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Title: Don't Like Night
Post by: funkedup on September 13, 2001, 11:01:00 PM
Any chance of disabling that in the MA?
I don't enjoy chasing icons.  It just screams "log off and go to bed" to me.
Title: Don't Like Night
Post by: GRUNHERZ on September 14, 2001, 12:31:00 AM
I hear the buff rutabagas love night because they can still see the ground perfectly from any alt and hit perfectly, plus they are an extra bit harder to kill at night.  Cetrainly the buff rutabagas need this crutch too for at least several hours a day, I mean its soooooooooo difficult to buff in AH.   :rolleyes:

Anyway I hate night too, HTC killed it off once before and MA numbers were higher and more consistent, they should have learned from that.

Another thing to remember is that night isnt just the "black" period. Its also the two very long and nearly as dark "evening" and "morning" periods which are almost as bad in vision as the night.

BTW the "black" night periods are far too light anyway, its absolutly too light and easy to see the ground and in the air  compared to all the times ive flow at night in RL even in full moonlit nights.

Basically the implementation of night in AH is very much useless at the moment in every regard and should be removed for both gameplay and realism issues.
Title: Don't Like Night
Post by: SOB on September 14, 2001, 01:06:00 AM
I enjoy it and see it as a nice change of pace.  I don't like the way that the clip board gets dark at night or under cloud cover tho'.


SOB
Title: Don't Like Night
Post by: Fester' on September 14, 2001, 08:04:00 AM
i hate night and wind layers in Aces High


everything else ranges from ok to excellent
Title: Don't Like Night
Post by: myelo on September 14, 2001, 09:22:00 AM
I love the night. Different strokes I guess.

myelo
Title: Don't Like Night
Post by: Pongo on September 14, 2001, 10:18:00 AM
Night is worse for buff drivers you sniveling idiot. We operate out side of our dar so get no dot dar on the interceptors. Who do however get a dot dar on us. I dont know if there is a high con over a target till I get there. But they know im coming and from where. Interceptor gets 4k to plan his strike befor we have a chance of knowing where he is. This often removes the buffs freedom to change course quickly and force a 6 chase....
I dont enjoy the knight as much. If my hour of flying a knight is all dusk and dawn I dont have as much fun that knight.. But it is exciting to press into the blackness and not know where the baddies are till its almost always too late
Title: Don't Like Night
Post by: Tac on September 14, 2001, 10:39:00 AM
I LOVE the night. U guys that think that night is hard to see, TURN OFF the light in your room. You will see a-ok. It is harder, you have to watch your instruments a lot more...but damn its FUN. WTG HTC! This is one of the features I most like in AH. Gv battles at night are intense too! And nothing beats attacking a CV at night..das tracer!

I dont like the dawn/dusk. The orange is insufferable. Make the dawn/dusk last only 10 minutes please.
Title: Don't Like Night
Post by: oki on September 14, 2001, 10:39:00 AM
Bring on the darkness !  , its umm "funner".
In fact I think it should last 6-8 hours and get some radar night fighter ac going, maybe being able to 'click,click,click...' on the runway lights. How about burning flames from buildings and such...yahoooo.
For those afraidycat of the dark, just grab your favorite Teddybear or blankie and cuddle up to your joystick with your thumb between your lips  :D

As once was our motto, 'WE own the dark'

[ 09-14-2001: Message edited by: oki ]
Title: Don't Like Night
Post by: batdog on September 14, 2001, 10:44:00 AM
I like it.


xBAT
Title: Don't Like Night
Post by: LePaul on September 14, 2001, 11:19:00 AM
Randomize the wind layers, and more clouds, dammit!  I wish the wind layers were always at 12,000 here for my local flying.  Beyond the altitude of most of the Skyhawks I fly lately but this amazingly constant wind sheer and rather laughable.

Hey Grun, could you be a *little more* anti-buff?    :cool:
Title: Don't Like Night
Post by: Furious on September 14, 2001, 12:08:00 PM
Night should come to the MA once maybe twice a week and last 3 or 4 hours.  

With spotlights and night fighters and bombers it could be fun.

