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Title: Cold Blooded Murder
Post by: FiLtH on December 06, 2008, 02:59:57 AM
  The night started off great. ROC and I were each assigned a 262 to search for buffs, so the rest of the Nightmares could attack them with their 190s and 109s. We found them as they approached A168. Higher A20s and lower B26s. All escorted by a large force of P38s,47s and 51s.

  We attacked, I nibbled with 3-4 passes apparantly killing one before running out of ammo(didnt know it at the time) and having to rtb. Our squad were handled pretty rough by the allied fighters and many died trying to bring down the buffs. I was disappointed in my gunnery, but was glad I made a few passes and lived. Something I rarely do in a 262 attack on bombers.

   I re-armed and headed out again. I wanted to find the bombers that breezed through to our base and caused so much damage. Thinking that I was out of luck, that they were too far ahead and well on their way back to base, I chose 2 enemy bases where if I were a bomber would land.

   The first base I came up empty, eluding a couple of enemy fighters I headed to A70. As I looked down I saw 1 set of buffs on approach to land. I dove in. As Im nursing the speed to keep from compressing, I look to the far end of the base.

   JACKPOT!

  In a split second I try to decide to trun on the film. Everytime I do, on the first flight,it freezes for a couple of seconds. Diving in at 450 or so I was afraid I'd auger and wake up dead in a plywood bed six feet from the rest of my life (Anthrax :)

   I decide to risk it...it was just to cool not to try. What happened next was some of the most brutal destruction I have committed in the game to date.

 (http://FilthsHangar.homestead.com/2
62L.jpg)

 (http://FilthsHangar.homestead.com/2
62Q.jpg)
 
 (http://FilthsHangar.homestead.com/2
62R.jpg)
 
 (http://FilthsHangar.homestead.com/2
62S.jpg)

 (http://FilthsHangar.homestead.com/2
62T.jpg)
 
 (http://FilthsHangar.homestead.com/2
62U.jpg)

 (http://FilthsHangar.homestead.com/2
62V.jpg)

   I always dreamed of finding a squad on the re-arm and just hosing away. Its happened to us before and I had wished I was that pilot to be so lucky. Well tonight I was that pilot. It happened very quickly. The explosions and debris glorious to behold!

   I ran out of ammo after 3 passes, and managed to get home on one engine. What a night!


  The rest of the FSO was fun too with the capture and defense of 231. Great job in the design and running of this FSO. Thanks!
 
 

 
 

 

 
 


 

 
 
Title: Re: Cold Blooded Murder
Post by: shreck on December 06, 2008, 03:06:34 AM
VULCHTWIT!  :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Cold Blooded Murder
Post by: Kermit de frog on December 06, 2008, 04:58:36 AM
VULCHTWIT!  :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl


Jealous?
 :lol
Title: Re: Cold Blooded Murder
Post by: DrDea on December 06, 2008, 06:54:00 AM
Uber vulch lol   :rock
Title: Re: Cold Blooded Murder
Post by: mbailey on December 06, 2008, 07:14:44 AM
  The night started off great. ROC and I were each assigned a 262 to search for buffs, so the rest of the Nightmares could attack them with their 190s and 109s. We found them as they approached A168. Higher A20s and lower B26s. All escorted by a large force of P38s,47s and 51s.

  We attacked, I nibbled with 3-4 passes apparantly killing one before running out of ammo(didnt know it at the time) and having to rtb. Our squad were handled pretty rough by the allied fighters and many died trying to bring down the buffs. I was disappointed in my gunnery, but was glad I made a few passes and lived. Something I rarely do in a 262 attack on bombers.

   I re-armed and headed out again. I wanted to find the bombers that breezed through to our base and caused so much damage. Thinking that I was out of luck, that they were too far ahead and well on their way back to base, I chose 2 enemy bases where if I were a bomber would land.

   The first base I came up empty, eluding a couple of enemy fighters I headed to A70. As I looked down I saw 1 set of buffs on approach to land. I dove in. As Im nursing the speed to keep from compressing, I look to the far end of the base.

   JACKPOT!

