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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Tac on January 24, 2001, 05:21:00 PM
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YEEEHA!
NICE SUPERFLY!
Can we have stats on that buff please? top speed, armament, etc?
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BOOYAAAAAAAA!!!!
(http://hitechcreations.com/superfly/ar234front.jpg)
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Start saving your bottle caps boys!
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Arado 234B-2 Blitz
Powerplant
Two Junkers Jumo 109-004-1 Orkan turbojets each rated at 1,984 lb st dry, provision for two HWK 109-500 RATO units each rated at 1,102 lb st for 30 seconds.
Fuel capacity
Internal fuel 1,003.85 US gal (835.9 Imp gal, 3800 liters); external fuel up to 158.5 US gal (123 Imp gal: 600 liters) in two 79.25 US gal (66 Imp gal; 300 liter) drop tanks.
Demensions
Wing
Span 46 ft 3.5 in; aspect ratio 7.54; area 284.17 sq ft
Fuselage and Tail
Length 41 ft 5.5in; height 14 ft 1.25 in
Operational weights
Empty 11,464 (5200kg) equipped; normal take-off 18,541 lb (8410 kg); maximum take-off 21,715 lb (9859 kg)
Performance
Maximum speed
Maximum speed 'clean' 400 kt (461 mph; 742 km/h) at 19685 ft (6000 m) declining to 380 kt (435 mph; 705 km/h) at sea level; economical cruising speed 335.5 mph at 13,125 ft.
Maximum range
Maximum range 880 nm (1,013 miles); typical range 840 nm (967 miles) with a weapon load of 1,102 lb (500 kg); endurance 2 hours 30 minutes
Performance
Climb to 19,685 ft in 12 minutes 48 seconds with a weapon load of 1,102 lb; service ceiling 32,810 ft
Crew
1
Fixed armament
Two 20mm MG 151/20 fixed rearward-firing cannon with 200 rounds per gun in the lower corners of the rear fuselage.
Disposable armament
Up to 3,307 (1500 kg) of disposable stores carried on three hardpoints (one under the fuselage rated at 3,086 lb/1400 kg and two under the engine nacelles with each unit rated at 551 lb/250 lg), and generally comprising of one 3,086 lb PC-1400 bomb, or one 2,205 lb lb SC-1000 or SD-1000 bomb and two 551 lb SC-250 bombs, or three 1,102 lb SC-500 bombs, or three 1,102 lb AB-500 clusters of 4.4 lb SD-2 anti-personnel bomblets, or three 551 lb AB-250 clusters of 4.4 lb SD-2 anti-personnel bomblets.
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Nath_____
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
(http://pobox2.zyan.com/~nath/haha.jpg)
A captured Bolshevik pilot once stated, "In battle, the fighters with the green hearts are generally in the minority. But when they're there, things realy heat up. They're all aces!"
[This message has been edited by Nath-BDP (edited 01-24-2001).]
[This message has been edited by Nath-BDP (edited 01-24-2001).]
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Oh Yeaahhhh Baby!!!!!! Daddy's gonna have to start saving up some bomber perk points. Looking good Superfly!
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LJK_Raubvogel
LuftJägerKorps (http://www.luftjagerkorps.com)
(http://content.communities.msn.com/isapi/fetch.dll?action=view_photo&ID_Community=Raubspics&ID_Topic=2&ID_Message=30)
[This message has been edited by LJK Raubvogel (edited 01-24-2001).]
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Lovely.
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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NICE !
Performance Ar-234B
Max speed__________ 740km/h (460mph)
Service ceiling____ 11500m
Range______________ 1630Km
Bombload____________1500 kg
Armament____________2*MG151/20 firing backwards (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
(And it should be "Fully capable for aerobatics" what ever that means (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif))
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And it look absolutely beautiful too!!
-Westy
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Looks fantastic, superfly!
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Wow how many perk points will it cost? I wanna fly it. Will it be availe in the off line mode?
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BTW: Pilot needed to do bomb-aiming too: Before target he had to put plane in autopilot, move controls away from him and start looking 'scope for aiming. So no gunners or outside views in this plane. How much bombs HQ needs to collapse? 30000lb?
