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Title: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: VoX on December 10, 2008, 03:22:44 PM
What is the point of the login number restriction?

Case in point try and login and its shows 175/100 ini the arena, wait two minutes and try again and low and behold you can get in.

Hitech please get rid of this daft system!!! WTF is the point of Titanic tuesday and then split the bandwidth for the other six days!!! :mad:

Tonto!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: Shuffler on December 10, 2008, 03:23:46 PM
Vox try reading the boards before you post. Then you won't look daft.
Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: uptown on December 10, 2008, 04:07:16 PM
Vox try reading the boards before you post. Then you won't look daft.
:lol
Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: AWwrgwy on December 10, 2008, 04:14:17 PM
2 minutes, huh?

Anyway, I've been convinced for some time that the login screen randomly shows different arena maximums for different people at different times.  Kind of based on what Vox saw.  You'll be in an arena and get booted and when you try to get back in it's 235/200 or something waaay off.
Also, I've noticed at midnight Central Time, the maximum go up to 400 no matter how many are on at the time.



wrongway
(looking for the cheese)
Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: Treize69 on December 10, 2008, 04:17:05 PM
I'm partial to the number in the arena going up when its above the cap- ie, it'll be 230/200, then a minute later you'll check back and its 245/200. See LW do that quite frequently at night.
Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: druski85 on December 10, 2008, 04:43:06 PM
I'm partial to the number in the arena going up when its above the cap- ie, it'll be 230/200, then a minute later you'll check back and its 245/200. See LW do that quite frequently at night.

Premium accounts.
Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: Ack-Ack on December 10, 2008, 05:24:39 PM
Vox try reading the boards before you post. Then you won't look daft.

His call sign is "Tonto", know what that means in Spanish?


ack-ack
Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: Treize69 on December 10, 2008, 05:29:23 PM
His call sign is "Tonto", know what that means in Spanish?


ack-ack

Minority sidekick?
Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: Helm on December 10, 2008, 05:48:08 PM
Arena caps suck .....end the misery




Helm ...out
Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: ODBAL on December 10, 2008, 05:56:12 PM
Arena caps suck .....end the misery




Helm ...out

+1
Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: Ack-Ack on December 10, 2008, 06:24:26 PM
Minority sidekick?

LOL!  Tonto is slang for "dumb/stupid".


ack-ack
Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: Bronk on December 10, 2008, 06:36:41 PM
+1
-1 :D
Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: Bruv119 on December 11, 2008, 12:21:52 AM
averaging 10 posts a year surely he can be forgiven for missing the field of dead horses.   ;)
Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: E2hawkey on December 11, 2008, 11:31:42 AM
two whole minutes <sigh yep minute  rice takes far too long to cook too
Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: MrMeanie on December 11, 2008, 02:58:00 PM
the late war orange is 158/100 now? so what doesn't htc just cap the rooms at 600?
Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: The Fugitive on December 11, 2008, 03:03:05 PM
the late war orange is 158/100 now? so what doesn't htc just cap the rooms at 600?

Why don't you do a search (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?action=search) here on the boards to find out why it is set as it is?
Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: Bronk on December 11, 2008, 03:19:39 PM
Why don't you do a search (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?action=search) here on the boards to find out why it is set as it is?
Crazy talk...
Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: Motherland on December 11, 2008, 03:33:28 PM
Because

Orange: 321/300
Blue: 259/350

Would be better than...

Orange: 561/850
Blue: 10/850

In which case both arenas would suck.
Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: VoX on December 28, 2008, 07:30:20 AM
To aswage the tide of the morons: -


Shuffler I can learn from any idiot, u proved that case.
Ack-Ack My callsign as you can plain to see from the member post but for those of you unable to figure it out, it is VoX. and not Tonto, engage your brain first before jumping on the bandwagon of the morononics.

Yet again you might realise why i write so little on the forums because you always get some @rsehole who thinks it is cleaver to reply with a sarcastic comment to a genuine question rather than take the oportunity to help someone.

Disapointed in the community.

