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Title: No Japanese aircraft?
Post by: Anaxogoras on December 30, 2008, 01:13:00 AM
The allied side has the La5 and F4U, in addition to the P-51B, P-38J, P-47D-11, Spitfire VIII and others.  So why does the axis side not have at least one Japanese aircraft?  How about the K-61?
Title: Re: No Japanese aircraft?
Post by: Shifty on December 30, 2008, 06:23:59 AM
Good point.
Title: Re: No Japanese aircraft?
Post by: captain1ma on December 30, 2008, 06:40:51 AM
because that map has never had japanese aircraft in it. its a mini-euro war map.
Title: Re: No Japanese aircraft?
Post by: Eagler on December 30, 2008, 06:46:25 AM
logged on last night for the first time in a while

looked to me that the axis had the best plane set as it is

had a couple of good fights and one very fun one - low and slow that everyone else stayed out of

<S> B4Buster
Title: Re: No Japanese aircraft?
Post by: Shifty on December 30, 2008, 07:05:50 AM
because that map has never had japanese aircraft in it. its a mini-euro war map.

This is the same map that was used in the first war scenario. It had the A6M on it then. The F4U1A is on it's not really considered a Euro fighter.
Title: Re: No Japanese aircraft?
Post by: Odee on December 30, 2008, 07:06:33 AM
This is the same map that was used in the first war scenario. It had the A6M on it then. The F4U1A is on it's not really considered a Euro fighter.
:aok :aok :aok
Title: Re: No Japanese aircraft?
Post by: flatiron1 on December 30, 2008, 07:43:16 AM
the current map ( one with the channel in the middle) should have at least a a6m2.
Title: Re: No Japanese aircraft?
Post by: republic on December 30, 2008, 08:28:07 AM
I asked soda the other night for the Ki's, but someone who never flies in the arena objected saying the allies had "nothing to counter it"...  I didn't want to ague with someone I knew would leave anyway, so I didn't press the issue.

I agree though, the Ki's would be a hoot in this setup if we could get em.
Title: Re: No Japanese aircraft?
Post by: Shifty on December 30, 2008, 08:40:32 AM
I asked soda the other night for the Ki's, but someone who never flies in the arena objected saying the allies had "nothing to counter it"...  I didn't want to ague with someone I knew would leave anyway, so I didn't press the issue.

I agree though, the Ki's would be a hoot in this setup if we could get em.

The Allies have the 1A Corsair, and I think I saw Spit9s. If you're talking the KI-61 the P-47D11 is a good matchup, the Ki-84s acceleration kind of handicaps the P-47 IMO. The Corsair fights well against both the Ki-61 and Ki-84. The Spit9 pilots shouldn't complain over either of the Japanese Army fighters being included.
Title: Re: No Japanese aircraft?
Post by: Eagler on December 30, 2008, 08:41:59 AM
you have the 109f - what else do you need? :)

(http://www.militaryimages.net/photopost/data/961/Messerschmitt_Bf-109F-2_Galland_s_Messerschmitt.jpg)
Title: Re: No Japanese aircraft?
Post by: captain1ma on December 30, 2008, 09:08:22 AM
a G-6!!  :D
Title: Re: No Japanese aircraft?
Post by: B4Buster on December 30, 2008, 09:25:28 AM
D-11s, 38Js, F6Fs were allused in the ETO. Now as far as F4U I'm not sure, we should have had one japanese plane at least
Title: Re: No Japanese aircraft?
Post by: Anaxogoras on December 30, 2008, 09:28:52 AM
I can see that the Ki-84 might dominate, but the Ki-61 should fit right into the current planeset nicely.
Title: Re: No Japanese aircraft?
Post by: B4Buster on December 30, 2008, 09:34:23 AM
I can see that the Ki-84 might dominate, but the Ki-61 should fight right into the current planeset nicely.

No I think a Ki-84 would be just perfect actually. Ki-61s wouldn't be used I don't think...they're real underpowered compared to the 109s
Title: Re: No Japanese aircraft?
Post by: republic on December 30, 2008, 09:39:43 AM
Ki-61 is handy for the extra cannon, however I miss the slats in turns.  Ki-84 would be nice, i don't' think it would dominate though.  It could  out accelerate everything I suppose.

