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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: opposum on December 09, 2008, 04:35:17 PM
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can anyone identifiy what vehicle this road wheel goes to?
(please serious answers only, no oh well it looks lit it goes to this tank... bla bla bla)
http://www.bunkermilitaria.com/WEBSITE-20081114/2812_02.jpg (http://www.bunkermilitaria.com/WEBSITE-20081114/2812_02.jpg)
(after you click the link, click the pic again to zoom in)
my hair has turned grey trying to find the answer, can anyone help me please?
the best I could figure of it is that it might be from one of the models of tiger
thanks,
opposum
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they might be from the panther they look almost a like from what iv looked at but I'm not relay shure its hard to tell
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Look like from a Panther or a Tiger.
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Good pictures, but what are it's measurements? (weight and diameter)
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Since when was German tank parts made in the USA? It says continental right on it. Try finding a picture of a vehicle with this type of wheel on it and go from there.
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Since when was German tank parts made in the USA? It says continental right on it. Try finding a picture of a vehicle with this type of wheel on it and go from there.
Continental AG is a German company founded 1871 in Hannover.
And the measurment numbers on it seem indeed to be metric.
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Since when was German tank parts made in the USA? It says continental right on it. Try finding a picture of a vehicle with this type of wheel on it and go from there.
That's what I thought when I saw the continental on it too. It also has the circle-A stamp on it in one of those pictures, which I'm pretty sure is from a North American based steel company/foundry (don't have a clue to it's name/owner).
Continental AG is a German company founded 1871 in Hannover.
And the measurment numbers on it seem indeed to be metric.
Ah, so then I wonder where that circle-A on it is from? It seems familiar to me.
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Continental AG is a German company founded 1871 in Hannover.
And the measurment numbers on it seem indeed to be metric.
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk121/TheAmish/confused0006.gif)Interesting indeed. So it's agreed that this is off a German GV?
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My educated guess would be a Panther. Its smoothly concave and has a single row of six lugs (rivets?), where the Tigers have concentric ridges and two spread out rows of rivets.
If its not an actual Panther, its one of its derivitives.
EDIT:
Tiger Roadwheels
(http://www.tankzone.co.uk/images/wecohe/t1/t1_late_roadwheels_400.jpg)
Panther Roadwheels
(http://www.lonesentry.com/articles/ttt_panther/ttt_panther_tank.jpg)
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It could be from a panther, but seems to be missing more of an outer rim.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/00/1panther_yb_Giovanni_Paulli.jpg)
Oh, I just found a really close match.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8c/Bundesarchiv_Bild_183-J14953%2C_Sizilien%2C_Panzer_VI_%28Tiger_I%29.jpg)
That's a Tiger I Ausf. E
All the Tiger II (King Tiger) wheeles I can find have a lot more rivits in them. But quite a few of the Tiger I varient pictures I'm looking at have the "panther-like" wheeles, just missing that wide outer rim the panther tanks had.
Another Tiger I picture that looks very simmilar:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Tiger_Tank_1%2C_Bovington.jpg)
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LoL, your pics are the exact opposite of mine!
I hereby withdraw from further comment on this topic, since I obviously have no idea.
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LoL, your pics are the exact opposite of mine!
I hereby withdraw from further comment on this topic, since I obviously have no idea.
Honestly I thought all the Tiger wheeles were riveted too (like in your pictures). Then I read something while skimming through an article on a Panther about how many of the parts on the concept design of the Panther II were to be interchangable with Tiger I parts. Since all the pictures of Panther wheeles up until then looked similar but not precisely what we were looking for (that wide non-conclave rim the panther had), I went through some Tiger photos. Some of the Tiger I wheeles look like what were looking for (conclave with a narrower rim than the panther's), and the Tiger II wheeles definetley seem to be the riveted wheeles you pictured.
I didn't pour through any of the Panzer or StuG photos though, could just as well be from one of those too, this is just the first similarity I stumbled on.
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take a look at the jagdpanther wheels, it kind of looks like those also, if I am not mistaken it looks like it was used for something after the war because the center looks like it was replaced and I can't figure out why the rubber on it is so rounded, also take a look at this link:
http://www.bunkermilitaria.com/WEBSITE-20081121/2823_02.jpg (http://www.bunkermilitaria.com/WEBSITE-20081121/2823_02.jpg)
what does this one look like?
it too looks like the center was replaced and it also was used after the war for something else because the rubber is worn away again
any more ideas?
thanks again,
opposum
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Some pictures of dismantled wheels from a tiger being restored as well as an original photo of the same tank. (http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/3946/4598f5smkr3.th.jpg) (http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4598f5smkr3.jpg) (http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/8260/4318e2lx7.th.jpg) (http://img301.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4318e2lx7.jpg) (http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/507/510f3detailwp7.th.jpg) (http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=510f3detailwp7.jpg)
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http://www.bunkermilitaria.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=2812&Category_Code=GORM&Product_Count=100
In the site they say its from a panther.
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http://www.bunkermilitaria.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=2812&Category_Code=GORM&Product_Count=100
In the site they say its from a panther.
yes, the site says panther but looking at historical pictures, I cannot find a match between it and a panther.
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Is it possible that its the inside roadwheel, the one of the pair toward the hull? Or the interior half of one of those ones made of two pieces? Might be why its not looking like the pics that we can all find.
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Is it possible that its the inside roadwheel, the one of the pair toward the hull? Or the interior half of one of those ones made of two pieces? Might be why its not looking like the pics that we can all find.
I was thinking of that too, I saw a picture similar to that
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can anyone identifiy what vehicle this road wheel goes to?
(please serious answers only, no oh well it looks lit it goes to this tank... bla bla bla)
http://www.bunkermilitaria.com/WEBSITE-20081114/2812_02.jpg (http://www.bunkermilitaria.com/WEBSITE-20081114/2812_02.jpg)
(after you click the link, click the pic again to zoom in)
my hair has turned grey trying to find the answer, can anyone help me please?
the best I could figure of it is that it might be from one of the models of tiger
actually it looks to be from a 1/2 tract of some kind. The lack of perimeter bolts indicates to me that it's not from a Panther or Tiger
thanks,
opposum
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My educated guess would be a Panther. Its smoothly concave and has a single row of six lugs (rivets?), where the Tigers have concentric ridges and two spread out rows of rivets.
If its not an actual Panther, its one of its derivitives.
EDIT:
Tiger Roadwheels
(http://www.tankzone.co.uk/images/wecohe/t1/t1_late_roadwheels_400.jpg)
Panther Roadwheels
Your picture shows the late version all steel road wheels . Early Tigers had rubber road wheels simular to the color photos shown.