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Title: Piepers blunder, and apologie.
Post by: Pieper on December 27, 2008, 06:09:55 PM
<S> fellow AHII players.......

I'll make this short and sweet, on Christmas night I was playing very late and drinking a little. Somehow a descussion came up on channel 200, that I rarely monitor, and I found myself in a heated argument with another player. This was a political argument that I have been warned before not to engage in, but somehow I found myself in the middle of it. I would just like to apologize for the comments I made and the abreviated insults in those comments. The other individual should know who he is. Also to the moderator who muted me for two hours......I probably deserve worse, but with this appology I hope to spare myself from further consequinces. I realize that some discussions are inappropriate in the game, and I will stay out of them in the future. The Biggest apology I owe is to the rest of the community, I'm sorry you had to see me rant about something inconsequential to the game.

<S> Pieper
Title: Re: Piepers blunder, and apologie.
Post by: Masherbrum on December 27, 2008, 06:33:10 PM
You've changed over the last four years. 
Title: Re: Piepers blunder, and apologie.
Post by: Pieper on December 27, 2008, 07:01:58 PM
Alot has changed in my life and in this world over the last four years Karaya. Although I have been effected greatly by these changes, It's slill no excuse for my behavior, or anybody elses, in a game. We're here to have fun, and I don't want to take that away from anyone anymore.

<S> Pieper
Title: Re: Piepers blunder, and apologie.
Post by: Getback on December 27, 2008, 07:32:09 PM
It happens Pieper. Never known you to do but the right thing.
Title: Re: Piepers blunder, and apologie.
Post by: CAP1 on December 27, 2008, 07:37:49 PM
<S> fellow AHII players.......

I'll make this short and sweet, on Christmas night I was playing very late and drinking a little. Somehow a descussion came up on channel 200, that I rarely monitor, and I found myself in a heated argument with another player. This was a political argument that I have been warned before not to engage in, but somehow I found myself in the middle of it. I would just like to apologize for the comments I made and the abreviated insults in those comments. The other individual should know who he is. Also to the moderator who muted me for two hours......I probably deserve worse, but with this appology I hope to spare myself from further consequinces. I realize that some discussions are inappropriate in the game, and I will stay out of them in the future. The Biggest apology I owe is to the rest of the community, I'm sorry you had to see me rant about something inconsequential to the game.

<S> Pieper

it's good to see someone owning up like this.

 don't stop monitoring 200 though. it can serve a useful purpose. you can help others, or get help through it. it's about the only reason i keep it opened when i'm flying.
Title: Re: Piepers blunder, and apologie.
Post by: Banshee7 on December 27, 2008, 07:58:45 PM
I think you should be punished for politics in game like you are on the boards
Title: Re: Piepers blunder, and apologie.
Post by: TheflyingElk on December 27, 2008, 08:09:19 PM
Lighten up Banshee7, I saw the exchange no big deal, let it die quietly, Its just text, not like you lost money or family dog :frown:
Title: Re: Piepers blunder, and apologie.
Post by: texasmom on December 27, 2008, 08:11:20 PM
Hi Pieper  :) Hope you had a Merry Christmas.
Title: Re: Piepers blunder, and apologie.
Post by: Banshee7 on December 27, 2008, 08:26:45 PM
Lighten up Banshee7, I saw the exchange no big deal, let it die quietly, Its just text, not like you lost money or family dog :frown:

I wasn't saying "you" as in Pieper should.  Was making a generalization that people who discuss politics in game should be punished.  Ig they ban it from one place, ban it from the other as well.
Title: Re: Piepers blunder, and apologie.
Post by: 1pLUs44 on December 27, 2008, 08:29:26 PM
<S> fellow AHII players.......