It takes 10 Ar-234s to do that job and with limited combat-radius I guess we'll see Arados more in "FastAttacks" in nearby airfields (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
I just hope those Yanks still stay in their so sloooooooooooooooow B-26s (Just kiddin' (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif))
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OMG!
Just when I think Ive seen it all..........
Yeager (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Also, the rear-firing guns had to be fired by the pilot, and aimed with a periscope.
From what I've read, those guns were often removed.
Interesting to see if they try to model them.
I'm not blowing any perk points on this baby; I'd rather fly 1 Tempest sortie than 100 Blitz sorties :-)
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The only reason they modeled the 234 is they cant goof up the number of propeller blades. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
<G,D,R>
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56th FG 63rd FS (http://www.jump.net/~cs3)
Lake City
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Hunh... nice lokkin bird.. but how effective as a buff is it gonna be in the attack role?
Hmmm. lemme see here... Looks like three eggs total 1500kg, so thats what... 1ea 3,000 lb hanger buster on the center line and 2ea 250lb ack swatters. Maybe useful to run in, knock down a VH and local dar to prep a field for conventional JABO attack.
Just what Nash ordered. How timely. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Thanks HTC. Does this mean the A26 when it comes out won't be perked??
Hang
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Looks like I'll have to get me some
"Perk Points" (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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The only real limitations I can see are range and length of runway- unless of course we get the one that had no landing gear, then it is a ditch regardless. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Yes, LW has a real reason to celebrate now... we're talking totally impervious to interception that anyone that is wary. If I look up and see one of these moving overhead I might wave, but I won't bother chasing!
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Still wont out-run my P51-H (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Seriously, looking good and sorely needed (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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That is gonna be sweet! Cant wait to try that one out!
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Kronos
CO No. 272 Squadron "Whispering Death"
---> http://members.home.net/wchiasson/no272/ (http://members.home.net/wchiasson/no272/)
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Correct me if Im wrong but didnt the Arado have a rearward facing periscope for the pilot to see aft?
Yeager
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Wohooo! I was wrong and I am glad (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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WTFG SF!
The main problem with Axis vs Allied arenas is the bomber dispairity. The Arado goes a long way to plugging that hole. If the Japanese get the Ki-46 next, that gives the axis some good tools for scenarios. Thanks!
Cya up...Braz
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Hangtime.. if you can get 4-5 guys with the perks to buy this, your "Fast Attack" profile will have a whole new meaning.
ARADO "JABO fighters.. ARADOs commencing attack"
JABO "What? we aren't even half way there yet!"
ARADO "JABO fighters.. Field is dead, can clear the 2 Ostwinds on the runway? We are RTB"
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"Wing up, Get kills, Be happy"
Midnight
13th TAS
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MMmmmm .... Very nice !
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LOL Midnight.. I suspect we'll soon see some more guys flyin buffs so they can get perk points for this thing. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Yep.. six of these hittin a field would sure change the attack profile some. As always; things just keep gettin better here. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Still, the damn thing has no forward guns.. dealing with HO's will be kinda scary. And, since a pony can catch it; and it'll be vulnerable from most attackers with 'e' from above, I suspect it'll fare poorly in most MA situations. It's gotta lousy climb rate too I hear. Wonder if we'll get the cluster bombs and if they are effective on GV's.
All in all it looks to be an interesting ride; and the LW should be pleased to have this thing available.
Call it the Buffers Runstang. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Hang
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Nice going! Just for you Luftwaffe nuts, that plane is from Kg-76. I can't figure the staffel or gruppe since my reference isn't the greatest.
Kg-76 official nose art:
(http://village.vossnet.co.uk/t/toles/kg76.gif)
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Flakbait [Delta6]
Delta 6's Flight School (http://www.worldaccessnet.com/~delta6)
"For yay did the sky darken, and split open and spew forth fire, and
through the smoke rode the Four Wurgers of the Apocalypse.