VoX
71 Squadron RAF

formerly of: -
9./JG54 Gruenhertz
<<===TheRedArrows==<<

Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: TEXAS20 on December 28, 2008, 05:28:46 PM
pervert?
Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: Masherbrum on December 28, 2008, 06:13:51 PM
LOL!  Tonto is slang for "dumb/stupid".


ack-ack

Are you telling.......us.....that hollywood in the 50's..........would have........no they wouldn't?   :devil
Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: Ack-Ack on December 28, 2008, 06:49:00 PM
Are you telling.......us.....that hollywood in the 50's..........would have........no they wouldn't?   :devil

I'm sure Hollywood meant it to mean, "Subservient Native American Lackey Serves His White Master Devil Dog That Wears A Gay Black Mask". 


ack-ack
Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: StokesAk on December 28, 2008, 07:03:41 PM
I don't understand how it is at cap but still the numbers of people go up?   :uhoh
Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: Masherbrum on December 28, 2008, 07:04:54 PM
I don't understand how it is at cap but still the numbers of people go up?   :uhoh

 :uhoh        :noid     :confused:
Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: Lusche on December 28, 2008, 07:06:13 PM
I don't understand how it is at cap but still the numbers of people go up?   :uhoh

Because cap is dynamic and depending on number of plyers in other LW arena. And the numbe rof players displayed on your loginscreen is static. If 5 players enter that screen and see 199/200, everyone of them can enter the arena.. resulting in 204/200 for anyone arriving a bit later at loginscreen.
Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: Max on December 28, 2008, 07:28:16 PM
I'm sure Hollywood meant it to mean, "Subservient Native American Lackey Serves His White Master Devil Dog That Wears A Gay Black Mask". 


ack-ack

Why Kimmosabe speak with forked tongue?
Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: hitech on December 29, 2008, 10:10:18 AM
Post 1.
Quote
What is the point of the login number restriction?

Case in point try and login and its shows 175/100 ini the arena, wait two minutes and try again and low and behold you can get in.

Hitech please get rid of this daft system!!! WTF is the point of Titanic tuesday and then split the bandwidth for the other six days!!! angry

Tonto!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Notice the deep respect he holds for all those who work and play AH?

Post 2.
Quote
To aswage the tide of the morons: -


Shuffler I can learn from any idiot, u proved that case.
Ack-Ack My callsign as you can plain to see from the member post but for those of you unable to figure it out, it is VoX. and not Tonto, engage your brain first before jumping on the bandwagon of the morononics.

Yet again you might realise why i write so little on the forums because you always get some @rsehole who thinks it is cleaver to reply with a sarcastic comment to a genuine question rather than take the oportunity to help someone.

Disapointed in the community.

VoX
71 Squadron RAF

formerly of: -
9./JG54 Gruenhertz
<<===TheRedArrows==<<

Notice how it is everyones fault that he does not post on the BBS more often. And that he signed his first post Tonto than takes offense when some one calls him that?

Dear Vox, I would suggest you look in your own house before calling other people "Moronic" there ideas "Daft" and then become "Angry" because they do not agree with you.


HiTech
Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: Bronk on December 29, 2008, 10:24:59 AM
 Zing

:rofl :rofl :aok

Edit: Now waiting for the enevitable "So... this is how HT treats his customers."
 :rofl
Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: lowZX14 on December 29, 2008, 10:28:30 AM
Ladies and gentlemen, you have just witnessed the King of Zing, the pwner of pwners, the keeper of the Coad.  It's always a pleasure to see the man himself come in to lay down some law.
Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: FiLtH on December 29, 2008, 10:29:11 AM
 So let it be written...
Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: Banshee7 on December 29, 2008, 10:33:19 AM
Post 1.Notice the deep respect he holds for all those who work and play AH?

Post 2.
Notice how it is everyones fault that he does not post on the BBS more often. And that he signed his first post Tonto than takes offense when some one calls him that?

Dear Vox, I would suggest you look in your own house before calling other people "Moronic" there ideas "Daft" and then become "Angry" because they do not agree with you.


HiTech


 :O.....can someone say.....burn?
Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: Treize69 on December 29, 2008, 11:25:10 AM
EPIC FAIL
Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: The Fugitive on December 29, 2008, 11:33:56 AM
I love it when Hitech posts something..... they are always so much fun to read !
Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: Slate on December 29, 2008, 11:38:13 AM
 :P :rofl
Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: odiemus on December 29, 2008, 11:52:08 AM
And after the lord of aces high spoke, behold Vox could no longer get any plane but SBD till humility was learned  :lol
Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: AWwrgwy on December 29, 2008, 06:59:31 PM
I don't understand how it is at cap but still the numbers of people go up?   :uhoh

As I understand it, it's all in the timing.  When you go to log in your log in screen may show 199/200.  This may also show on twenty other people's screen at the same time.  Instead of penalizing the slow logger-in-ers, the number is valid for all of them.  I pop on ten seconds after you have and my screen may show 200/200 because one of those previous twenty have logged into that arena.  You, still deciding where to go, still show 199/200 and are still able to get into that arena.  Therefore, all you twenty get into that arena and I try a little later and I see 219/200.