F.
Title: Don't Like Night
Post by: AN on September 14, 2001, 12:14:00 PM
anRky
Title: Don't Like Night
Post by: Maverick on September 14, 2001, 01:43:00 PM
Night is only a sign for me to leave the arena. I don't like it and dio not fly then.

Mav
Title: Don't Like Night
Post by: minus on September 14, 2001, 01:47:00 PM
hmm so you dont like the night,,,
\stop the earth rotations ,, quakers if you can..  :D
Title: Don't Like Night
Post by: dracken1 on September 14, 2001, 01:51:00 PM
Basically the implementation of night in AH is very much useless at the moment in every regard and should be removed for both gameplay and realism issues.

this above written by grunherz i find funny.
for greater realism you want darkness removed?
in britain night bombing was the norm.later in the war wellingtons,lancs and mossies would fly in low over the tgt dropping flares to aid the heavies above in pinpointing the tgt,now thats something i'd like to see in ah.bright silver b17's flying high in nice formation in broad daylight over europe, contrails streaming behind them acting like direction arrows to prowling 190's must have been an impressive sight.night fighting requires much more skill than daylight you have to rely more on your instruments and i believe that makes it all the more relistic.and is'nt realism something i see most of you wanting.
Title: Don't Like Night
Post by: Tozza on September 14, 2001, 02:31:00 PM
I love the nighttime in AH as it affords me some quality time with "fluffy" the kinky little sheep in the field north if airbase A26 where we can often be found at the midnight hour making excellnt use of my velcro wellis  :D
Title: Don't Like Night
Post by: Wotan on September 15, 2001, 01:22:00 AM
i log everytime the sun goes dwn it looks great but sux

like mindinao terrain
Title: Don't Like Night
Post by: SKurj on September 15, 2001, 09:09:00 AM
I don't mind the night, however make it no more than 30 mins...

I usually just up a buff when dark falls, i don't like chasin icons either


SKurj
Title: Don't Like Night
Post by: zapkin on September 15, 2001, 10:49:00 AM
at night enemy icon range should drop to 3k!
Title: Don't Like Night
Post by: BenDover on September 15, 2001, 11:10:00 AM
stealing my idea zap  :rolleyes:.

night time is too light,it needs to be darker
icons need to drop to 3k
fields need landing lights when u go near them if your a friendly
we need spot lights!!
Title: Don't Like Night
Post by: GRUNHERZ on September 15, 2001, 02:36:00 PM
The reason the "night" periods in AH are innacurate and not realistic are:

Far too light. Its much too easy to see everything and orient yourself for even a clear cloudless moonlit night.

Its far too easy and common to have single engine fighter "dayfighter" dogfigts in the night.

The Icons give faaar too much long range info.


Night, if implemented in AH, should be night. It should be dark and impossib;le to dogfight to the same extent it is now.

This current implementation is clearly a gameplay compromise by HTC by giving "night" to the ppl who want it but trying not to neccesarily inconvenience those who wanna dogfight.  So now we have this rediculous "night" feature in AH that allows single engine dayfighters to dogfight largely uniterrupted.
Title: Don't Like Night
Post by: Baine on September 19, 2001, 08:13:00 PM
I don't like night _ but then again I can't fly.
I generally log when the sun goes down.
Title: Don't Like Night
Post by: Naudet on September 20, 2001, 05:19:00 AM
There is only one problem with nights, is the unrealistic daylight u get when u increase u monitor brighness and shut off the light in ur room. Than its as if u fly at daylight.

From the experiences i hae with darkness of the night in AH, i must say, i think every fighter jockey that gets kills against an evading tgt or is even able to follow its movemet when he is farther away than 400 yrds, must be using the monitor brighness to be capable of that. Since i dont like using such cheap tactics i usually log off or hop into a buff for a long range strike when night comes up.
Title: Don't Like Night
Post by: rosco- on September 20, 2001, 07:39:00 AM
If people want to fly around and not be able to find anyone then you can fly in the CT. I think most people could live without it and a lot of people would enjoy themselves a whole lot more without the night.
Title: Don't Like Night
Post by: Zigrat on September 20, 2001, 09:05:00 AM
i would like night in the MA but not really intl we get a night fighter ju88 and mossie.

