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Special Events Forums => Friday Squad Operations => Topic started by: CHAPPY on December 13, 2008, 12:30:28 PM
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I dont think planning of splitting up 1 squad to defend/attack 2 different targets should be done by any CIC.
FSO is a squad based event.
Not half go this way and half go that way.
There are plenty of squads to take up the slack, splitting up 1 squad
to do both is not right IMO.
I thank the Axis CIC for changing his mind at the last minute,
but it never should have been an option.
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To quote from the FSO rules page on ahevents.org
All squads may split, but only into 2 different AC. squads must have the same objective. Squads may not be split into 2 different groups to attack 2 different targets. They may fly a bomber with escort role, or 2 different fighters in the same squad to escort another squads bombers. etc. Unnecessary spliting is to be avoided.
Not sure what the Axis split was to be, but if it had not met the rules requirement above, any FSO squad CO/XO should point it out kindly to the CiC and/or the FSO Admin in charge of the event. Failure to abide by the rules will, at a minimum, result in side point penalties.
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What forHIM said.
It is in the rules. Squads want to fly together and the CM staff expects them to. FSO is designed for squads and are expected to stay together. Sometimes CiC's make a simple mistake. Sounds like it was corrected. :)
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The plan in my HEAD was for one squad in each area to support one of the two airfields (north and south) at their discretion (including whether to proceed as a unit to one position, or to divide and cover both). When writing up the orders that part of it slipped my mind and I wrote it SPECIFICALLY as splitting them instead. I corrected it as soon as I was advised of this concern by the C/Os of the respective squads.
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Squads on the allied side that were split were kept together with the same target. Some squads are simply large and it helps with the minimums. Another thing is that when a squad is escorting itself, bombers seem to get better protection since it's their brother's watching their back.
Edit. Oops I didn't read through that you were talking about splitting to send 2 different places
:salute
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Plus when a squad escorts their own bombers the bomber pukes know how hard they have to man their guns. It also helps direction since you have a bomber lead and a fighter lead. CLAIM JUMPERS really enjoyed escorting our own boys to a188 and back. Just need to work on the whole salvo x thing....carpet bombers.... :furious
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As I wrote the rule in the FSO rules, let me explain its intent.
I talked with Sax about the problem before frame start, and I apricieate him trying to fix the situation.
Chappy is correct, FSO is about squads flying together. So what does that mean?
Basically squads need to have the same objective, ie defend the same base or attack the same base.
Not split up and half go protect this base, and half go protect this base 35 miles away.
Now there are some types of "splitting" that would be OK. Lets say a squad has 2-262's and the rest are 109's, if you wanted the two 262's to go scout ahead, that is fine, as they are still working to protect the base with their squad.
Same goes for attacking a base, If half of the squad is in 17's and the other half in 51's as cover, that also is find, you are all still attacking the same base. (or bases)
I hope that explains it. :)
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The plan in my HEAD was for one squad in each area to support one of the two airfields (north and south) at their discretion (including whether to proceed as a unit to one position, or to divide and cover both). When writing up the orders that part of it slipped my mind and I wrote it SPECIFICALLY as splitting them instead. I corrected it as soon as I was advised of this concern by the C/Os of the respective squads.
I told chappy 30 minutes b4 frame started he was to be split. My squad defended 135. Chappy wasnt happy!. I understand his disapointment. I also understand that it was corrected b4 start of frame.
13MPG Defended 135 with 16 guys.. Did we get any help? That is my question.. If some sort of decision was made prior to launch , dont you think i should have known? Tuk151 Co 13MPG......