go off line and take up one of your popular rides. You'll need to find out which axis is causing the problem. Move the stick up and down increasing the speed untill you get the message. Then do side to side. Again increase the speed untill u get the message. If it's just normal wear one axis will trigger the message sooner than the other. However, if your at a speed where it looks like your masterbating then you prolly are a stick stirrer. :rofl :rofl :rofl
Once you find the problem axis simple apply a little damping to that axis in preferences/ controller/ map controllers. Calibrate stick and repeat.
Good luck
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However, if your at a speed where it looks like your masterbating then you prolly are a stick stirrer. :rofl :rofl :rofl
Calibrate stick and repeat.
Good luck
ok i have now done this 4 times in a row!!!!
aside from my screen no longer being viewable this hasnt done anything to help my flight controler issue!!!!!!!
am i doing something wrong????
am i forgetting something??
:rofl :rofl :rofl
FLOTSOM
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ok i have now done this 4 times in a row!!!!
aside from my screen no longer being viewable this hasnt done anything to help my flight controler issue!!!!!!!
am i doing something wrong????
am i forgetting something??
:rofl :rofl :rofl
FLOTSOM
Oh god... My poor, poor innocent imagination! :cry
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Do you use a mouse to play? Because I would get it almost every sortie before I started using my stick.
I still use a mouse and it happens to me very frequently
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It really is annoying when it goes off when you're moving slow and trying to avoid a stall, it seems like its going off unfairly in that instance. But I've only had that happen to me about twice, ever.
Overall I wish it was set more aggressively, especially at airspeeds over 200 or so. Its stupid that when you get someone's near six you can't shoot them due to them moving randomly instead of the way an airplane would presumably actually behave.