then take away icons and dot dar for all fighter airplanes at night but leave icons to 1.0k and dot dar out to 5 miles within the front 180 degrees of the ju88 and mossie night fighters.

thatd be coooooooool.
Title: Don't Like Night
Post by: SC-Mutt on September 22, 2001, 02:44:00 AM
Model it with moonglow on water, friendly ashcans on rwys, and most of all, A SWITCH for the interior lights! But as the 'proud' owner of a 17" PROVIEW [gag] monitor, I can't even takeoff and land! Crap, I got the gamma, brt, and contrast up so high the blank screen GLOWS, and It's still too dark to even see my wings! I like the night, But till I can afford a better monitor, A couple more touches of realism might help me survive it  :)

S!
Title: Don't Like Night
Post by: Fury on September 22, 2001, 07:17:00 AM
I like the night.

My problem is that I am doing so much stargazing that I die too much.
Title: Don't Like Night
Post by: Wilbus on September 22, 2001, 07:32:00 AM
I like night alot and HATE Wind layers.
Title: Don't Like Night
Post by: andrewegillott on September 25, 2001, 02:58:00 AM
i personally like the night. i find it's excellent cover for anything. but one thing to add quickly. how about extra perk points for getting a kill at night in a fighter?   :cool:
Title: Don't Like Night
Post by: Spivey on October 07, 2001, 07:34:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by GRUNHERZ:
I hear the buff rutabagas love night because they can still see the ground perfectly from any alt and hit perfectly, plus they are an extra bit harder to kill at night.  Cetrainly the buff rutabagas need this crutch too for at least several hours a day, I mean its soooooooooo difficult to buff in AH.

Judging by your post, you don't have a prob with bombers at night. You have a problem with bombers PERIOD! Well here's a newsflash: It's the only way to counter the numbers advantage. Problem is now bombing is TOTALLY INNEFFECTIVE! Bases auto rebuild SOOOO quickly that bombing is completely useless. I hit fuel at a base then bombed depot right next to it. Fuel was 125% within 10 minutes of dropping it. REDICULOUS! Grun, you may get your wish by default bud. My 2 cents? If you want a shoot-em-up furball arcade game go to the parlor.
Spivey
Title: Don't Like Night
Post by: BOOT on October 09, 2001, 08:37:00 AM
At night I just keep trying to fly to the moon... Dang, it never even gets bigger....

Seriously,  I like the night in AH...  Ship to shore battles etc. look awsome...

It would really be cool to have search lights and ash cans on the runways...

BOOT
Title: Don't Like Night
Post by: Ripsnort on October 09, 2001, 08:38:00 AM
Love it, but then I can overcome any weakness, some can't.  ;)
Title: Don't Like Night
Post by: Staga on October 09, 2001, 09:08:00 AM
Bridges, Alicia
"I Love The Nightlife"

Please don't talk about love tonight.
Please don't talk about sweet love.
Please don't talk about being true and
all the trouble we've been through.
Ah, please don't talk about
all of the plans we had
for fixin' this broken romance.
I want to go where the people dance.
I want some action ...
I want to live!
Action ...
I got so much to give.
I want to give it.
I want to get some too.
Oh, I ...
Ohhh I ...
I love the nightlife,
I got to boogie on the disco 'round,
oh yea.
Oh,
I love the night life,
I got to boogie on the disco 'round, oh yea.
Please don't talk about love tonight.
Your sweet talking
won't make it right.
Love and lies just bring me down
when you've got women all over town.
You can love them all and when you're through,
maybe that'll make, huh,
a man out of you.
I got to go where the people dance.
I want some action ...
I want to live!
Action ...
I got so much to give.
I want to give it.
I want to get some too.
Oh, I ...
Ohhh I ...
I love the nightlife,
I got to boogie on the disco 'round,
oh yea.
Oh, I love the night life,
I got to boogie on the disco 'round,
oh yea.
Oh, I love the night life,
I got to boogie on the disco 'round,
oh yea.
Oh, I love the night life,
I got to boogie on the disco 'round,
oh yea.
I love the night life,
I got to boogie on the disco 'round,
oh yea.
_____________________________ _________

