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Title: Icons - a new idea maybe.
Post by: Spatula on November 06, 2000, 02:46:00 PM
I think it was jekyll who posted something the other day. He had a list of things that he wanted added/alter in AH. Among one of the things was changing to 2 countries, and one of his reasons for this is we wouldnt need a big country icon over the plane just type and range.

This got me thinking, that removing that piece from the icons we get now would be better cause it should reduce the ammount of icon (neon billboard) visable to nmes. And i also though we need not go to 2 countries to eliminate the country part of the icon. We only need to do what WB did all along, have different coloured countries.
 - green  = bishop
 - red    = knights
 - yellow = rooks
 - white is still your wingman
 - orange is still your squadmates

The in flight radar (if it is staying) would have to map 3 colour bars tho.

Couple this with a smaller icon text (its still too big) and we should have a winner.

<-- throws this open to the floor for debate.
Title: Icons - a new idea maybe.
Post by: AKDejaVu on November 06, 2000, 03:29:00 PM
Warbirds used to have this (still may).  I always hated the first day of a country change (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/redface.gif)

AKDejaVu

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Title: Icons - a new idea maybe.
Post by: Eagler on November 06, 2000, 03:45:00 PM
no icons at all on enemy planes only friendly ones.

Eagler
Title: Icons - a new idea maybe.
Post by: Zigrat on November 06, 2000, 05:53:00 PM
too extreme eagler

i would like to see the d3-d6 we currently have in the SEA for the MA tho. Think thats prolly the best compromise.
Title: Icons - a new idea maybe.
Post by: SKurj on November 06, 2000, 06:07:00 PM
Lose the country indicator, have it say 109 or spit, in that countries colour.  And have country colours user selectable (I always fly fer green no matter the sim)  No range displayed under 1k..


SKurj

Title: Icons - a new idea maybe.
Post by: Spatula on November 06, 2000, 07:20:00 PM
 
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Originally posted by SKurj:
And have country colours user selectable (I always fly fer green no matter the sim)  No range displayed under 1k..


SKurj


Great idea, both of them  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Title: Icons - a new idea maybe.
Post by: Wingnut_0 on November 06, 2000, 08:51:00 PM
I, like Eagler, love no tags flying, but I also understand that doesn't work great for MA flying.

Mentioned was the country icon.  Why have it anyway?  I mean, both Bish and Rook are red to me.  I don't really pay attention to which one is attacking me or visa versa.

Personally I don't like the plane indicators either.  To me that just gives someone to much of an edge when entering a fight.  I'd settle just for range icon and that's it. (In adjustable colors set by the user)

I'm for anything though that would bring back more of a Chance of bouncing AC that might have missed u, etc.  

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Title: Icons - a new idea maybe.
Post by: Fury on November 07, 2000, 07:24:00 AM
I like one color for each country if possible.  Seeing all the enemies as "red" is fine, but it is difficult to determine where the gangbanging is.

D3 or D4 for enemy icons is cool.

I like the idea of no distance icon under 1k.  I find myself watching the icon instead of the plane when lining up a shot.  I think my gunnery would improve (eventually) by having to watch the target instead of the distance range.

Fury
Title: Icons - a new idea maybe.
Post by: popeye on November 07, 2000, 07:55:00 AM
Separate colors for each country ONLY if they are user selectable.

My major complaint about WB icons was the fact that some were easier to see than others.  (I know about the brightness adjustment.)  Icons are a major factor in SA.  SA is a major factor in success or failure in the game.  No one should have a (dis)advantage based on the color of the icons!  This is still a problem in AH, though  to a lesser degree.  It is too easy to fix to allow this problem to persist.

(HTC has said they don't want user adjustable icons colors because it would confuse newbies.  I maintain that by the time a newbie figures out how to change the colors, he will know who to shoot at.)

Title: Icons - a new idea maybe.
Post by: LLv34_Camouflage on November 07, 2000, 10:21:00 AM
Since we have 3 "parts" in the icons, why not use them separately?  Thats what I like about WB - the CM's can edit the ranges for different parts of the icons.

Here's a suggestion for icon settings in AH:

Country icon only: 5k - 3k
Country+Range: 3k - 1k
Country+Planetype: 1k - 0k

By the time you get to around 2k, you should be able to see if it is a fighter or a bomber.  At 1k the icon would confirm this by telling you the exact type. At the same time the range info would disappear so there would be no more unrealistic gun solutions.

These ranges are just suggestions, of course.  The SEA should have shorter icon ranges.

Camo

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