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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: TilDeath on December 29, 2008, 11:04:35 PM
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Here is a rating of Eset's NOD32 Suite which I have reccomended here to numerious forum users. There is also a link to the whole article, see how your antivirus compairs to NOD32
Link http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/protect_your_pc_from_guys_like_this?page=0%2C0 (http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/protect_your_pc_from_guys_like_this?page=0%2C0)
Article about NOD32 by Paul Lilly
"Independent test labs consistently rank ESET’s Nod32 antivirus program as one of the top performers, so how has company gone about improving its product? For starters, the Smart Security suite builds on Nod32’s core by stuffing a personal firewall, antispyware module, web access protection, and spam controls into a tidy 22MB package. But that’s just the beginning.
From first click to finish, you’ll be up and running in less than a minute with no reboot required. The default settings will have you ready to romp around the web, but should you decide to dive into the interface’s advanced section, you’ll find a truckload of options at your disposal in plain English.
In addition to scouring your local drives, the real-time file protection homes in on removable media and network drives too. And when it comes to safeguarding your email, if you’re not using Outlook, simply expand the POP3 tree and put a checkmark next to your email client of choice, or click the Add button if you don’t see it listed. It doesn’t get any easier than this.
Parental units and IT admins alike will appreciate the ability to block specific web addresses, and support for wildcard entries save you the time of inputting every subdomain. Once you have everything configured, export your settings to an XML file for effortless configuration of your entire home or work network.
Given the bevy of options and stellar track record, we were determined to uncover an Achilles’ heel, but we just couldn’t find one. ESET’s Smart Security thwarted our attempts to download infected files, making the scant 7 minutes and 54 seconds it took to scan our system feel as though we were just going through the motions.
Only the lack of identity protection and the inability to create a rescue disk prevent this from being the perfect package. As it stands, it will have to settle for near-perfect.
Verdict: 9"
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I've just installed Norton AntiVirus 2009 Gaming Edition. Over the years I've had a love-hate relationship with Norton. It was good stuff, then became so bloated and intrusive it drove me nuts. So I've tried Trend Micro (pretty good) and McAfee (bad).
So why back to Norton and a "Gamer" product that probably is the same as their regular AV but tacks on $10 for the "gamer" tag?
Well, they actually seem to have thought it through. Symantec must have hired some engineers who grew up gaming and have now graduated with EE software degrees! It's very light weight. It doen't pop up crap all the time reminding you or alerting you of stuff. It auto detects when you are in Full Screen mode (gaming or watching a movie) and disables most all the AV functions during that time. No scans, no updates, only two processes running while you're gaming.
So far I'm very impressed with it.
See http://shop.symantecstore.com/store/symnahho/en_US/DisplayProductDetailsPage/productID.108125400/pgm.6037100/ThemeID.106300/Currency.USD (http://shop.symantecstore.com/store/symnahho/en_US/DisplayProductDetailsPage/productID.108125400/pgm.6037100/ThemeID.106300/Currency.USD)
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I've uninstalled all virus protection on my PCs through the years. I've used Norton and McAfee and they've both been a problem.
If anyone uses the Norton gaming version would you give me a heads up please!
Thanks
Hajo
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I'm almost done with the ESET Smart Security suite 30 day free trial.
I'll be getting the 2 year subscription. Leaving it ALL ON while gaming is a plus and has not a single negative effect on the games.
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I'm almost done with the ESET Smart Security suite 30 day free trial.
I'll be getting the 2 year subscription. Leaving it ALL ON while gaming is a plus and has not a single negative effect on the games.
I'm 2 weeks or so into mine, trying to decide on the version with firewall or not, as I can't have a router in front of my dialup box, only behind it
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I never noticed any interference with AH from NOD32 ver 2.x; it even seemed to wait until I stopped the game to update definitions (or at least it waited to tell me). NOD32 ver 3, however, will update it's definitions while I'm playing and even pop up a notice which ghosts through to the AH screen. It's a tiny bit annoying, but I don't notice any serious warps etc.
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I never noticed any interference with AH from NOD32 ver 2.x; it even seemed to wait until I stopped the game to update definitions (or at least it waited to tell me). NOD32 ver 3, however, will update it's definitions while I'm playing and even pop up a notice which ghosts through to the AH screen. It's a tiny bit annoying, but I don't notice any serious warps etc.
I like that the Definitions are updated a few times a day rather then once a week. Virus out today they generally have a block for it that day. Don't have to be a week with your pants down!
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I'm using Kaspersky 7.0 and am really happy with it.
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I'm almost done with the ESET Smart Security suite 30 day free trial.