I'll make this short and sweet, on Christmas night I was playing very late and drinking a little. Somehow a descussion came up on channel 200, that I rarely monitor, and I found myself in a heated argument with another player. This was a political argument that I have been warned before not to engage in, but somehow I found myself in the middle of it. I would just like to apologize for the comments I made and the abreviated insults in those comments. The other individual should know who he is. Also to the moderator who muted me for two hours......I probably deserve worse, but with this appology I hope to spare myself from further consequinces. I realize that some discussions are inappropriate in the game, and I will stay out of them in the future. The Biggest apology I owe is to the rest of the community, I'm sorry you had to see me rant about something inconsequential to the game.

<S> Pieper

 :salute :salute

Pieper, it was mainly me and you. I probably shoulda just not got into it man, but hell, I did, sorry to everyone who saw, and those who didn't squelch me ( :lol )

(You are my favorite person in AHII to argue with, so you're a favorite :)  )

~1pLUs44
Title: Re: Piepers blunder, and apologie.
Post by: TheflyingElk on December 27, 2008, 08:30:32 PM
Punished for talking politics Hmmmmmm sounds like what we have young men and women fighting against in Iraq and Afghanistan, true it is only a game but how far do we take it? Banning folks for Bad mouthing Shawks  Mullet? :cool:
Title: Re: Piepers blunder, and apologie.
Post by: pervert on December 27, 2008, 08:50:07 PM
I've only ever had one experience with Pieper and I came away thinking the guy was a real idiot, although its good too see him showing remorse for his actions well done  :salute
Title: Re: Piepers blunder, and apologie.
Post by: Pieper on December 27, 2008, 09:13:33 PM
1Plus44.......Thats correct.....TY for owning up to the other side of it.....It was stupid for us to keep it going that long.



<S> sir........Pieper
Title: Re: Piepers blunder, and apologie.
Post by: AApache on December 28, 2008, 02:32:42 AM
It's ashamed it has to come to this. If only the parties involved would stop to think for one second before spewing a load of politically or etnic foolishness on to the public transmit channel. Everyone is entitled to his or her opinion but when it is conveyed at the expense of other players in the game who may be under age and hear or read the insults. There are many diferent types of players in the game, Jewish, arabic, euoropean, gay, afro-american, spanish,etc. Who is to say who is right or who's views are correct? We each have an inherant right to express and discuss in a mature and respectful manner what ever it is we want to get off of our chest. Yes we each pay our monthly fee and should be allowed to discuss topics of our choosing but as an adult not a 14 year old pre-pubecent middle schooler hell bent on insulting and degrading one another. I watched someone who I will not name disband his entire squad on election night and switch countries just over a heated discuision on country channel. It's definetly a touchy red-flag of a topic here in the HTC community. Piep don't sweat it you are not the first to be devoured by that BEAST!  :salute   Hell bro we are all grown men here and it's a "FREE" country so we should be able to say what we like, just have to keep 3 words in mind.. use some tact ! Take care :salute
Title: Re: Piepers blunder, and apologie.
Post by: RoGenT on December 28, 2008, 03:40:58 AM
I wasn't there but like the old saying, to error at times is human.
Title: Re: Piepers blunder, and apologie.
Post by: Scherf on December 28, 2008, 04:20:51 AM
Are we supposed to be reminded of someone whose name IRL was Pieper?
Title: Re: Piepers blunder, and apologie.
Post by: Ghosth on December 28, 2008, 07:02:31 AM
Everyone makes mistakes. Mark of a true man is to own up to them and make it right.

<S>
Title: Re: Piepers blunder, and apologie.
Post by: SkyRock on December 28, 2008, 12:56:59 PM
<S> Pieper  I quit drinking the 23 of  December.  25 years of binging a couple nights a week put me in this position too many times.  I hope you find the strength to quit....some of us aren't wired to stop after a reasonable amount...please don't take this as criticism, it is hope.

 :salute

Mark
Title: Re: Piepers blunder, and apologie.
Post by: BiPoLaR on December 28, 2008, 11:26:39 PM
<S> Pieper  I quit drinking the 23 of  December.  25 years of binging a couple nights a week put me in this position too many times.  I hope you find the strength to quit....some of us aren't wired to stop after a reasonable amount...please don't take this as criticism, it is hope.