Another way such a disparity would come up is if a lot of people logged off from the smaller arena thus lowering the cap in the full arena.  Say the arena's are 219/200 and 189/250 and fifty people in the second go to bed.  The numbers may end up looking like 219/150 and 139/200.  I'm not sure if that would happen or not.  I'm just speculating on that.  I have seen that happen after a map reset, however.  Where the numbers would be something like 328/100 and 35/150.

My only real question is about how I see the cap maximum seem to change based on time of day.  For instance, 6pm EST, the caps will be something like 206/200 and 175/250 but at 1am EST they will be 206/400 and 175/450.  I have noticed that the caps jump from whatever they are to 400 at midnight local HTC time no matter the numbers in the arena.  I have also noticed that the caps seem to be lower, and work as designed in a dynamic manner, during peak USA playing times.

Just guessing on most of this.....



wrongway
Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: hitech on December 30, 2008, 09:57:31 AM
Quote
My only real question is about how I see the cap maximum seem to change based on time of day.  For instance, 6pm EST, the caps will be something like 206/200 and 175/250 but at 1am EST they will be 206/400 and 175/450.  I have noticed that the caps jump from whatever they are to 400 at midnight local HTC time no matter the numbers in the arena.  I have also noticed that the caps seem to be lower, and work as designed in a dynamic manner, during peak USA playing times.

That is correct, during off peak times 12:00 Midnight -> noon Central Time, there is no need for arena balancing.

HiTech
Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: FlyinFin on December 30, 2008, 01:02:21 PM
Because

Orange: 561/850


Would be better than...

Orange: 321/300
Blue: 259/350

In which case both arenas would suck.

Fixed
Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: VoX on December 31, 2008, 05:01:19 AM
Hmmm, Points taken Hitech I appologise if I offended anyone by replying in defense to accusations, however, I and obviously a number of others think the login system is plain daft. (Personal opinion, not throwing a stone, not questioning the right to bear arms, not calling you paranoid! )  :noid

What happened to the 'Customer is 'Always' right' BTW?  :O

Me thinks it was Hitechs personal idea to implement the sytem and you doth protest to strongly.  :D

VoX.




Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: The Fugitive on December 31, 2008, 08:53:51 AM
Hmmm, Points taken Hitech I appologise if I offended anyone by replying in defense to accusations, however, I and obviously a number of others think the login system is plain daft. (Personal opinion, not throwing a stone, not questioning the right to bear arms, not calling you paranoid! )  :noid

What happened to the 'Customer is 'Always' right' BTW?  :O

Me thinks it was Hitechs personal idea to implement the sytem and you doth protest to strongly.  :D

VoX.







Have you done a search for any information on the arena split, or caps? If you did you might understand the how and why a bit better. The customer is always right huh?? I'm sure every customer here would be happy and agree that a free 6 months of on line play would be the thing to do. The customer may be right, but it wouldn't be good business.

The cap system is very easy for a normal human being to understand. The "why's" and the "how's" are all spelled out very clearly on these boards. Do a little research before you post and you may not look like such "Daft" individual.
Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: Bronk on December 31, 2008, 10:21:35 AM

What happened to the 'Customer is 'Always' right' BTW?  :O



Woot.... going to go pick numbers for lottery ticket.
 ;)
Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: Max on December 31, 2008, 10:59:50 AM
Carefull VoX...the ice is gettin thin below your feet  :eek:


(http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/743/iceol8.th.jpg) (http://img48.imageshack.us/my.php?image=iceol8.jpg)
Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: AKDogg on December 31, 2008, 11:18:01 AM
Here is a sugestion to arena balance. 

1.  Still keep the arena cap but if a perticular country is real low in #'s compared to the rest, allow only that country into the arena regardless of the arena cap. 

ex. Rooks have 150 people, Bish have 160 people and knits have only 90, Then only people who are on the knit country can get into the arena to even the balance within the arena.  Obviously there will need to be a threshold of when to allow them to supercede the arena cap.  Probably a good start would be when 1 country is 40-50 people less then the other country's.  This may help prevent steam rolling/milk running on a the low # country.

2.  They can't switch country's to the low # when in the lobby just to get in and then switch back.  You have to be already assigned to that country. 
Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: hitech on December 31, 2008, 03:31:48 PM
What happened to the 'Customer is 'Always' right' BTW?  :O

Me thinks it was Hitechs personal idea to implement the sytem and you doth protest to strongly.  :D

VoX.
to paraphrase.