I'll be getting the 2 year subscription. Leaving it ALL ON while gaming is a plus and has not a single negative effect on the games.
Same here Karaya...I've had it close to 2 years and it's one of the best out there for me. No effect on my games either.
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I'm using Kaspersky 7.0 and am really happy with it.
One of the most hacked AV out there next to Norton. Used to use Kaspersky then tried the ESET many moons ago, and the ESET found 27 infiltrations that Kaspersky didn't even notice or warn me about! I will stick with the NOD32 and stay safer IMHO
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Heh I don't use AV at all but scan with Nod32 from time to time. If I would find a single alert I would reformat and reinstall.
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ESET here for several years now - all good - leave it on while in AH
I think you can set when the app updates - mine does it at 3am every night
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I use McAfee (now free through Comcast) but I'm behind a router so I just leave everything turned off all the time. I update definitions twice a week and scan once a week manually. I've been using it this way for years and have never had a problem.
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Just moved my mother and sister over to ESET after they were whining about how many times McAfee was messing up settings or always asking for something. They both did the antivirus only setup. I have that as well but may be upgrading to the full security set version.
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Definitely NOD32. McAfee are wierd, their corporate AV is the most awesome product out there, but their retail product blows giant goat balls.
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Symantec seemed to cut performance in half.
Went with Trend Micro Internet Protection Pro and it not only scan well, it optimizes and cleans up good too. I have it on my gaming PC and Vista laptop.
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I'm behind a router on a cable modem, so I don't use a software firewall. For A-V I've moved over the years from Norton to Avast and now to NOD32. Since my poor ol' machine runs a mere single-core Prescott P4, I always shut down everything I can, including anti-virus, before taking to the virtual skies. Anyway, I'm very happy with NOD32 so far.
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I started out with Norton CE, then migrated to AVG Free, then used AVG Pro for a while, and then tasted the 30-day trial of NOD32.
I won't be returning any time soon.
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I started out with Norton CE, then migrated to AVG Free, then used AVG Pro for a while, and then tasted the 30-day trial of NOD32.
I won't be returning any time soon.
I signed up for 2 years of the Smart Security, this past Saturday. I too started with Norton Systems works, went to DSL and started with ZA Pro.
This is the best decision I've made in years.
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Webroot :aok
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I really like the Computer Associates Internet Security Suite. I use to work for one of those Geek companies and would use CA to clean up machines, that McAfee and Norton allowed to get infested.
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If I'm not mistaken, the CA suite is a port of Zone Alarm Internet Security Suite. My IP provides a free version but Ive always used the ZAISS and I can get a 3 computer version for about $20.
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I'm behind a router on a cable modem, so I don't use a software firewall. For A-V I've moved over the years from Norton to Avast and now to NOD32. Since my poor ol' machine runs a mere single-core Prescott P4, I always shut down everything I can, including anti-virus, before taking to the virtual skies. Anyway, I'm very happy with NOD32 so far.
I also have a cable modem (Cox), that goes into a D-Link router. Does this kind of set up protect you from viruses, etc? I'm not real sure on this stuff, but I think I've heard that it helps. If so, do you still need AV software?
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We had NOD32 for a long while, but "we" found the Achilles Heel: It doesn't find stuff from non-reputable porn sites(I didn't find it, a parent was going to those...*blarf*). Other than that, NOD worked fairly well, though our versions might be different from what they reviewed. Currently, we use McAfee, and that seems to do us well.
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I also have a cable modem (Cox), that goes into a D-Link router. Does this kind of set up protect you from viruses, etc? I'm not real sure on this stuff, but I think I've heard that it helps. If so, do you still need AV software?
Yes you need an anti-virus. That only is a semi secure firewall (anti hacker not anti-virus).
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Yes you need an anti-virus. That only is a semi secure firewall (anti hacker not anti-virus).
I checked out the ESET website for the free trials. What is the difference between the Anti-Virus 4 and the Smart Security 4 programs? Which one do you think I should try out? Which one (or both?) do you use, and why?
Thanks,
John
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Smart Security has NOD32, their Firewall and Malware in one. That's what I have.
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No AV program installed on this or my wifes computer for over a year. I just use threatfire on both machines.
Takes very few system resources, just watch's for rootkits, registry changes, etc.
In the past I've had virus's disable my AV before it could detect it. That doesn't happen with Threatfire.
If it wants to change anything, threatfire is going to stop the process, ask me if this was something I wanted to do.
And if I say no, it will quarenteen the offending file, and kill the process.
But don't take my word for it. Check it out yourself.
Also its not constantly having to update virus definitions, etc. Install it and forget it.