Anyway night is so short and most the time there's enough light to see your opponent.
Title: Don't Like Night
Post by: Ripsnort on October 09, 2001, 09:11:00 AM
ROTFLOL Staga! <S>
Title: Don't Like Night
Post by: Staga on October 10, 2001, 04:52:00 PM
That song is one nice piece of art and fits nicely in this topic  :D
Title: Don't Like Night
Post by: funkedup on October 11, 2001, 11:30:00 AM
And in other news, night continues to SUCK.    :)

At least it's short.   :)

[ 10-11-2001: Message edited by: funkedup ]
Title: Don't Like Night
Post by: Staga on October 11, 2001, 12:34:00 PM
I can make it even shorter:

U sck

<j/k>
Title: Don't Like Night
Post by: funkedup on October 11, 2001, 12:43:00 PM
:D
You don't need the j/k because it's true.

But at least I'm always right.   :)

[ 10-11-2001: Message edited by: funkedup ]
Title: Don't Like Night
Post by: Ripsnort on October 11, 2001, 12:45:00 PM
"Take the weakness that beseiges you and make it your strength".  Zen
Title: Don't Like Night
Post by: Staga on October 11, 2001, 02:12:00 PM
Fnkd next time when night comes to Arena go make some coffee. When it's ready it's already morning in MA.
Night doesn't last too long  :)
Title: Don't Like Night
Post by: vega on October 11, 2001, 07:35:00 PM
Most of us LOVE night!
  :D
Title: Don't Like Night
Post by: funkedup on October 11, 2001, 10:36:00 PM
I've had it.
Going on a hunger strike until night is turned off.
Title: Don't Like Night
Post by: zapkin on October 13, 2001, 10:03:00 AM
no you dont! thats my gig!
Title: Don't Like Night
Post by: Staga on October 13, 2001, 10:36:00 AM
Quote
Originally posted by funkedup:
I've had it.
Going on a hunger strike until night is turned off.


I never liked that guy anyway...
Title: Don't Like Night
Post by: Staga on October 13, 2001, 10:37:00 AM
;)
Title: Don't Like Night
Post by: Solomo on October 14, 2001, 10:48:00 AM
"Me no likee" nite either...I log off. The planes we fly here did not fly at nite.
..in case someone's taking a poll.
I hate the perk plane idea...either give us the plane or don't, we don't need all the points garbage. Just limit the 262 to a feww days a month.
Title: Don't Like Night
Post by: Furious on October 14, 2001, 06:38:00 PM
Solomo,

Many of the planes we fly in AH had night fighter variants.

F.
Title: Don't Like Night
Post by: SKurj on October 14, 2001, 08:48:00 PM
Yes Furious, they needed night variants cuz the day variants were useless +)


SKurj
Title: Don't Like Night
Post by: Citabria on October 14, 2001, 09:34:00 PM
I hate night in AH
Title: Don't Like Night
Post by: funkedup on October 15, 2001, 01:12:00 PM
LOL Staga & Zap  :)
Title: Don't Like Night
Post by: Ripsnort on October 15, 2001, 01:25:00 PM
Reminds me of an old song... ;)

"I love the Knight life, I love to boogie...
Title: Don't Like Night
Post by: jpeg on October 15, 2001, 10:00:00 PM
I love the night, keep it.

Besides its not that long anyways.
Title: Don't Like Night
Post by: J_A_B on October 16, 2001, 12:47:00 AM
Grunherz had it right:

It's not just the "night" itself, but the "dawn" and "dusk" times of the virtual day.   The period of "low visibility" is far too long.

Granted, some people can turn up monitor brightness and turn OFF the lights in their computer room to compensate, but doesn't that defeat the purpose of flying by night??  Perhaps these individuals don't so much like night itself, as they crave the artifical advantage it gives them over many opponents.

J_A_B
Title: Don't Like Night
Post by: Pongo on October 16, 2001, 01:26:00 AM
"Because the night is made for lovers"
Title: Don't Like Night
Post by: moose on October 16, 2001, 02:13:00 AM
i dont mind the night.

when it gets dark, that signals time to go on a low level mossie train raid.