  In a split second I try to decide to trun on the film. Everytime I do, on the first flight,it freezes for a couple of seconds. Diving in at 450 or so I was afraid I'd auger and wake up dead in a plywood bed six feet from the rest of my life (Anthrax :)

   I decide to risk it...it was just to cool not to try. What happened next was some of the most brutal destruction I have committed in the game to date.

 (http://FilthsHangar.homestead.com/262L.jpg)

 (http://FilthsHangar.homestead.com/262Q.jpg)
 
 (http://FilthsHangar.homestead.com/262R.jpg)
 
 (http://FilthsHangar.homestead.com/262S.jpg)

 (http://FilthsHangar.homestead.com/262T.jpg)
 
 (http://FilthsHangar.homestead.com/262U.jpg)

 (http://FilthsHangar.homestead.com/262V.jpg)

   I always dreamed of finding a squad on the re-arm and just hosing away. Its happened to us before and I had wished I was that pilot to be so lucky. Well tonight I was that pilot. It happened very quickly. The explosions and debris glorious to behold!

   I ran out of ammo after 3 passes, and managed to get home on one engine. What a night!


  The rest of the FSO was fun too with the capture and defense of 231. Great job in the design and running of this FSO. Thanks!
 
 

 
 

 

 
 


 

 
 




Great post Filth, the way you screamed in there and.........wait, i was one of those buffs on the re arm pad. ( if you look closely you can see me, im the one doing the Hindenburg impression with this look on my face  :O ) Oh the humanity. My poor cartoon pilots family and kids are now orphans. Big meanie  :D
<S> Glad to help make your dream come true   :salute
Title: Re: Cold Blooded Murder
Post by: Dantoo on December 06, 2008, 08:17:15 AM
Good one :aok

I normally studiously avoid rearming anywhere there is any likelihood of getting caught on the ground.  I was in one of those A20s that raided your base.  Today I took a shortcut and rearmed right at the front line against all common sense.  There I am heading back out to the runway, base starts to flash, I open the throttles hit wep and a 190 is diving in...........
a huge boom and he takes out the hangar nearby and flies off! 

Died stupidly a short while later hunting an Arado but raised more of a sweat when that base started to flash.
Title: Re: Cold Blooded Murder
Post by: CHAPPY on December 06, 2008, 08:30:04 AM
great photos :aok
Title: Re: Cold Blooded Murder
Post by: Race on December 06, 2008, 09:03:46 AM
Cant understand why people didnt tower out and save all those points.....

Having said that I am jealous...nice work!

Race
Title: Re: Cold Blooded Murder
Post by: Fugita on December 06, 2008, 09:10:06 AM
OMG Filth, that is too cool.  :rofl Looks like you got an early Christmas present with that one.
Title: Re: Cold Blooded Murder
Post by: 68falcon on December 06, 2008, 09:17:08 AM
Filth I am jealous  :aok
Title: Re: Cold Blooded Murder
Post by: 442w30 on December 06, 2008, 10:42:45 AM
Classic...    I saw all your kills in the log earlier this morning and thought that you had just had an extraordinary killing night. In some ways this is even better. lol
Title: Re: Cold Blooded Murder
Post by: Easyscor on December 06, 2008, 11:26:01 AM
 :rofl Nice Job. :aok
Title: Re: Cold Blooded Murder
Post by: FiLtH on December 06, 2008, 01:24:14 PM
Ya  I expected them to tower too...I assume they were re-arming for the second phase of the night and likely afk. To me it felt like Midway where the effective unstoppable bomber force was reduced to ruin in a matter of seconds.

  LOL mbailey great reply!
Title: Re: Cold Blooded Murder
Post by: Big Rat on December 06, 2008, 03:06:37 PM
Gee, talk about getting caught with your pants down :O.  I didn't notice while I was flying but I passed up an opportunity like that with about 8 ar-234's sitting on the runway in a nice row, saw it on the film afterwords :furious, well I did catch 2 of them that were already off the runway with my A-20.  Nice job :aok, looks like you took full advantage of that opportunity, unfortunately for our side.