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In the past I've had virus's disable my AV before it could detect it.
The first thing a good virus should do is Disable the AV program. By an independant study (have to find that site) Eset has been "Turned Off" less then any other AV program out there. If my memory is correct the most by-passed is Trend Micro followed by a few others then AVG a few others then McAfee, Norton with Eset at the top of being the least hacked. The Smart Suite has a small foot print, updates the virus patterns a few times a day, which is good (Unlike others doing so weekly) virus comes out today pattern is available that day in most cases rather then maybe being exposed until an update. I give ESET a :aok :aok :aok
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Eset just came out with their 4.0 products this weekend. So far, so good.
Generally, I recommend either Kaspersky, Norton, or Eset's AV products.
Eset NOD32 is the lightest-weight product out there, and it very good for a gaming rig.
Norton AV is also good, but not quite as lightweight. It has a good interface for beginners.
Norton Internet Security is a good product for those wanting the "everything plus the kitchen sink" in their security product. I think Norton 360 is just too much stuff for most users.
If you insist on free products, then Aviria Antivirus gets my approval.
-Llama
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Eset NOD32 is the lightest-weight product out there, and it very good for a gaming rig.
Or mcafee *enterprise* if you have access to it. IIRC McAfee have an AV @ home program which costs businesses ~$2 per seat. 8.7i is like nod32+threatfire imho :) (mcafee were doing what threatfire does long in their enterprise product before threatfire came out)
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Apparently NOD32 is weak on detecting (incl false positive) Crypto viruses.
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Apparently NOD32 is weak on detecting (incl false positive) Crypto viruses.
Apparently NOD32 has scored top or won in every reliability benchmark so far so I wouldn't be concerned.
And this comes from someone who stoped using AV about a year ago completely following Skuzzy's example. I have to say all my computers run much snappyer now and my 8-year old has only managed to snag spyware once which I had to clean.
I do use online scans now and then and regularly check the connection for any unauthorized traffic. Running without AV is by no means for computer beginners.
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Yes that's my pov as well. I wasn't concerned either till I somehow got one of those old (99) versions of a crypto that NOD32 never detected (full scans every other night) till it had already infected some System Volume Information files. When I scanned one of the folders it had infected, NOD failed to see it. It would only catch it when infected apps (notepad, IE, explorer, etc) showed the virus signature.
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Running without AV does require a discipline. I have been on the net since the DARPA days and have yet to see any of my computers get a virus and yet I have never used an AV program, except on test systems to see what damage the AV program will do.
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Running without AV does require a discipline. I have been on the net since the DARPA days and have yet to see any of my computers get a virus and yet I have never used an AV program, except on test systems to see what damage the AV program will do.
What is the discipline that keeps you from getting viruses? How does one go about that in this day and age? Ideas please?
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What is the discipline that keeps you from getting viruses? How does one go about that in this day and age? Ideas please?
No Porn, No Flash, etc
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Ive seen more problems caused by McAffe Antivirus, than I have seen caused by actual viruses... true story..
I run Avast now, used to run AVG before it turned into bloatware.
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No activeX controls, no .net framework, no downloading files from unknown sources.
And if you absolutely have to open an unknown file, you do it on a seperate machine from the one you need.
Any old slow pc laying around will work to unzip or unpack an unknown file so It can be checked.
Ohh and knowing skuzzy, probably a VERY good hardware firewall.
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Ghosth and Masherbrum pretty much hit the nail on the head. Also no Java or AJAX. I do allow javascript for trusted sites. I also have an automated tester (runs on Linux) for those trusted sites to insure they have not been infected with something.
The Internet is like a tool to me. I use my tools when I need them and only use what I need. Most people would be very frustrated with my configuration. What, no Facebook! What, no Youtube! What, no Myspace! HOW DO YOU LIVE?!?! Yada-yada-yada
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Do any of the aforementioned security software happen to work on Macintoshs? Or should I just leave my Mac OS X and Mac OS be?
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Do any of the aforementioned security software happen to work on Macintoshs? Or should I just leave my Mac OS X and Mac OS be?
Leave it as is.
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Leave it as is.
Dunno bout that, there's some nasty stuff floating around for the mac now, not much. But enough to be a worry.
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Ive seen more problems caused by McAffe Antivirus, than I have seen caused by actual viruses... true story..
I run Avast now, used to run AVG before it turned into bloatware.
Yeah well I've seen avast let through plenty of malware. I run mcafee on half a dozen machines, nod32 on a couple of others. My main gaming rig runs mcafee 8.7i and it's sweet.