And on their canopies was tattooed the number of the Beast, and the
number was 190." Jedi, Verse Five, Capter Two, The Book of Dweeb
(http://www.worldaccessnet.com/~delta6/htbin/custom1.jpg)
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Ive gotta add: Thats one of the best Promo screen shots Ive seen just about anywhere.
Nice (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Yeager
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I don't know guys! This thing may be really dangerous to attack.
I'm in! SHOWTIME!!!!!!!!!!!!! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Voss 13th T.A.S.
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Does this mean I have to quit waving 'allied conspiracy' flag? ;(
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Wohooo! I was right and I am glad (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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jochen Gefechtsverband Kuhlmey I/SG 5
Sieg oder bolsevismus!
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If that bomber got in trouble all you would have to do is point the nose down a little. Nothing except a fighter diving from 10K above could catch you. Even then, if he blew the pass you would get away.
The thing does have a rather small bombload though. It probably will be a nuisance raider at best. (Unless you get 10 of them together for a HQ stike. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/eek.gif) )
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bloom25
THUNDERBIRDS
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Heh, someone cut the propellars off. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
AKcurly
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Just to be onry (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
(http://www.starduststudios.com/per.jpg)
- "Perfidia" © 1997 Troy White
Captain Don Bryan of the 328th FS, 352nd FG rolls out behind an Arado 234 "Blitz" bomber flown by Hauptman Hirshberger of 6./KG 76. The action took place on the afternoon of March 14, 1945. While returning from escorting B-26 and A-26 medium bombers, Bryan spotted the AR 234 making a bombing run on the pontoon bridge at Remagen. Having let an Arado get away from him during a mission on December 21, 1944, Don was not about to let that happen again. To compensate for the jet’s superior speed, Don positioned his P-51 Mustang so the German would have to fly toward him after his attack. As Hirshberger approached, Bryan began a dive that put him within range of the speedy bomber. His first burst knocked out the right engine and slowed the Arado down. This enabled the blue-nosed Mustang to stay in range and finish off one of the Third Reich’s "Wonder Weapons". Hirshberger jettisoned his canopy but was unable to get out before the crash. It was his first combat mission with 6./KG 76 and his first in the AR-234.
Great looking buff guys! Looks like fun.
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Col Dune
C.O. 352nd Fighter Group (http://www.352ndfightergroup.com)
"The Blue Nosed Bastards of Bodney"
"Credo quia absurdum est." (I believe it because it is unreasonable)
- The motto of the Republic of Baja Arizona
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Torgo, fighter perk points are seperate from bomber perk points. You won't use up any of the Tempest-buying points by flying the Blitz (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Looks great!
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it look`s great !! <S>
just 1 question fow to get that monster in Spit ? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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So much for the History Channel, and 10 books I have on WWII.
Never heard of that weird looking thing...and Im a WWII junky. Must be reading and watching popular channels, not the "Hard Core Nazi Network."
Yawn... What a weird addition.
The Stuka would have been more UN-timley?
Good thing I don't run a software company, Im lost.
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The Stuka would have been more UN-timley?
And who would fly Stuka in MA? It would have as much changes of survival as snowman has in the desert.
There were only two bombers worth to be perked and it was obvous that B-29 wont be it this early.
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jochenGefechtsverband Kowalewski
I. and II./KG 51, II. and III./KG 76, NSGr 1, NSGr 2, NSGr 20.
Do 17Z, Ju 87, Ju 88A, He 111H, Ar 234A, Me 410A, Me 262A, Fw 190F, Fw 190G.
Sieg oder bolsevismus!
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I would not expect to see very many of these babies caught by P-51's, unless the pilots are very very stupid (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure
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I would not expect to see very many of these babies caught by P-51's, unless the pilots are very very stupid
I think Ar 234 Blitz is something like 30-50 mph faster at all alts than any prop plane we have in game. So unless the prop plane has significant alt advantage it has quite small change of catching Blitz.
If Blitz is forced to turn and it does not have alt it is in danger since I think it will accelerate worser than fastes prop planes.
Ar 234 will be very interesting plane to try out!
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jochen Gefechtsverband Kowalewski
Units: I. and II./KG 51, II. and III./KG 76, NSGr 1, NSGr 2, NSGr 20.
