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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: opposum on December 27, 2008, 10:48:29 AM
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I went to see Valkyrie last night, I thought it was pretty good, it seemed historically accurate to me.
did anyone else see it?
I was wondering if it was truly historically accurate and not fixed up like a lot of movies,
thanks,
opposum
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I want to see it, haven't yet.
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Wrong forum, so this will get moved. But no, I hav't seen it yet. Heard that Tom Cruise shouldn't have done that film, he was terrible.
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Tom Cruise shouldn't have done that film, he was terrible.
Don't you be dissin' Maverick :mad:
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Aint seen it yet and its hard to believe the war coulda been finished much sooner if the second bundle of explosives had been armed and the sachel with the explosives was placed on the inside of the table leg instead of the outside a matter of a few inches could have saved alotta lives.
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Don't you be dissin' Maverick :mad:
:lol
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Maverick was actually pretty good in it, Eurotrash internet hype is no way to judge a film or the performance of it's actors.
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Eurotrash
:furious
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:furious
I didn't say metrosexual Eurotrash!
;)
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I'm going to watch it tonight with my Girlfriend for some reason she wants to see it but thats ok I'm glad. I'll report to you if it seems accurate too :)
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Don't you be dissin' Maverick :mad:
Maverick?! The guy who couldnt shake an A-4 while in an F-14? THAT Maverick?!
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Maverick?! The guy who couldnt shake an A-4 while in an F-14? THAT Maverick?!
:lol
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I enjoyed South Park's ripping on Tom Cruise, and I enjoyed the Last Samurai. I think I'll see Valkyrie, too.
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Maverick?! The guy who couldnt shake an A-4 while in an F-14? THAT Maverick?!
No....the Maverick played by James Garner back in the late 50's :rofl
Indeed, The Last Samurai was an excellent flick.
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Saw Valkyrie on Christmas Day. Must say that I was surprised at how well the movie was done. The onyl thing I had an issue was with the use of a Spanish built 109 flying top cover with a 109 of proper vintage. The Buchon engined 109 just didnt look right. Again though, not a bad movie.
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I just got home from watching it and i loved it. Most historically accurate World War 2 movie I've seen.
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Saw it yesterday with the wife. I recommend it. Loved the entire movie up to the point when Maverick attempts to propel himself into Martyrdom just before execution. Kinda hokey. Can't imagine someone as supposedly hardcore as Von Stoffel screaming like a lunatic.(imo)
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I went to see Valkyrie last night, I thought it was pretty good, it seemed historically accurate to me.
did anyone else see it?
I was wondering if it was truly historically accurate and not fixed up like a lot of movies,
thanks,
opposum
I seen it. It was good i think.
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just got back from the theater, pretty cool movie, not sure how historically acurate it was (not going to spoil the plot for others) visually it looked really nice and historical, there were details in the plot i don't think actually happened... All in all very cool movie, Tom Cruise was horribly miscast though... but i managed to look past that
it was entertaining, i suggest it for everyone
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just got back from the theater, pretty cool movie, not sure how historically acurate it was (not going to spoil the plot for others) visually it looked really nice and historical, there were details in the plot i don't think actually happened... All in all very cool movie, Tom Cruise was horribly miscast though... but i managed to look past that
it was entertaining, i suggest it for everyone
Thanks for not spoiling the plot for us. I'm just assuming that the plot to kill Hitler went off exactly as planned, right? ;-)
-Llama
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Thanks for not spoiling the plot for us. I'm just assuming that the plot to kill Hitler went off exactly as planned, right? ;-)
-Llama
Yup, war ended in July of '44. ;)
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Here's your sign!
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Nah, just trading sarcastic witticisms. :)
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Ya want history and accuracy, read a book. Don't go to some hollywierd box office entertainment fantasy and expect history. :huh
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Ya want history and accuracy, read a book. Don't go to some hollywierd box office entertainment fantasy and expect history. :huh
yeah I know, it was still an entertaining movie, if you can look past Tom Cruise being a crazy scientologist
speaking of scientology, their world headquarters are in clearwater FL and driving past that place is creepy, i swear it's a cult, they all dress the same....
anywho cool movie, just saw the history channel show on the actual events and I was right, some of the plot was hollywood-ized, but all in all decently close to the actual events, it was cool, go see, you will all enjoy
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Ya want history and accuracy, read a book. Don't go to some hollywierd box office entertainment fantasy and expect history. :huh
And we can all sit around a crackling fire and read to one another :) OOOohhhh, How cozy :)
Thanks for not spoiling the plot for us. I'm just assuming that the plot to kill Hitler went off exactly as planned, right? ;-)
-Llama
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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I saw the movie.