If I were to say perfect setup, I'd say nod32 + threatfire + a sonicwall tz210 :)
Mcafee 8.7i is pretty close to the nod32+threatfire setup, but I think nod32 has a slightly better signature pickup.
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I signed up for Bit Defender and am very happy with it.
http://www.bitdefender.com
Have done Norton, Mcafee, AV, and one or two others over the years.
Bit Defender has a ton of bells and whistles. I particularly like the encrypted partition I can set up that does not show up unless I unlock it. The parent controls are very nice too esp if you have several systems in one house you want to keep an eye on. It has antispyware, gamer mode, parental controls, etc. Works for me. :)
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I also have a cable modem (Cox), that goes into a D-Link router. Does this kind of set up protect you from viruses, etc? I'm not real sure on this stuff, but I think I've heard that it helps. If so, do you still need AV software?
SKJohn, hiding your rig behind a router can potentially protect you from certain types of scripted attacks, the kind of thing were a program (script) reaches out to a whole broad range of IP addresses to see what sort of mischief it can make. Kinda like a burglar who walks down the street jiggling every front door latch to see what's been left unlocked.
But you should still consider running Anti-virus and anti-spyware programs, depending on your i-net browsing discipline (see Skuzzy's post, above). Viruses are usually things that we ourselves inadvertantly allow entry, through email or a browser or something.
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Routers offer a pretty good protection against worms that scan ip's for openings. But they do nothing against browser based attacks.
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most VIRUSES came from files you download, not from a 3rd party trying to port in to your machine, so in that regard, no a router wont protect you from a virus...
ESET NOD32
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AVAST
are the 2 ive used extensively and really prefer. very minimal load and they dont make a lot of fuss for no reason (like Nortard and MaCrappie)
AVAST is free, you DO have to register it every year, but it is in fact totally free, and so far I am very pleased with it.
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Avira Antivir is probably the best choice for a free AV at the moment. Avast has failed miserably in benchmarks for some time now. Same goes for AVG.
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Avira Antivir is probably the best choice for a free AV at the moment. Avast has failed miserably in benchmarks for some time now. Same goes for AVG.
AVAST continually wins awards from CNET, PC World, SC magazine and many others for its anti virus software. Ive used it for over a year and have had it catch a good number of threats, and I have yet to get any sort of infection whatsoever..
in a antivirus comparative done Oct 2008 it placed in the middle of the pack for speed.
http://www.av-comparatives.org/seiten/ergebnisse/performance2008a.pdf
ESET was of the top dog (as I would expect)
AVAST did soundly beat Avira overall and in every individual test except one.
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During last year I read so many user reports of Avast missing viruses and Nod32 / Antivir catching them that I have to disagree on that. Tests will only tell you the situation on a specific moment and on a specific threat database.
For example: http://security.nl/artikel/22931/1/34_virusscanners_getest,_G-Data,_Avira,_F-Secure_en_Norton_bovenaan.html
gives a very different picture.
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During last year I read so many user reports of Avast missing viruses and Nod32 / Antivir catching them that I have to disagree on that. Tests will only tell you the situation on a specific moment and on a specific threat database.
For example: http://security.nl/artikel/22931/1/34_virusscanners_getest,_G-Data,_Avira,_F-Secure_en_Norton_bovenaan.html
gives a very different picture.
The latest AV-Comparative Retrospective / ProActive test shows Avast Professional does OK but Nod32 cleans house. This is a really good test as it shows how well the AV program dealt with new virus's. ( http://www.av-comparatives.org/ )
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I think Nod32 is great. But when my 2-year subscription on it ended with zero detections, I decided to start running without. And so far only my wife/kid has managed to pick spyware but no viruses. So I put avira on wife's Vista.
If the kid manages to get something to the Win7 x64 that he uses, that'll have to be formatted soon anyway when the beta ends.
I do regularly perform online scans and check network activity for illegal traffic. Oh and my macbook doesn't even _have_ many viruses to catch.. :D
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One of the most hacked AV out there next to Norton. Used to use Kaspersky then tried the ESET many moons ago, and the ESET found 27 infiltrations that Kaspersky didn't even notice or warn me about! I will stick with the NOD32 and stay safer IMHO
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I have used Norton for years, tried others and came back to Norton. This computer has ESET NOD32 on it and is the best protection that I've had, updates constantly and no major problems. Thanks TilDeath :noid :salute
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Guys,
I'm just now starting my work on CPU's big Security Software round-up for the July issue, and I'd love your opinions about such articles *before* I start working.
So please check out this thread (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,260376.0.html) and help me make this article something you'd want to read and get some value out of.
Thanks,
Llama