 :salute
BigRat
Title: Re: Cold Blooded Murder
Post by: Newman5 on December 06, 2008, 07:11:06 PM
Ya  I expected them to tower too...I assume they were re-arming for the second phase of the night and likely afk. To me it felt like Midway where the effective unstoppable bomber force was reduced to ruin in a matter of seconds.

  LOL mbailey great reply!

A couple of us towered.  I think the majority of us were caught so off guard that we didnt know what to do, tower, man our guns, take off....Me?  I tried to man my guns only to find out that they wouldn't fire (I can only guess it was because we were on the ground).

I know there were a few of us who wanted to find out who the 262 was, some of us who weren't so happy.  But, hey, gotta give credit where credit is due, <S> FiLtH.
Title: Re: Cold Blooded Murder
Post by: RATTFINK on December 06, 2008, 07:14:02 PM
OH MY GOODNESS... YOU ROCK!!!!!!


I would be laughing my a off if I was in your shoes :D
Title: Re: Cold Blooded Murder
Post by: mbailey on December 06, 2008, 07:29:12 PM
OH MY GOODNESS... YOU ROCK!!!!!!


I would be laughing my a off if I was in your shoes :D

 It is rather funny. I think anyone given this opportunity would have done the exact same thing, myself included. Once in lifetime. Filth is a good guy, glad it was him and not some zipcode.
Title: Re: Cold Blooded Murder
Post by: daddog on December 07, 2008, 01:25:32 PM
That rocks!  :rock
Great pictures!  :aok

I think just about all of us dream of something like that happening to us. WTG Filth!

The 332nd Flying Mongrels flew over an enemy base as we were RTBing and film later confirmed that it had several Ar-234's on the runway rearming! We never saw them! Ugh! LOL

Good news is BigRat spotted two that just took off and he shot them down in an A-20!  :D
Title: Re: Cold Blooded Murder
Post by: Jappa52 on December 07, 2008, 06:03:58 PM
I was under the impression that vulching aircraft on the rearm pads was frowned upon... Isn't the focus of these FSOs supposed to be on killing the enemy in the air
Title: Re: Cold Blooded Murder
Post by: 4XTCH on December 07, 2008, 06:29:36 PM
I was under the impression that vulching aircraft on the rearm pads was frowned upon... Isn't the focus of these FSOs supposed to be on killing the enemy in the air

Jappa52,

Bailing from an AC over enemy field and walking over to re-arm pad with .45 in hand is frowned upon in FSO.
Re-arming near the front, or a friendly base thats flashing with out top cover is foolish IMHO. Those that ran for the tower were safe...... Those that didn't, added decorations to FILTH's lapel.


4XTCH



Title: Re: Cold Blooded Murder
Post by: MachFly on December 07, 2008, 09:20:03 PM
A couple of us towered.  I think the majority of us were caught so off guard that we didnt know what to do, tower, man our guns, take off....Me?  I tried to man my guns only to find out that they wouldn't fire (I can only guess it was because we were on the ground).

I just ran to the nearest bomber hanger.  :D  FiLtH took out both of my drones though  :cry




nice flying Filth  :aok
Title: Re: Cold Blooded Murder
Post by: Qrsu on December 07, 2008, 10:33:42 PM
Wow, it must have been a painful experience for those on the ground.  :O Can't fault you for taking advantage of that situation at all! WTG.  :salute
Title: Re: Cold Blooded Murder
Post by: RDRTrash on December 07, 2008, 10:48:02 PM
WTG Filth!  Nicely done.  Way to Capitalize on the situation! :aok
Title: Re: Cold Blooded Murder
Post by: Sled on December 08, 2008, 01:22:51 AM
:lol

Wow, talk about catching the girls with their pants down. :lol


I know there are those in FSO that have a real problem with vulching........

but in a situation like that, who among us could resist scratching the itch on our trigger finger?

AC being shot on the ground is a viable tactic in war. So, if you are rearming and you hear the whine of a jet engine in the distance, might be a good time to type...... ".ef"




:aok
Title: Re: Cold Blooded Murder
Post by: Sled on December 08, 2008, 01:27:54 AM
Jappa52,

Bailing from an AC over enemy field and walking over to re-arm pad with .45 in hand is frowned upon in FSO.