Me thinks HiTech could not have valid reasons for doing things they way they are, therefore it must just be his idea and since HiTech has a big ego, that is why he protest so strongly.

A lesson most people should learn.

The first thing to do when you have dug yourself into a hole, is quit digging.


HiTech
Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: VoX on December 31, 2008, 03:33:17 PM
Quote
The cap system is very easy for a normal human being to understand. The "why's" and the "how's" are all spelled out very clearly on these boards. Do a little research before you post and you may not look like such "Daft" individual.

The Fugative, thnx for your profound input, it is possible that I understand the concept I just dont agree with it because I feel personally that it is a flawed solution, but I will add that your input was invaluable and your inimical attitude in keeping with the minority it would seem.

Thank you Max I think I am already swimming in the weeds.  :D

VoX.
Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: VoX on December 31, 2008, 03:34:26 PM
Sorry HT I have a spade and I will dig for as long as I am allowed to use it.  :D

VoX.
Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: Bronk on December 31, 2008, 03:37:13 PM
Sorry HT I have a spade and I will dig for as long as I am allowed to use it.  :D

VoX.
(http://www.hitechcreations.com/pyro/bbswarning.gif)

 ;)
Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: AWwrgwy on December 31, 2008, 05:16:28 PM
Here is a sugestion to arena balance. 

1.  Still keep the arena cap but if a perticular country is real low in #'s compared to the rest, allow only that country into the arena regardless of the arena cap. 

ex. Rooks have 150 people, Bish have 160 people and knits have only 90, Then only people who are on the knit country can get into the arena to even the balance within the arena.  Obviously there will need to be a threshold of when to allow them to supercede the arena cap.  Probably a good start would be when 1 country is 40-50 people less then the other country's.  This may help prevent steam rolling/milk running on a the low # country.

2.  They can't switch country's to the low # when in the lobby just to get in and then switch back.  You have to be already assigned to that country. 


Was already done.  Called the Que.  You went to the Officer's Club and waited for a spot to open if you were not willing to switch countries or arenas.  People whined insesantly about that too.  I mean, why should anyone be inconvenienced by not getting what they want immediately?   :D :lol

I thought it was a good idea.



wrongway
Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: Nutzoid on December 31, 2008, 05:43:33 PM
to paraphrase.

Me thinks HiTech could not have valid reasons for doing things they way they are, therefore it must just be his idea and since HiTech has a big ego, that is why he protest so strongly.

A lesson most people should learn.

The first thing to do when you have dug yourself into a hole, is quit digging.


HiTech



Almighty HiTech, command and we shall obey!    :pray
Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: The Fugitive on December 31, 2008, 06:45:58 PM
The Fugative, thnx for your profound input, it is possible that I understand the concept I just dont agree with it because I feel personally that it is a flawed solution, but I will add that your input was invaluable and your inimical attitude in keeping with the minority it would seem.

Thank you Max I think I am already swimming in the weeds.  :D

VoX.

Well Vox, had you taken the time to look and read you would have notice there has been many suggestion made as to how it might be done better. Most have been shot down using logic, and fair play, things that don't mesh well with those who stamp their feet and cry "I want it my way !". However, if it make you feel better please, continue with the "moronic" post, they can only make you look better from here.
Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: AKDogg on January 01, 2009, 10:27:57 AM

Was already done.  Called the Que.  You went to the Officer's Club and waited for a spot to open if you were not willing to switch countries or arenas.  People whined insesantly about that too.  I mean, why should anyone be inconvenienced by not getting what they want immediately?   :D :lol

I thought it was a good idea.



wrongway

When was this?  I don't recall this ever being tried.  At least not since I been around, 2002.
Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: iTunes on January 01, 2009, 10:42:16 AM
Do some research first vox, that way the usual suspects don't get an excuse to swoop down from their perch to the thread.
Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: TheBug on January 01, 2009, 10:44:40 AM

What happened to the 'Customer is 'Always' right' BTW?  :O


VoX.






Best way to piss off a customer is to give him exactly what he wants.

Customers are so smart....     :)
Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: hitech on January 03, 2009, 12:35:33 PM
Hmm I like this line.

Quote
Best way to piss off a customer is to give him exactly what he wants.

Going to have to think of a variant for a possible signature.

HiTech
Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: TEShaw on January 03, 2009, 01:13:46 PM
Prolly "him/her" would be more appropriate.
Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: Shamus on January 04, 2009, 01:04:55 PM
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/105552/demands/
Title: Re: The mysterious Login Screen??
Post by: Max on January 04, 2009, 01:14:29 PM
^ ^ ^

Sounds like a few of my restaurant customers  :O