 :salute

Mark
damn quitter
i like my booze.(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b318/patje1/thdrunksmileys.gif)

on subject: my head has been on the chopping block for some time now.
oh well it is what it is. i dont really care  :aok
Title: Re: Piepers blunder, and apologie.
Post by: trigger2 on December 29, 2008, 04:35:13 PM
Everyone makes mistakes. Mark of a true man is to own up to them and make it right.

<S>

I second that one.
Miss uppin with you Pieper, one of the few things I miss about AHII...
Title: Re: Piepers blunder, and apologie.
Post by: Getback on December 29, 2008, 04:59:25 PM
<S> Pieper  I quit drinking the 23 of  December.  25 years of binging a couple nights a week put me in this position too many times.  I hope you find the strength to quit....some of us aren't wired to stop after a reasonable amount...please don't take this as criticism, it is hope.

 :salute

Mark

Congrats Skyrock. Must be why I saw you as Bishops the other day. Seems you've come to your senses.  :rofl :rofl Only kidding. Good luck with that.  :salute
Title: Re: Piepers blunder, and apologie.
Post by: shreck on December 29, 2008, 06:54:10 PM
<S> Pieper  I quit drinking the 23 of  December.  25 years of binging a couple nights a week put me in this position too many times.  I hope you find the strength to quit....some of us aren't wired to stop after a reasonable amount...please don't take this as criticism, it is hope.

 :salute

Mark

A nicer, gentler S/R ------>  :huh <  Hmm, maybe more folks will join your missions now !   ;)   I hope you got new superhero tights and cape to go with the new attitude  :aok--------> JK < If you can kick any addiction, then I say WTFG. Remember, those who quit only to start up again, all along reflecting that "they had quit for such and such amount of time"-----------> never really quit in the 1st place, and were OWNED by their petty addiction  :aok Good luck with it, it's a much bigger deal then most people have the courage to admit------> <S>
Title: Re: Piepers blunder, and apologie.
Post by: SkyRock on December 30, 2008, 10:07:38 AM
A nicer, gentler S/R ------>  :huh <  Hmm, maybe more folks will join your missions now !   ;)   I hope you got new superhero tights and cape to go with the new attitude  :aok--------> JK < If you can kick any addiction, then I say WTFG. Remember, those who quit only to start up again, all along reflecting that "they had quit for such and such amount of time"-----------> never really quit in the 1st place, and were OWNED by their petty addiction  :aok Good luck with it, it's a much bigger deal then most people have the courage to admit------> <S>
yup, a very big deal...it consumed a great part of my life.....and lets not even get started with the relationship, legal, and health problems and so fourth.  Thanks.


Mark
Title: Re: Piepers blunder, and apologie.
Post by: shreck on January 02, 2009, 12:20:56 PM
yup, a very big deal...it consumed a great part of my life.....and lets not even get started with the relationship, legal, and health problems and so fourth.  Thanks.


Mark

Yup! I feel that brother! Changing your situation has nothing to do with luck, only willpower and desire!! I wish all the best for you while you scale this mountain!  :salute
Title: Re: Piepers blunder, and apologie.
Post by: SlapShot on January 02, 2009, 12:38:37 PM
<S> Pieper  I quit drinking the 23 of  December.  25 years of binging a couple nights a week put me in this position too many times.  I hope you find the strength to quit....some of us aren't wired to stop after a reasonable amount...please don't take this as criticism, it is hope.

 :salute

Mark

I can't begin to tell you how great it is to hear that SR. In my own way, I was worried about you, and I have always wanted to make a "comment" but didn't because I really don't "know" or "knew" you enough to go that far and if the "comment" would be taken as a gesture of concern. It's a touchy subject at best.