Planes: Do 17Z, Ju 87, Ju 88A, He 111H, Ar 234A, Me 410A, Me 262A, Fw 190F, Fw 190G.
Sieg oder bolsevismus!
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Dune beat me to it! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) And Verm, of course thier aint any stupid folk in the MA (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
This would make a great tool for surgical strikes *IF* pilots can get good with it. Arados come in fast to take out the fh and VH at a field and then the slower craft can come in and clean up (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Got yourself two enemy fleets off your coast, Arado one of em. OR Both!! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
-Westy
[This message has been edited by Westy (edited 01-25-2001).]
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I can't wait to play with the thing.. certainly it will be a great "FAST ATTACK" weapon.. but it's use w/ prop planes in a arena setting where hangers are down for only 15 min at a time means good coordination will be required to make the most of it.
I can see an elite group of buffers banding together with these things and raising real havoc with the enemy's attacks... Example: attack detected launching from a24 towards P32. BIG jump in bar dar.. 4 Arado's scramble at A33, go to a24 in 9 minutes. They arrive at a24 before the raid to the port does.. and the arado's take down the barracks; the BH and the two FH' and VH. The attack on the port is 'marooned'.. no follow on waves of attackers will be comming from 24, and with just one ack Buff and a goon A24 could fall.
The weak points of tha Arado will be the inadvisability of loitering, poor acceleration, lack of forward araments, lousy climb rate, restricted bomb loadouts.
One thing worth considering.. in some JABO attacks I've come in very low and very fast in my pony running right thru active acks to strike hangers and radars, released, and roared right out the other side, nary a scratch. The faster you go; the lower the risk of the acks tagging you. I cant wait to try this thing on a low-level strike, it may be the solution to the poor grab rate, increasing it's transit speed even more towards a 'hot spot'.
If it does what I think it will do; it'll be a great 'firemans special'. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Hang
1st/AG "Bishlanders" << Recruiting!!
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According to Nath's data above, the thing can carry 3x1000-lb bombs, and goes 460 mph. That makes it the best light bomber in the sim. It's only drawback is that it can't vulch after it hits a field (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
As for climb, well, any plane that can go 460 is gonna be able to climb just fine once it drops its load. You won't be catching this plane unless you go hunting for it pretty cleverly.
It's an Axis P-47N with no guns (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) I wish they'd put one in Warbirds, so the durn LW would shut the hell up and fly instead of squawkin about the "jabo gap" all the time (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
<S> if you're gonna have "perk planes," this one's a good choice.
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Yeah, I think you have to stack a whole lot of "if's" together to get a hold of an Arado.
If you have a huge alt advantage.
If you are going in the same general direction.
If you are in one of the faster prop jobs.
If the Arado pilot is preoccupied.
If the Arado pilot isn't even mildly defended.
If the Arado doesn't have any alt to dive away.
In clean configuration this puppy will be faster by far at any alt than anything else in the game, and you better believe that anyone flying this thing will drop their load and vacate PRONTO if trouble develops. No suicide mentality here, or you lose the ride.
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Originally posted by Jochen:
And who would fly Stuka in MA?
I would, often
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The point is a Stuka would not be a perk bomber anyway. This thread is concerning the identity of the new perk bomber... not against a Stuka, but you wouldn't see people clammoring into B17's and Lancasters trying to earn enough points to get the "Wonder Ride" the Stuka wouldn't be.
I would guess (but how would I know?) the Stuka will make it eventually. There are better choices for perk bomber.
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Hey Hang....
I can see 10-12 Ponies huntin down that elite group of buffers and havin their way (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Just more Pony Food, but a great effort by HTC...Hope you LW are happy, you finally got a new ride (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Ice
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Am happy.
Would prefer to get a non perked 190G8 though
<never satisfied>
heheh (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Great work HTC.
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Baron Claus "StSanta" Von Ribbentroppen
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
(http://us.st5.yimg.com/store4.yimg.com/I/demotivators_1619_4916770)
"I don't necessarily agree with everything I think." - A. Eldritch
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Why a G-8? You need 300 litre drop tanks on wings instead of bombs? :P
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Notice no cockpit work done on the 234.... or it appears that way in the screenshots...
