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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: USCH on December 31, 2008, 03:29:14 PM
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I think of this alot and i was wondering, what if we picked a country (rotating from one to the next to the next) and each time we came to a country we take the most produced aircraft to see service 1st and just go down the list.... Like U.S.was picked last so there out, and Germany is next (or whoever) and then so on until we run out of country's that produced and used aircraft in the war. then back to the US for the next round.
Then we would always know whats next (just not the when of getting it)
We would also see aircraft that may not have a chance of being "voted" in get in (like the Pe-2 and Tu-2)
Another option (witch i like better) but seems unrealistic that it would happen because of the flack it would make by people who want the uber-latest 51/spit/La/Zero, would be to start with country's in 1939 and make the aircraft that were used at the of the start of the war 1st.
then going to the next latest aircraft to enter service in the war. This being a seemingly straight forward plan, with the only trouble being that we will have a bunch of Biplanes running around until we get to more modern times in our development.
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Another option (witch i like better) but seems unrealistic that it would happen because of the flack it would make by people who want the uber-latest 51/spit/La/Zero, would be to start with country's in 1939 and make the aircraft that were used at the of the start of the war 1st.
:aok :aok
I would love this :aok
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Another option (witch i like better) but seems unrealistic that it would happen because of the flack it would make by people who want the uber-latest 51/spit/La/Zero, would be to start with country's in 1939 and make the aircraft that were used at the of the start of the war 1st.
then going to the next latest aircraft to enter service in the war. This being a seemingly straight forward plan, with the only trouble being that we will have a bunch of Biplanes running around until we get to more modern times in our development.
Sounds like a rolling planeset. I'm into it, but get for a bunch of late-war-only types to tell you "No."
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I think of this alot and i was wondering, what if we picked a country (rotating from one to the next to the next) and each time we came to a country we take the most produced aircraft to see service 1st and just go down the list.... Like U.S.was picked last so there out, and Germany is next (or whoever) and then so on until we run out of country's that produced and used aircraft in the war. then back to the US for the next round.
Then we would always know whats next (just not the when of getting it)
We would also see aircraft that may not have a chance of being "voted" in get in (like the Pe-2 and Tu-2)
Another option (witch i like better) but seems unrealistic that it would happen because of the flack it would make by people who want the uber-latest 51/spit/La/Zero, would be to start with country's in 1939 and make the aircraft that were used at the of the start of the war 1st.
then going to the next latest aircraft to enter service in the war. This being a seemingly straight forward plan, with the only trouble being that we will have a bunch of Biplanes running around until we get to more modern times in our development.
So divide the plane set?
I see no point, even though its a good idea. Nobody or not many people play the Early or Middle arenas. It be like adding and deleting planes from here and there for nothing much.
-FYB
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I'm pretty sure he doesn't mean delete the late war planes we already have (that would just be stupid), rather adding earlier planes first from now on.
Furthermore, I'd imagine the lack of players in early war has a lot to due the limited planeset :aok
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Ya that's why i said it would be the smart thing to do but I'm sure not the most popular. Easy but not popular for the dweebs that seem to have alot of pull for there X-fighters.
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I'm pretty sure he doesn't mean delete the late war planes we already have (that would just be stupid), rather adding earlier planes first from now on. correct
Furthermore, I'd imagine the lack of players in early war has a lot to due the limited planeset :aok
and again correct
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I'm pretty sure he doesn't mean delete the late war planes we already have (that would just be stupid), rather adding earlier planes first from now on.
Furthermore, I'd imagine the lack of players in early war has a lot to due the limited planeset :aok
You're probably 99.99% correct, i kept the 0.01% just in case i was wrong this way the mob doesn't go after me.
-FYB
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Sounds like a rolling planeset. I'm into it, but get for a bunch of late-war-only types to tell you "No."
Actually, one would expect HT himself to chime in and shoot this down, as he has in the past. Do a search. :aok
"Rolling planesets" can be found in the AvA. Which is really what rolling planesets are all about - "historical" matchups.
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Shane its not about rolling plainesets, its about introducing aircraft historically, form 1st to last based on the date they entered the war, we would keep everything we have now, and the next aircraft to be introduced into ace's high would be early war aircraft and we would keep introducing aircraft untill we go to the end of the war thus completing the came with every aircraft used in the war and available to fly. understand what im saying better? Like insted of the next uber aircraft being brought in we would start with the Avia B-534 a pre war czechoslovakian aircraft.
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Shane its not about rolling plainesets, its about introducing aircraft historically, form 1st to last based on the date they entered the war, we would keep everything we have now, and the next aircraft to be introduced into ace's high would be early war aircraft and we would keep introducing aircraft untill we go to the end of the war thus completing the came with every aircraft used in the war and available to fly. understand what im saying better?
No, but you sound like you're getting mad.
You're confusing me.
Either way, i agree with shane.
-FYB
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I wish you could organize the list the way you want, but I mean all the plans not just your favorites. :salute
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doesn't AvA do this?
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ITS not about rolling plainsets!
im not angry at all guys im just fustrated its about introducing new aircraft to the game, were not taking anything away and were not limiting anything, we are just making an orderly way of developing our next to aircraft to the game. starting with the early war aircraft based on there entry date into the war, and going to the next aircraft after that one is flying in the game along side of our B-17's and La-7s we allready have in the MA.