Whatever you think of Cruise (I thought he did well), the movie has a lot of talented supporting actors. Historical accuracy is hard to judge as I'm not an expert on Hitler assassination plots, but as a piece of semi-historical entertainment the movie is good, though not excellent (few movies reach that mark). I thought the story could have benefited from more character development for Staufenberg. It begins in Africa in early '43, so you don't have any sense of the character's origins, what kind of man he is, where he grew up, etc. The Merlin-engined 109 in the hangar is kind of a pity, but what are ya gonna do? For that matter, it's not a movie to see if you're one of those that love to identify military hardware.
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I saw the movie.
Whatever you think of Cruise (I thought he did well), the movie has a lot of talented supporting actors. Historical accuracy is hard to judge as I'm not an expert on Hitler assassination plots, but as a piece of semi-historical entertainment the movie is good, though not excellent (few movies reach that mark). I thought the story could have benefited from more character development for Staufenberg. It begins in Africa in early '43, so you don't have any sense of the character's origins, what kind of man he is, where he grew up, etc. The Merlin-engined 109 in the hangar is kind of a pity, but what are ya gonna do? For that matter, it's not a movie to see if you're one of those that love to identify military hardware.
keep checking the history channels listings, they did a really good show on the plot and the making of the movie, really detailed, I loved it
it happened to be on tv 10 minutes after I got home from the theater, the movie did a pretty good job with just some minor embelishments, but thats to be expected
some of the scenes outside of the war ministry were actually shot on location in Berlin.
My complaint with the movie was the varying accents, some people had German accents, some American and some British, Cruise did do good but I still think there could have been someone else.
oh yeah and how can you tell a merlin 109 from a regular one?
Oh yeah and what was with Hitlers plane being covered by 2 109s? Shouldn't there like 30 of them?
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Oh yeah and what was with Hitlers plane being covered by 2 109s? Shouldn't there like 30 of them?
I have not seen the movie but... If you have ever covered a bomber you would realize that you cant sit on top of it to cover it.
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This is a Merlin-engined 109:
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1436/926831542_c32f99049b.jpg)
This one has/had a real Daimler-Benz:
(http://www.taphilo.com/Photo/Pictures/BF109-Duxford.jpg)
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That first one looks like the lovechild of a 109 and a P-40.
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gotcha big difference between the two, didn't really notice that in the movie (i wasn't really paying attention that closely to detail, i was just like, oh cool some 109s) , you said that was the one sitting in the hanger? I could have sworn I saw at least one of the damiler benz ones in the movie, maybe im wrong, i just recall seeing that big old air intake pipe or what ever that cylindrical thing is coming out of the side of the engine
That first one looks like the lovechild of a 109 and a P-40.
lol yeah, i think that thing looks more like a p 40 than a 109. I'm sure they just found whatever 109's they could that were still in flying condition
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In the movie, one of the two escorts with the Ju-52s has an original DB engine, so far as could tell.
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(I really wish for a "delete" button)
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Just watched the movie on netflix. I think it succeeded as a film. I was pleased with the attention to detail of the nazi party beauracracy and minutiae. Any historical impresicion, and i dont know that there is any, can be forgiven. Because the point of the film can be summed up by one line in the film, "Let's show the world that we are not all like him(hitler)." I'll admit, I did not know that there was a monument in Germany honoring the wwii german resistance, and I bet I wasnt the only one.
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(http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100102171045/asdf/images/1/1c/Necro2.jpg)
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I liked the movie. I didn't know much of the history of it to know if there are historical inaccuracies. Movies about historical events usually have lots of historical inaccuracies, but I don't mind that unless the stuff they change makes it a worse movie instead of a better one (like the changes made to Enemy At the Gates, for example).
Yes, the post reopened this old topic, but the topic is about the movie he saw, so it seems the appropriate topic to me.
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Just watched the movie on netflix. I think it succeeded as a film. I was pleased with the attention to detail of the nazi party beauracracy and minutiae. Any historical impresicion, and i dont know that there is any, can be forgiven. Because the point of the film can be summed up by one line in the film, "Let's show the world that we are not all like him(hitler)." I'll admit, I did not know that there was a monument in Germany honoring the wwii german resistance, and I bet I wasnt the only one.
gibberish!
The officer class was kissing Adolf Hitler's butt when they were winning against the disorganised allies when the allies got organised and ut went pear shaped for the Germans they turned into turncoats, Staffenburg was a traiter.
The German army committed more genocides than the SS
The film is gibberish like that film the Sound of music, you cant sing and dance while climbing mountains :old:
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The JU-52 was worth the price of the ticket alone. I cant remember, its been years, but the P40s that strafed him in the beginning? Were they real or models?
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The film is gibberish like that film the Sound of music, you cant sing and dance while climbing mountains :old:
Dont worry, their escape path brings them strait to Berchtesgaden, not exactly the best place to avoid Nazi's. :devil
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:rofl
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No....the Maverick played by James Garner back in the late 50's :rofl
great show...loved it :aok ...
after that the Wild Wild West... but that would be off topic :lol
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IBTL!