Hope that doesn't mean we are still 2 months away from introduction (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
SKurj
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Originally posted by Vermillion:
I would not expect to see very many of these babies caught by P-51's, unless the pilots are very very stupid (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Or the Mustang jock has saddled up in his P51-H (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) its faster than that crate!
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can't wait to shoot that baby down.....
44MAG
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Originally posted by Creamo:
So much for the History Channel, and 10 books I have on WWII.
Never heard of that weird looking thing...and Im a WWII junky. Must be reading and watching popular channels, not the "Hard Core Nazi Network."
Yawn... What a weird addition.
The Stuka would have been more UN-timley?
Good thing I don't run a software company, Im lost.
The Stuka a perk bomber? Umm....ok..
btw-more Ar234's produced than Chogs. You just don't hear about them because they aren't Amurrican, and John Wayne never made a movie about em.
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LJK_Raubvogel
LuftJägerKorps (http://www.luftjagerkorps.com)
(http://content.communities.msn.com/isapi/fetch.dll?action=view_photo&ID_Community=Raubspics&ID_Topic=2&ID_Message=30)
[This message has been edited by LJK Raubvogel (edited 01-25-2001).]
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Creamo, you've never seen an arado? hmm, must only watch the "Hitler channel" when Patton's on (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
As for your books, Wtf? I'm not a collector of WWII reading material like some of our more distinguished members, but I know I have at least 15-16 books that mention the 234. And two of those aren't even aircraft books (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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pzvg- "5 years and I still can't shoot"
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I never saw the post where it was introduced as a perk bomber. Matter fact, Superfly just posted pix like every other plane added as regular. Ummm, ok? (Granted, I might of missed something, Ill try to read the boards all day, but Id rather not.)
Anyhow, looks fun as hell to fly, and seems to be balanced. No fwd cannon, lighter bomb load.
As far as this being the "I should know that aircraft" Ive just loaded up "Great Fighting Machines of WWII" tape labelled "AXIS BOMBERS." I rarely watch it (AXIS BOMBERS?! yawn), and in fact the "Blitz" IS covered. The info here was VERY interesting.
For instance-
1. Total Built - 210
2. Entered Service July 1944
3. Pressurized Cockpit
4. Had no gear (needed the fuselage for fuel, so it took off from a droppable trolley) Strange.
Whats really cool it landed on a retractable SKID! Lol, one sorty, and then what?! You sit on the side of the runway tipped on yer wingtip?
5. The cannon were REMOTE CONTROL. Interesting how this will be modelled.
6. It had a EJECTION seat. Cant wait to blast these out of the sky. Will it be modelled?
7. They were so fuel thirsty, they were scrapped before fighting due to late war fuel shortage. (Except for very few Buldge missions)
I apologize that I was a bit disappointed there wasn't a Stuka in that picture, with a new patch to add the "War Siren" to the setup-sound-volume page. Yeah... that'd be the toejam.
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Arado's DID have landing gear, only the first test ones used the detached wheels, all the ones used in actual combat DID have a tricycle gear. This was due to the fact that they had to carry external ord.
(http://www.nasm.edu/nasm/aero/aircraft/images/arado_234.t.JPG)
[This message has been edited by TheWobble (edited 01-26-2001).]
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This site says there was no ejection seat.
http://vectorsite.tripod.com/avar234.html (http://vectorsite.tripod.com/avar234.html)
what to believe?
The game I downloaded doesn't have this plane.
Anyone gonna tell me how to put pictures into posts?
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Bare*Metal*Finish
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Well, the droppable trolley / landing skid was only used for the first prototypes in fear that a normal landing gear wouldn't hold the stress of high speed landing. Other sources state that the wings were too high and to thin for a normal wing-mounted landing gear, and the fuselage was to narrow to fit a landing gear into it.
- First prototypes V1 and V2 were finished winter 41/42, but had to wait until February 43 for the Jumo 004 A-0 engines. August 43 the V3 was completed, already with pressurized cabin and ejection seat. V4 same as V3, V5 with Jumo 004 B engines, last A-series type V7. V6 and V8 four-engined versions.