4XTCH





Correct.
Title: Re: Cold Blooded Murder
Post by: DrDea on December 08, 2008, 05:14:02 AM
 They werent rearming to drop sunshine and lollypops. He done good :)
Title: Re: Cold Blooded Murder
Post by: mbailey on December 08, 2008, 06:30:42 AM
They werent rearming to drop sunshine and lollypops. He done good :)

Exactly, we were rearming to go and drop bombs on his homeland. The reason that i did not tower is that i figured there were so many of us on the ground he couldnt hit us all, while i knew some of us were toast i personally rolled the dice and lost. He didnt get us all though, some made it through and continued to drop on targets.
Like i said in a previous post, i would have done exactly what he did.

Consider it an early Xmas present   :D
Title: Re: Cold Blooded Murder
Post by: Jappa52 on December 08, 2008, 08:06:13 AM
I understand that shooting a/c on the rearm pad with your .45 is NOT legal although I don’t know why this was mentioned since that was not the case here.  The FSO I remember the vulching question being discussed was in July 2008, Der Zweite Blitz: where Stoney said it was not tolerated.  After rereading it I realize I was mistaken and understand that vulching is allowed just not for that particular FSO.

I hope you took no offense to my question Filth, I just had my facts wrong.  You will only get a golf clap from me though  :D

Quote
Special Events Forums / Friday Squad Operations / Re: July FSO, Der Zeite Blitz: 1945on: June 23, 2008, 08:49:06 PM
Quote from: AKKaz on June 23, 2008, 08:29:08 PM
While this may be true in history, it is something that may or may not be a good addition to have in the FSO...It is happening, happened last frame with some opponents having no real concern on landing and getting as many kills as they could before frame end...Is it valid, sure, is this mentality something we need in mission orientated event.... that would be something the community would have to answer.
I'll save the community from having to answer for this.  Vulching in its strict sense is not tolerated within this FSO, i.e. strafing planes on the runway.  Within my power to glean information regarding such conduct from the logs and player film, kills garnered on the runway will not be scored.  That being said, there is nothing wrong with the Allies, in this case, using the tactic of trying to intercept enemy aircraft over enemy territory using anticipatory screens, etc.  That being said, the Allied CIC's shall not hold aircraft in reserve for this purpose, but merely use this type of tactic as the opportunity presents itself later in the frame.  All aircraft for both sides must be dedicated towards the completion of any of the 8 objectives assigned to each side for all 3 frames.

If I have not made myself crystal clear to anyone, let me know via PM and I will reinforce this policy in terms that you can better comprehend.

Last, I will adjust the rules in the weekly objectives to provide incentives for folks to successfully RTB without creating undue pressure on myself through an extrememly complex and time consuming nut-roll during my scoring.

Title: Re: Cold Blooded Murder
Post by: daddog on December 08, 2008, 09:36:30 AM
Quote
After rereading it I realize I was mistaken and understand that vulching is allowed just not for that particular FSO.
  :aok
Title: Re: Cold Blooded Murder
Post by: oakranger on December 08, 2008, 09:46:54 AM
Filth,

Allied forces has a mark for you haed.
Title: Re: Cold Blooded Murder
Post by: Shifty on December 08, 2008, 10:25:01 AM
Nice pics Filth.

Don't you know though vulching bombers is like masterbation? It's fun while you're doing it but you don't brag about it.  :D
Title: Re: Cold Blooded Murder
Post by: FiLtH on December 08, 2008, 01:41:04 PM
 Jappa np here :)

   Oakranger...Im sorry I will be unable to be present for retaliation. I will be at the Eagle's Nest getting swords and diamonds for my Iron Cross from you know who :P
Title: Re: Cold Blooded Murder
Post by: oakranger on December 11, 2008, 10:54:17 PM
Jappa np here :)

   Oakranger...Im sorry I will be unable to be present for retaliation. I will be at the Eagle's Nest getting swords and diamonds for my Iron Cross from you know who :P

LOL. 

