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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: iTunes on December 11, 2008, 04:04:52 PM
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More of a question aimed at the spit drivers really :)
Just curious why the 9 doesn't get it's fair share of use, personally think that the 9 is a wonderful little plane, A good solid Spit, not really uber at any one thing, but just good all round, I wish more of you spit drivers would take them up :)
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Monkey see monkey do....
If more is better, alot is just right...
The Spit9 is easier to turn fight but the guns are slightly worse.
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Erm the Mk XVI is a LF Mk IX with 50s instead of the peashooters.
Edit: American made Packard merlin 266 instead of the merlin 66.
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I agree.
Flying against the Spit 9 gives me fits. I would, ahem, extend from them until Mtnman, or was it MEF4UD, recently heckled me mercilessly when he found out. So, I'll fight a Spit 9 now, but I leave, ahem, extending as an option, especially if there aren't any hog drivers around to hurt my feelings.
Spit 16's? I'm all in.
HONK!
Gooss
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It's nimbler. That lets you get away with a lot more mistakes.
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More of a question aimed at the spit drivers really :)
Just curious why the 9 doesn't get it's fair share of use
By looking at the actual numbers, I'd say: It does get its fair share of usage.
Considering the 16 having a few distinct advantages in the LW arena environment, there is an amazing number of Spit IXs around.
Curious about the numbers? Just wait 3 more weeks for the upcoming annual analysis of AH2 MA gameplay:
(http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/8480/clipboard01ph6.jpg)
:D
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Will do lusche, I'm looking forward to reading that data :)
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The Spitfire Mk IX in AH is a Spitfire F.Mk IX powered by a Merlin 61 which is much less suited to the MA style of combat than the Merlin 66 in the Mk VIII and Mk XVI (I know the real Mk XVI had a Packard Merlin 266, but ours has power curves that match the Merlin 66) and thus has lower top speed and climb rate/acceleration than the Mk VIII and Mk XVI.
Because of that the Mk VIII and Mk XVI are better suited to the low altitude combat in AH and are, thus, superior to the Mk IX in AH.
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And at 25K it starts looking different :D
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Agreed. The Spitfire IX is a very tough opponent in FSO at 30k ft! :O
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Perk Open Office and Opera browser. :aok
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More of a question aimed at the spit drivers really :)
Just curious why the 9 doesn't get it's fair share of use, personally think that the 9 is a wonderful little plane, A good solid Spit, not really uber at any one thing, but just good all round, I wish more of you spit drivers would take them up :)
Because much of the crowd figures 16 is a larger number then 9 so it must be more uber :)
I do believe Karnak nailed it. The VIII and XVI in AH are low alt rated Merlin birds while the IX is medium to high alt rated Merlin powered.
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Lusche I wont get to skew the stats for december :( Gonna have to wait a whole year.
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It's 40 mph faster, rolls like a 190, and turns like a spit, but with better guns.
The real question is why you'd think the spit9 is better?
And I don't think it has anything to do with numbers. Back with the super-boosed Spit5 we had with 2x ammo load it was lord king of the EZ mode rides, despite the lower "number" in the name.
So the name itself has little to do with it.
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It's 40 mph faster, rolls like a 190, and turns like a spit, but with better guns.
The real question is why you'd think the spit9 is better?
And I don't think it has anything to do with numbers. Back with the super-boosed Spit5 we had with 2x ammo load it was lord king of the EZ mode rides, despite the lower "number" in the name.
So the name itself has little to do with it.
I'd take our old Vc over the XVI every time :) .
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Don't forget out old Mk IX with the Mk XVI gun setup :D
Anyway, just for fun, when the first squadrons of the Mk IX entered service in 1942 (february?), one squad leader lined his squadron in battle formation, cruising at 43K. Nothing the Germans had could be thrown at them at that altitude at that time.
I wonder how well AH models this, but in real life, nothing in the planeset could compete with the Mk IX at very high altitude, - being from 1941/42 that is.
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I wonder how well AH models this, but in real life, nothing in the planeset could compete with the Mk IX at very high altitude, - being from 1941/42 that is.
Its the same In AH, you can engage multiple cons over 25K and just play with them like toys. Even P51D, P38L's, jugs, or whatever. (maybe the ta152 would fit up there)
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I'd take our old Vc over the XVI every time :) .
+1
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I wish we could have our old Vc back, even if perked a bit.
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Our old V was a Vc? A boosted Mk V?
Anyway, we haven't even got the ultimate Merlin Spitty yet, since there isn't the +25 boost :devil
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I like the spit9 more then the 16 - 16 is basically glamorized version of the 14 IMO
(but this is coming from an pony dweeb :D )
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I like the spit9 more then the 16 - 16 is basically glamorized version of the 14 IMO
(but this is coming from an pony dweeb :D )
:huh
That makes no sense. The Mk XVI is a Mk IX that just happens to have a Merlin made in the USA. The Mk XIV has a much larger Griffon engine.
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The Spit 16 has clipped wings with two fifty cals instead the two 303s on the Mark 9. There are several other little differences between the two. The Spit Mk14 is almost a completely different airframe. It had a different wing, extended tail, larger rudder and larger control surfaces. The Mark 14 has the Griffon engine and will outperform most of the other Spitfires in every category. The differences between the Spit14/16 can be compared to the Typhoon/Tempest.
Steel
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Our old V was a Vc? A boosted Mk V?
Anyway, we haven't even got the ultimate Merlin Spitty yet, since there isn't the +25 boost :devil
Old Vc was a 1943 max boost with cropped impellor Vc.
Basically a Vc CCC but without the clipped wings.
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I like the spit9 more then the 16 - 16 is basically glamorized version of the 14 IMO
(but this is coming from an pony dweeb :D )
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XVI (16) = Low alt Merlin equipped Spit.
XIV (14) = Griffon engined Spit.
XIV (14) Is actually the 'ultimate' (engine power) and fastest Spit in the game.
As Karnak said - Our XVI is in reality a mid 1944 LF IXe. If you ignore the 50cals its identical to a 1943 LF IX.
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And while our Mk IX is the altitude king (from 1942), AFAIK later variants could top the performance.
But we do not have the +25 one yet (merlin), now do we :devil
Nor the later griffon.......
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I think we can solve the problem quite easily of the numbers confusion, the wish for the old Spit Vc and the angst about the XVI.
Spit XII! And it's a midwar bird too :)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/SpitXIIPair.jpg)
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YESS :rock
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I'm still partial to the 14. Its a Spit that thinks its a 109.
So I can fly it and feel like a complete tool.