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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: falcon23 on December 20, 2008, 08:41:35 AM
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I have a GA-EP35-Ds3l gigabyte MOBO..I currently have 2 gigs of 1066 Gskill..
Am going to be getting 2/2gig sticks to UG to 4,,probably going with OCZ fatality editions of some sort,inexpensive right now and seems like good ram..
I am Oc'ed average is 3.6 and currently OC'to 3.9 On a wolfdale E8400..
My question is...Do I want to get 800speed RAM or more 1066???Does it matter,and why???
Thanks,
Falcon23 :salute
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You need to match all your ram if I am not mistakin. So if your adding ram you either need to get same model/size as existing or get all new. Are you using XP or Vista. XP will not utilize 4G ram it will recognize 3G. The price of ram is cheap, get the 2(2G) sticks of 1066.
Nerd in the basemnt
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I'd get 2 - 2GB's sticks as opposed to 4 - 1G's.
XP Pro recognizes 3.25GB of my 4GB of http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146789 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146789).
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Yes I will be pulling out these 2/1gig sticks of 1066,and putting them in the drawer.I am looking at getting 2/2 gig sticks for a total of 4g..
I am looking at OCZ..those mushkins are nice masher,but about $10 out of my range.
SO 1066 is the way to go instead of the 800????
falcon23 :salute
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Masherbrum has a good link on newegg but I would get the OCZ Reaper series for that board. Like DrD said don't mix and match ram and 2 x 2 is more stable then 4 x 1. Here is some reaper at 49.00 after rebates. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227289 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227289) its 1066 and will OC to 1600 and beyond on that board. The reason for 1066 over 800 is FSB speed. The faster the FSB, which means more info passing from component to component the faster the system.
With your current OC, your motherboard and the proposed memory (my suggestion or Masherbrum) you will notice an increase in application opening, photoshop improvments, and maybe an increase in FR in some games ( using the 1600 FSB).
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Thanks guys,,I believe I will be going with the OCZ reapers...
ANd if I may tildeth,or anyone else,WHen I look at my CPUZ on ram it says at this OC(3.999)that my ram and FSb are running 5:6..I always heard that one wants that at a 1:1 ratio...DiD I miss something?
Thanks,
Falcon23 :salute
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XP will not utilize 4G ram it will recognize 3G.
64 bit XP will recognize something like 128 Gb of RAM just like 64 bit Vista. 32 bit Vista has the same 4 Gb limitation that 32 bit XP has.
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64 bit XP will recognize something like 128 Gb of RAM just like 64 bit Vista. 32 bit Vista has the same 4 Gb limitation that 32 bit XP has.
Yep, I have the 32 bit and have wondered if buying 64 bit and using the current OS for a 2nd PC would be beneficial.
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Thanks guys,,I believe I will be going with the OCZ reapers...
ANd if I may tildeth,or anyone else,WHen I look at my CPUZ on ram it says at this OC(3.999)that my ram and FSb are running 5:6..I always heard that one wants that at a 1:1 ratio...DiD I miss something?
Thanks,
Falcon23 :salute
Yes 1:1 is whats also called Linked and Synced (CPU and Memory), but 5:6 is almost 1:1. If your system is stable at this setting you could try in your BIOS getting it to 1:1 but you may have to adjust all the ram settings to get there. I personally would not do it, not worth the time and aggravation, and the system performance increase would be null.
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Yep, I have the 32 bit and have wondered if buying 64 bit and using the current OS for a 2nd PC would be beneficial.
Masherbrum what apps do you run that your in need of additional memory? Most people are good to go with 4gb unless your rendering, doing huge calculations, video editing. Just curious.
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HERE are some readings from my current CPUZ program
(http://i325.photobucket.com/albums/k393/FALCON23_album/CPUZ.jpg)
This is CPU and FSB speed
Next
(http://i325.photobucket.com/albums/k393/FALCON23_album/memorytimings.jpg)
And NEXT...
(http://i325.photobucket.com/albums/k393/FALCON23_album/SPD.jpg)
How does everything look???
Thanks,
Falcon23
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The voltage on the processor is a little higher then I like to see it. Can you get the same GHz but at 1.325 which is a ceiling I think is safe. But the settings are what they are. With the new memory you should get better timings and this mem is rated to 2.1 volts so you may see 1800 FSB and be able to push your processor a little more but again the voltages on the CPU are my only concern.
