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Title: Is gun recoil modeled?
Post by: GRUNHERZ on December 21, 2000, 08:45:00 PM

Hi

Basically if you fire your guns for any amount of time does speed drop? Or If you are hanging on your prop and firing wildly away, will the gun recoil cause an earlier stall in AH? Both these effects were well documented in WW2 and other eras, so im just wondering if AH models them?  

thanks GRUNHERZ

Title: Is gun recoil modeled?
Post by: Nash on December 21, 2000, 08:53:00 PM

My understanding is that firing away wildly *will* decrease yer speed. Yer gonna have to ask one of the resident gear-heads for clarification on this however.

Title: Is gun recoil modeled?
Post by: Jigster on December 21, 2000, 09:05:00 PM

 

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ:
Hi

Basically if you fire your guns for any amount of time does speed drop? Or If you are hanging on your prop and firing wildly away, will the gun recoil cause an earlier stall in AH? Both these effects were well documented in WW2 and other eras, so im just wondering if AH models them?  

thanks GRUNHERZ

With the time you spent writing you could of tested yourself  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

But yes, recoil effects are definately present. The nose pitchs down and speed loss occurs.

Title: Is gun recoil modeled?
Post by: juzz on December 21, 2000, 09:12:00 PM

IIRC funked tested the recoil in AH against his own calculations, and the two agreed I think.

Title: Is gun recoil modeled?
Post by: Fishu on December 21, 2000, 10:32:00 PM

Very little effects..  perhaps 25mph maximum speed decrease in P-51..

Title: Is gun recoil modeled?
Post by: Sancho on December 21, 2000, 10:36:00 PM

 

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Originally posted by Fishu:
Very little effects..  perhaps 25mph maximum speed decrease in P-51..

How long of a burst?  How many guns?

Title: Is gun recoil modeled?
Post by: Frosty1 on December 21, 2000, 10:59:00 PM

It's modelled. Grab an F4U 1C and fire up the engine. Put a little throttle and move forward just a bit, then fire all your guns. It'll move you back pretty fast.

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Title: Is gun recoil modeled?
Post by: flakbait on December 22, 2000, 12:03:00 AM

If you want to get bored to tears I could post the calculations for figuring recoil. Back in BETA HiTech was having trouble figuring recoil. I didn't know it when I posted the calculations, but he told me about a rather interesting effect he got. Evidently he was using the muzzle energy figure to try and get the recoil force. Had the odd side effect of taking a plane from 300mph forward speed to 300mph backwards speed!

He uses the same method I do for figuring it. And I've always got it handy. If you want the method, just ask.


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Title: Is gun recoil modeled?
Post by: Pepino on December 22, 2000, 03:05:00 AM

Frosty, given the power of Quakecannons, If you do that,  you should find yourself moving 300 knots backwards with a 2 second burst. But...oh well...I forgot turbolasers have no recoil. You know, light weapons.   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

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