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ITS not about rolling plainsets!
im not angry at all guys im just fustrated its about introducing new aircraft to the game, were not taking anything away and were not limiting anything, we are just making an orderly way of developing our next to aircraft to the game. starting with the early war aircraft based on there entry date into the war, and going to the next aircraft after that one is flying in the game along side of our B-17's and La-7s we allready have in the MA.
MAD, ANGRY, IRRITATED
-FYB
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SPAM!!!
:noid
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I was just trying to explane what I'm trying to say and it seems i am unable to do so.
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ITS not about rolling plainsets!
im not angry at all guys im just fustrated its about introducing new aircraft to the game, were not taking anything away and were not limiting anything, we are just making an orderly way of developing our next to aircraft to the game. starting with the early war aircraft based on there entry date into the war, and going to the next aircraft after that one is flying in the game along side of our B-17's and La-7s we allready have in the MA.
No, I get it now...
ok, i only addressed the rolling planeset aspect (last 1/2 of your original post). As for the actual development and additions by HTC of new planes (starting with 1939, etc) I'm not sure I'd want to wait 20 years til they reach the planes in '44/45 not included already.
It's not a simple matter to just toss in planes by name/year. Lots of data is needed to support the FM, details, etc. - far be it from me to suggest *how* HTC goes about developing and including new planes.
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I was just trying to explane what I'm trying to say and it seems i am unable to do so.
"explane" ? Ex-Plane? We seem to be having a spelling problem over.
-FYB
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rgr Shane... :aok
oh and for the tool asking about my spelling.... :salute :rolleyes:
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rgr Shane... :aok
oh and for the tool asking about my spelling.... :salute :rolleyes:
NP ;)
-FYB
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I'm into it, but get for a bunch of late-war-only types to tell you "No."
A rolling plane set is a bad idea, regardless of which era plane you fly. It was a failure in WB, which is why we don't have it in AH. If you have any doubt, just ask the creator of both games.
ack-ack
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reading the origanal post would be great :aok
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This would be a great idea, but I'll have to agree with Shane..
I'm not sure I'd want to wait 20 years til they reach the planes in '44/45 not included already.
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Ack-Ack he was talking about the planes that get added to the game next. Only one time was there a vote for the next plane, and it was the B25. The P39 was a VERY close second, so I think that was the reason we got that one next. As to all other planes and vehicles.... I don't think anyone knows how its decided as to which will be added next. Maybe it has something to do with what ever scenario is coming up, maybe Pyro knocks over a stack of magazines and throws empty beer cans until one stays standing upright on a picture of our next plane.
I don't think they will ever start at an early plane and then just work their way through the inventory from there. I'm sure there are many planes in that list they don't have enough information on to build a credible model. I guess we will just have to do it the old way and wait on pins and needles begging for information out of HTC :D
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There's some definite gaps that are in desperate need of filling. ESPECIALLY the Japanese plane set. I don't envy scenario designers trying to figure out PTO setups. The early naval battles are decently covered with the A6M2, B5N and D3A, however the G4M is a glaring hole and the IJAAF doesn't have an EW fighter at all. The Ki-43 is BADLY needed for late EW and definitely MW, and the Ki-27 and A5M would be quite welcome for variety (Allies have F4F, Spit and Hurri I, P-39D and P-38G for the PTO, Japan has the Zeke) in EW as well. Additionally the A6M3 would be invaluable as an intermediate between the A6M2 and A6M5 (A6M2 isn't appropriate for mid-42 until the end of 43, and the A6M5 is too late). And because I KNOW someone is going to respond with it: the D4Y. The G3M Nell would be an interesting inclusion, especially for an AVG scenario and I think I've seen the Ki-45 requested rather frequently. For that matter, the Japanese don't have ANY fighters that are actually appropriate to an AVG scenario, (Flying Tigers only encountered Ki-27s, A5Ms, and Ki-47s. Any Zeros would have been well after they were absorbed into the USAAF) and only the D3A and B5N would have been encountered.
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wow people see a guy with no avatar/sig and a few posts and target him without reading the OP which was quite easy to understand.
For what it counts Jason the first idea was better IMO going country by country introducing the most produced aircraft that saw squadron service. The data available for the most produced would be more easily gathered i'm guessing?
The second idea is a very logical one but would be painstakingly slow to get every single aircraft that saw action. I think Htc should gather a big list of the most suitable additions that are do-able and go from each country to be fair. Any public vote will end up with US plane bias. The list we voted on what seems along time ago now. We have the P39/B25 and lets be hoping Htc are now cracking on with the rest of the planes that made the list.
This thread has nothing to do with rolling planesets! :lol
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(Flying Tigers only encountered Ki-27s, A5Ms, and Ki-47s. Any Zeros would have been well after they were absorbed into the USAAF)
Sorry, that 47 should be a 43. Darned modify time limit....
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I'm pretty sure he doesn't mean delete the late war planes we already have (that would just be stupid), rather adding earlier planes first from now on.
Furthermore, I'd imagine the lack of players in early war has a lot to due the limited planeset :aok
I can agree with this... Bring on the Fairey Fulmar!! :D