What type of cooling are you using? What HSF combination. On air I always use OCZ's Vendetta 2. It has (in benchmarking) out performed buy as much as 30c (stock HSF) and averages about 8c lower then anything else out there on air (out of the box). Also BenchMark reviews has the Vendetta 2 as its 2008 HSF of the year with comparisons to the competition available along with Graphs for the reading impaired. Source http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=259&Itemid=38&limit=1&limitstart=1 (http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=259&Itemid=38&limit=1&limitstart=1)
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Also here is charts showing the suggested Ram compairing it to Crucial and Corsair Dominator. The suggested ram is faster in all aspects. http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=245&Itemid=67&limit=1&limitstart=4 (http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=245&Itemid=67&limit=1&limitstart=4)
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For a quick reply deth...The Vdroop on this board is UN-godly..
I have it set at 1.45000v in BIOS,just to get what you see..I will try dropping it down a notch or 2 on voltages..
I am using a HUGE HSW/fan..forget the name of it...
Falcon23
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Hey Tildeath, I have my vcore set at 1.355 and am running oc at 4.06 ghz. Is that voltage too high? I'm using an E8500.
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For a quick reply deth...The Vdroop on this board is UN-godly..
I have it set at 1.45000v in BIOS,just to get what you see..I will try dropping it down a notch or 2 on voltages..
I am using a HUGE HSW/fan..forget the name of it...
Falcon23
Yea I am aware, been playing with that board for a few days... its a OC memory monster.
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Hey Tildeath, I have my vcore set at 1.355 and am running oc at 4.06 ghz. Is that voltage too high? I'm using an E8500.
1.325 is the most I would throw at any processor unless the specs are higher on it, or I was looking for some benchmark scores. But for a 24/7 1.325 is my limit (personal preference).
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When I had my E6750 OC'd to a mild 3.2 Gb I couldn't get it stable under 1.3625 V. As long as the temps are staying comfortable it should be ok but you need to run Orthos or Prime95 for a while to make sure that's the case.
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A bit off topic,but whats opinions on this card?? for $90..Better than the geforce 8600GT I currently have?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102803&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL121808&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL121808-_-DesktopGraphicsVideoCards-_-LH1B-_-14102803
Falcon23 :salute
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When I had my E6750 OC'd to a mild 3.2 Gb I couldn't get it stable under 1.3625 V. As long as the temps are staying comfortable it should be ok but you need to run Orthos or Prime95 for a while to make sure that's the case.
A lot has to do with the board. The one he has mas tons of controls and its an X45 Chipset. Tons of features you don't find in most BIOS. My personal preference is nothing over 1.325 for a 24/7 machine, but it does depend on CPU voltage ratings. If I am shooting for some really high benchmarks I do go above my rule but it is not for 24/7 machine. I do my think and go back to normal settings.
For instance a Q6600 max volts from Intel on that chip is 1.325 but to get 4.6GHz our of it with a FSB over 2100 and scores in the 22 - 23 range I am a little under 1.4volts to the core but other CPU voltages are manually adjusted also along with the microvolts to the chipset and the relation voltages of the CPU to the chipset (not 24/7 safe).
Over 90% of my OCs are on Quads and they get real freaky with to much voltage. But most of them OC real well without to much pushed to them.
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A bit off topic,but whats opinions on this card?? for $90..Better than the geforce 8600GT I currently have?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102803&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL121808&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL121808-_-DesktopGraphicsVideoCards-_-LH1B-_-14102803
Falcon23 :salute
Don't make any video card purchases jsut yet. Wait until next month around the 3rd week... some new things are being released and card prices will drop.
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Dont know if I can wait.My son needs my VC,and so now I need one..cant really wait a month....
Falcon23 :salute
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That should be a better card.
<--- EVGA 780i but that was 2-3 BIOS releases ago when I had it OC'd. It might be able to run lower V now but I haven't gotten back to trying it again.
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A bit off topic,but whats opinions on this card?? for $90..Better than the geforce 8600GT I currently have?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102803&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL121808&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL121808-_-DesktopGraphicsVideoCards-_-LH1B-_-14102803
Falcon23 :salute
Falcon, I don't know about that card, whether it is good or bad. If I was buying new I would look at the 4850 or step back to the 3850 or 3870. Those latter cards are cheap right now. Real cheap and seem to do a good job. Just a few months ago they were $200 and up. I think you can get one now for as low as $70.00.
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I think the 4850 is a good investment since he has a newer processor (especially an OC'd E8400). I'm sure he plays other games. Don't want to hold the PC back.
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I think the 4850 is a good investment since he has a newer processor (especially an OC'd E8400). I'm sure he plays other games. Don't want to hold the PC back.
Well that is the direction I would go. Still though I was trying to stay under $100.
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The new 4830 is awesome for the money. It can be overclocked hard. I bought one for my kids computer and it's been able to take everything I've thrown at it with no problems.
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Death,how goes the OC on the RAM on that GA-EP35ds3l MOBO..I think you mentioned that in an earlier post..
Waiting for some ideas.. :O
Falcon23