Well, i do have to say that it was perfect timing on your part.  That is a wet dream coming trul.  WTG SIR  :salute 
Title: Re: Cold Blooded Murder
Post by: Getback on December 12, 2008, 01:03:58 PM
WTG Filth! That certainly explains why I saw 2 b26s with no formations. Nope, didn't get either one.
Title: Re: Cold Blooded Murder
Post by: RDRTrash on December 12, 2008, 01:50:51 PM
FiLtH
22:04:28 Departed from Field #144 in a Me 262A-1
22:34:29 Shot down a B-26B flown by MachFly.
22:42:19 Takes on fuel/ammo/ord at field #130.
22:58:11 Shot down a B-26B flown by mbailey.
22:58:11 Shot down a B-26B flown by MachFly.
22:58:11 Shot down a B-26B flown by mbailey.
22:58:11 Shot down a B-26B flown by DREDger.
22:58:12 Shot down a B-26B flown by Newman5.
22:58:13 Shot down a B-26B flown by Radio6.
22:58:41 Shot down a B-26B flown by lobo3.
22:58:41 Shot down a B-26B flown by yeager.
22:58:41 Shot down a B-26B flown by mbailey.
22:58:42 Shot down a B-26B flown by settler.
22:58:43 Shot down a B-26B flown by settler.
22:58:43 Destroyed a field gun at base #70 
22:58:45 Shot down a B-26B flown by kidky.
23:07:29 Helps Frodo shoot down settler.
23:11:04 Arrived Safely at Field #191

Lobbin Softballs!, LOVE IT!  Only MachFly had a shot at you while in the air!  :aok
Title: Re: Cold Blooded Murder
Post by: MMMKKK on December 12, 2008, 03:10:30 PM
These planes all blew up at field 70 which is not on the allied airfield list.
I was under the impression we had to replane at our original base.
Any clarification would be greatly appreciated,tx.
Title: Re: Cold Blooded Murder
Post by: Hamltnblue on December 12, 2008, 03:49:43 PM
If shot down or otherwise killed you can't re-plane/re-up.  You can re-arm at any friendly base that has a re-arm pad.  I wouldn't recommend doing it close to the action though.
Title: Re: Cold Blooded Murder
Post by: oakranger on December 12, 2008, 04:34:48 PM
Yea, thats where the bomber made there mistake.  If they where another section back from the front line, they would have been ok.  But i am sure he would still have got some of them in the air. 
Title: Re: Cold Blooded Murder
Post by: mechanic on December 12, 2008, 04:52:37 PM
Absolutely awesome, the title dragged me in from the 'unread post since last visit' page..

FYI filth if you remove all the films from the HTC folders and store them somewhere else on your harddrive, you wont get that freeze when turning film on. Anything over 100 or so films can start to lag badly depending on your computer. Also clear out the screen shots to another folder as the same applies. I have a folder in My Documents with old films and screen shots.


oh....best vulch ever!
Title: Re: Cold Blooded Murder
Post by: daddog on December 12, 2008, 04:54:49 PM
Quote
FYI filth if you remove all the films from the HTC folders and store them somewhere else on your harddrive, you wont get that freeze when turning film on. Anything over 100 or so films can start to lag badly depending on your computer. Also clear out the screen shots to another folder as the same applies. I have a folder in My Documents with old films and screen shots.
Very nice tip. Thanks sir!
Title: Re: Cold Blooded Murder
Post by: mechanic on December 12, 2008, 04:58:26 PM
glad to be of service!
Title: Re: Cold Blooded Murder
Post by: LLogann on December 12, 2008, 06:10:16 PM
<S> Filth

That is just AWESOME!  I also dream of this day.

Title: Re: Cold Blooded Murder
Post by: FiLtH on December 12, 2008, 08:04:43 PM
Thanks Mech, great tip indeed!
Title: Re: Cold Blooded Murder
Post by: haasehole on December 16, 2008, 10:06:38 AM
  :salute  great clod blooded killing nice pic  :rock   I :confused: thought you could not rearm formations anyway
Title: Re: Cold Blooded Murder
Post by: Getback on December 16, 2008, 03:19:57 PM
  :salute  great clod blooded killing nice pic  :rock   I :confused: thought you could not rearm formations anyway

Only one plane will take off. I believe when you die in that plane you will be transferred back to the next one in line. At least it use to work that way. Lot of little tricks to that though.