For the B-series the fuselage was widened and a retractable, fuselage mounted gear was built in, since the trolley/skid combo wasn't considered combat ready. First prototype V9 with improved Jumo 001 B-1 engines. V10, V12 and V14 were prototypes for a bomber version. V11, V15 and V17 used for testing BMW 003 engines, V13 had 4 BMW 003 engines.
First small B-0 series batch of 20 planes build and were mostly tested for operational flight/combat readyness tests in Rechlin.
B-1 series was the long range recon version, B-2 series the bomber version (the version that will be in AH).
There was also some C series 4-engined prototypes, C-3 the bomber version, C-4 the recon version.
Some C series prototypes were intended as night fighter testbeds, actually only a single B-1 was converted to nightfighter (it had a gondola with 2 MG 151/20), which supposedly managed to shoot down some british 4-engined night bombers in the winter of 44/45.
Az
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Good link BMF, seems like one guy watches a video and it says one thing matter of factual, one reads a webpage and assumes it's Gods word. Then we make assumptions from there I guess.
One thing is very clear, this is one weird no impact on anything plane that till yesterday never heard of, and still care as much about today.
Oh, if ya want to post pictures, just read how via the *UBB CODE IS ON link in the left margin in the reply fields.
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Y Azazel, but it said at the smisthsonian sight that all of the ones that ever saw combat did have landing gear, the skids were only in prototype stage, Im assuming the one in AH does have gear, if not thats a BIG mistake.
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That's exactly what I said Wobble. The A series was prototype only, the B series and all others had a landing gear. The version in AH is a B-2.
Az
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Ive watched this damn tape 3 times now, and in fact it said the PROTOTYPES had the skids. The PRODUCTION models widened the fuselage to accommodate tricycle landing gear, but it shortened the fuel capacity, hence the reduction of range to 1000 miles. (even with rocket assisted takeoff)
They then even towed a "winged fuel tank" to extend range. What a waste.
End result is, what a worthless, fuel pig, and I can't wait to blast 450 kts across the pond!
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I have stood inches from the bombsight of the Smithsonian Arado, which is actually kept right now at the Garber Facility.
Of course I was looking from the outside thru the plexiglass nose.... but hey, it was still BEAUTIFUL!
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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure
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Isn't the Me-262 going to be modeled as a perk plane or some other type of jet fighter? Can't that be used to chase down the Ar-234?
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SuperD
Dickweed Heavy Bomber Group
G8N."Renzan"(Rita)
IJNHeavy Ground Attack Bomber "Renzan"
(http://home.interlink.or.jp/~katoh00/kaigun/renzan/renzan1.jpg)
G5N."Shinzan"(Litz)
IJNHeavy Ground Attack Bomber "Shinzan"
(http://home.interlink.or.jp/~katoh00/kaigun/shinzan/shinzan1.jpg)
Imperial Japanese Naval Airplanes (http://home.interlink.or.jp/~katoh00/kaigun/k-frame.html)
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Bah, I don't need no steenkin' ME 262! With a few extra thousand feet of altitude, my Jug will be the perfect Arado killer. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
It's gonna be really easy meat when I get my P-47N. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Lephturn - Chief Trainer
A member of The Flying Pigs http://www.flyingpigs.com (http://www.flyingpigs.com)
"A pig is a jolly companion, Boar, sow, barrow, or gilt --
A pig is a pal, who'll boost your morale, Though mountains may topple and tilt.
When they've blackballed, bamboozled, and burned you, When they've turned on you, Tory and Whig,
Though you may be thrown over by Tabby and Rover, You'll never go wrong with a pig, a pig,
You'll never go wrong with a pig!" -- Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow"
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BMF, it is explained to the left, when you make a reply, in the "ubb code.."-link how to post pics. You need to have the pic placed somewhere on the net, either your own homepage or or somewhere else (right click and copy link location of pic). You can't add pics directly from your harddrive.
The reason the AR-234 are not in the game you downloaded (v1.05p5) is that this is just a pre-view of the planes that will be in v1.06