Wouldn't hurt to just add the Ki-61 and see what happens.
Title: Re: No Japanese aircraft?
Post by: Odee on December 30, 2008, 09:40:03 AM
Who cares... It's all a cartoon plane set anyway, so add the damn thing
 :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: No Japanese aircraft?
Post by: soda72 on December 30, 2008, 09:48:30 AM
The current setup is not intended to be historical.  It's simply an 'axis vs allies' setup with no historical reference.  The intent was to place a large number of planes to choose from that match up well against each other.   The ki-61 was suppose to be added, but was forgotten.
Title: Re: No Japanese aircraft?
Post by: Anaxogoras on December 30, 2008, 09:52:22 AM
The ki-61 was suppose to be added, but was forgotten.

So we can expect to see it tonight? :aok
Title: Re: No Japanese aircraft?
Post by: soda72 on December 30, 2008, 09:56:45 AM
So we can expect to see it tonight? :aok

Anything can happen for $100.00....

 :D,


It's enabled already...
Title: Re: No Japanese aircraft?
Post by: Shifty on December 30, 2008, 09:58:59 AM
Anything can happen for $100.00....

 :D,


It's enabled already...

That was true in 70s. Prices have gone up though.
Title: Re: No Japanese aircraft?
Post by: flatiron1 on December 30, 2008, 10:10:02 AM
hey if you gonna add ki84 or ki61  please add a6m5b also.
Title: Re: No Japanese aircraft?
Post by: Odee on December 30, 2008, 12:52:48 PM
 :rofl
That was true in 70s. Prices have gone up though.
Shush you!  I got him cheap, with some gold...






(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/Maj_Spotter/CarlingBlkLbl.jpg)

Now don't go blowing it.
 :lol ;) :salute
Title: Re: No Japanese aircraft?
Post by: B4Buster on December 30, 2008, 12:54:39 PM
:roflShush you!  I got him cheap, now don't go blowing it.

 :lol
Title: Re: No Japanese aircraft?
Post by: Dawger on December 30, 2008, 01:12:07 PM
I saw Larry flying a Ki 61 this morning. I don't know about other IJA/IJN stuff but the Ki61 was there this AM.
Title: Re: No Japanese aircraft?
Post by: Krusty on December 31, 2008, 12:02:00 AM
I asked soda the other night for the Ki's, but someone who never flies in the arena objected saying the allies had "nothing to counter it"...  I didn't want to ague with someone I knew would leave anyway, so I didn't press the issue.

I agree though, the Ki's would be a hoot in this setup if we could get em.

I've been driven off the AvA a number of times. It's attitudes LIKE this that do it. Your passive-aggressive bickering really seems to reflect your squadmates' worst traits.

I said that about the Ki84. It would be the fastest plane in the arena and one of the most nimble, giving even the uber-flapped F4u1 a run for its money on even terms. The only reason it's not ENY5 in the MA is because it arbitrarily loses control surfaces at high speeds. At the time the suggestions was MADE, the F4u wasn't even available, either, so the only opposition for the Ki84 would have been a P51B or a P47D11.
Title: Re: No Japanese aircraft?
Post by: Odee on December 31, 2008, 12:13:30 AM
I saw Larry flying a Ki 61 this morning. I don't know about other IJA/IJN stuff but the Ki61 was there this AM.
Shot one down tonight while driving my Pee38 around Nit lands.  Interesting fight when we went vertical.

Didn't see another one the rest of the night.
 :salute
Title: Re: No Japanese aircraft?
Post by: republic on December 31, 2008, 07:33:40 AM
At the time the suggestions was MADE, the F4u wasn't even available, either, so the only opposition for the Ki84 would have been a P51B or a P47D11.

The F4U was available, I fought Shifty 2 sorties in it.  I also later saw an F6F....  I'm not trying to dive you off at all Krusty.  I think you could be a valuable AvA member, you just need to understand people have different opinions and that is ok.  It doesn't belittle you in anyway.  No one's ideas are perfect, we just all have to work together.  In the past when I've seen you involved in the AvA, your attitude hasn't been one of 'making it work' but rather...passive aggression.  (I'm reminded of the B-26 mission a few weeks ago)

<S> Krusty, I truly hope you stick around this time.  We ALL need to work together, and that means we're ALL going to have to check our ego's and issues at the door.