It's a tough "row to hoe" ... but the rewards are so worth it ... god bless and all the best.
Title: Re: Piepers blunder, and apologie.
Post by: Patches1 on January 02, 2009, 12:59:03 PM
Skyrock....

My very first concious meeting with an alcohol addiction was with my 7th Grade Social Studies teacher. He was a fantastic individual who made the past come to life in the classroom...until his Father died...and I saw him once take a swig after class...and I really didn't understand it...and he then disappeared from our school. That summer, I found that he only lived 3 blocks from me, and I went to visit him and found that Teachers are really something other than what students think they are.

<S> to Mr. Silverthorn who first taught me about life's addictions, and the saddness that can change lives.  <S> to you, SkyRock, for admitting yours.



Title: Re: Piepers blunder, and apologie.
Post by: Bosco123 on January 02, 2009, 04:31:48 PM
I made a mistake a couple of days ago, and I already regret it. I was fighting a guy, and all he would do is pick HO and run. So I asked him to DA, and he tells me to up a spit5, a plane that he flys more often than me, and probably can beat me in it. I refused telling him to pick a diffrent spit, so he picks a spixteen. Another plane, that he flys more often than me. So he kills me twice and he starts bragging about it, no big deal. I asked him to fly a plane that I like to fly, then he told me that if I killed him in the MA or DA, then I would get to fly the plane that I want to fly. That's when I told him to go f*** himself and he can take the deal and shove it up his a**. I squelched him, and my life went.

I kind of feel bad about it now, knowing that I shouldn't have done it, but at the time, like most people who are angry, they feel, that they are right. So I just want to aplogize to the guy that I got pizzed off at, I know that you read the forums. But like I said buddy, you get no respect from me, you didn't give me any, so I'm not giving you any.
Title: Re: Piepers blunder, and apologie.
Post by: SlapShot on January 02, 2009, 08:53:01 PM
I made a mistake a couple of days ago, and I already regret it. I was fighting a guy, and all he would do is pick HO and run. So I asked him to DA, and he tells me to up a spit5, a plane that he flys more often than me, and probably can beat me in it. I refused telling him to pick a diffrent spit, so he picks a spixteen. Another plane, that he flys more often than me. So he kills me twice and he starts bragging about it, no big deal. I asked him to fly a plane that I like to fly, then he told me that if I killed him in the MA or DA, then I would get to fly the plane that I want to fly. That's when I told him to go f*** himself and he can take the deal and shove it up his a**. I squelched him, and my life went.

I kind of feel bad about it now, knowing that I shouldn't have done it, but at the time, like most people who are angry, they feel, that they are right. So I just want to aplogize to the guy that I got pizzed off at, I know that you read the forums. But like I said buddy, you get no respect from me, you didn't give me any, so I'm not giving you any.

That was an apology ? ...  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Piepers blunder, and apologie.
Post by: Getback on January 03, 2009, 02:59:35 AM
I made a mistake a couple of days ago, and I already regret it. I was fighting a guy, and all he would do is pick HO and run. So I asked him to DA, and he tells me to up a spit5, a plane that he flys more often than me, and probably can beat me in it. I refused telling him to pick a diffrent spit, so he picks a spixteen. Another plane, that he flys more often than me. So he kills me twice and he starts bragging about it, no big deal. I asked him to fly a plane that I like to fly, then he told me that if I killed him in the MA or DA, then I would get to fly the plane that I want to fly. That's when I told him to go f*** himself and he can take the deal and shove it up his a**. I squelched him, and my life went.

I kind of feel bad about it now, knowing that I shouldn't have done it, but at the time, like most people who are angry, they feel, that they are right. So I just want to aplogize to the guy that I got pizzed off at, I know that you read the forums. But like I said buddy, you get no respect from me, you didn't give me any, so I'm not giving you any.

Can't say I ever been there at least to that level. But I have sure eaten crow before. Much more than I like to admit. Let the healing begin.