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Title: Refined and updated SAPP Landing Technique...image intensive
Post by: Guppy35 on December 31, 2008, 04:13:22 PM
With the year coming to an end, and with lots of folks showing an interest in the P38, I thought it an opportune time to post the newly refined SAPP landing technique.  I was able to film it last night on my first SAPP flight of SAPP night.  This does raise the bar for an appropriate SAPP landing however as I have introduced a number of new refinements.

It's important to get your 38 trimmed for landing.  In my case, it's removing part of the right wing and losing the engine on the same wing.  I find I have more control this way.  Also note that a runway is not a requirement for a SAPP landing, only a point on the ground to aim for.  I am aiming for an isolated hedge towards the top middle of the screenshot.
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/landing14.jpg)

Without trouble I am bringing the old 38G down right on target.
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/landing15.jpg)

Note the angle of the smoke trail as I want to make sure I'm going straight.
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/landingangle.jpg)

I've found that the hedges provided by HTC are valuable tools in helping a SAPP landing.  Note the wing in the hedge as I touch down.
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/landing16.jpg)

Also note I like to go easy on the landing gear, using only one at a time to save tire wear.
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/landingGear.jpg)

HTC has also been kind enough to leave an opening in the hedge for a pilot to put the nose of his plane.  With practice, you too can take advantage of this.
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/landinghedge.jpg)

It's during this time that it is time to think about parts and storage.  I've begun to remove parts now and to burn off my remaining fuel
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/landing17.jpg)

A proficient P38 pilot can remove a number of parts at one time.  Also note that this is where the art of the landing starts to show as I've introduced the 360 degree, leaping turn and flop to the landing
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/landing18.jpg)

You can see that I am now facing the direction I came in, while taking pressure off the gear with a brief jump.
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/landing19.jpg)

Continuing, I now have the nose high as I am swinging it around back towards my original landing direction while working on rudder and elevator removal
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/landing20.jpg)

Almost completely though the 360 now, and the elevator is feeling the strain
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/landing21.jpg)


Off it pops as I'm now back on all three gear and in my final roll out
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/landing23.jpg)

Engines off, the remaining fuel burning away, and I down and safe, none the worse for wear.  You too can someday learn to land the P38 the SAPP way if you are willing to put in the time and the effort.  I hope this little photo essay will inspire you to keep working hard in the new year!
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/Landing24.jpg)
Title: Re: Refined and updated SAPP Landing Technique...image intensive
Post by: Spikes on December 31, 2008, 04:19:27 PM
:rofl
Title: Re: Refined and updated SAPP Landing Technique...image intensive
Post by: JunkyII on December 31, 2008, 04:23:44 PM
Thats great  :rofl
Title: Re: Refined and updated SAPP Landing Technique...image intensive
Post by: helbent on December 31, 2008, 04:59:42 PM
Absolutely gorgeous effort.  Many parts can be retrieved.
Title: Re: Refined and updated SAPP Landing Technique...image intensive
Post by: Bosco123 on December 31, 2008, 05:10:12 PM
Great landing, will you teach me that someday? :aok  :rofl
Title: Re: Refined and updated SAPP Landing Technique...image intensive
Post by: humble on December 31, 2008, 05:21:39 PM
 :rofl :aok :rock :salute
Title: Re: Refined and updated SAPP Landing Technique...image intensive
Post by: Fulmar on December 31, 2008, 06:29:03 PM
When will there be something like this for 262's?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYr850iBCEk
Title: Re: Refined and updated SAPP Landing Technique...image intensive
Post by: PhantomBarron on December 31, 2008, 06:52:25 PM
That was a good one lol
Title: Re: Refined and updated SAPP Landing Technique...image intensive
Post by: Enker on December 31, 2008, 06:53:32 PM
Hmm, I tried to do a SAPP landing offline, but I failed miserably. Then I executed a landing almost worthy of being SAPP-certified in the Main Arena. I guess the trick is to not think about it?
Title: Re: Refined and updated SAPP Landing Technique...image intensive
Post by: The Fugitive on December 31, 2008, 06:54:56 PM
He's getting pretty good at piling those parts neatly isn't he ?  :)
Title: Re: Refined and updated SAPP Landing Technique...image intensive
Post by: moot on December 31, 2008, 07:13:51 PM
<S> Master
Title: Re: Refined and updated SAPP Landing Technique...image intensive
Post by: ROC on December 31, 2008, 08:02:20 PM
I've made a fortune following the SAPP crowd around and scavenging an increasingly rare supply of P38 parts.
Title: Re: Refined and updated SAPP Landing Technique...image intensive
Post by: Acidreign on December 31, 2008, 09:19:01 PM
I find it to be lacking. You still have all landing gear, one rudder, and the props arent even bent. Try harder next time!

 I give it a 8.7
Title: Re: Refined and updated SAPP Landing Technique...image intensive
Post by: SD67 on December 31, 2008, 09:21:36 PM
I disagree Acidreign, he's also upright and both booms are though devoid of control surfaces, still intact, that makes it a solid 4
Title: Re: Refined and updated SAPP Landing Technique...image intensive
Post by: SIK1 on December 31, 2008, 10:04:28 PM
Bravo! Bravo!  :rock

Encore!! Encore!! :rock

 :salute To an artist.
Title: Re: Refined and updated SAPP Landing Technique...image intensive
Post by: toonces3 on December 31, 2008, 10:34:48 PM
Can I be your Paduan?
Title: Re: Refined and updated SAPP Landing Technique...image intensive
Post by: Frodo on December 31, 2008, 11:41:13 PM
Great landing, will you teach me that someday? :aok  :rofl

I don't think you can teach that. It is a gift!  :D
Title: Re: Refined and updated SAPP Landing Technique...image intensive
Post by: BaldEagl on January 01, 2009, 12:50:14 AM
Major deduction for ending rightside up.  I'm very dissapointed.
Title: Re: Refined and updated SAPP Landing Technique...image intensive
Post by: Guppy35 on January 01, 2009, 01:18:05 AM
I have not refined the 360 degree spin then invert the 38 landing as of yet.  One auger at at time thank you.  I'll get it there yet! :)
Title: Re: Refined and updated SAPP Landing Technique...image intensive
Post by: Cobra516 on January 01, 2009, 02:07:52 AM
LMAO - that was excellent man!   Great write up and commentary, nicely done.  :lol 
Title: Re: Refined and updated SAPP Landing Technique...image intensive
Post by: kvuo75 on January 01, 2009, 02:17:04 AM
that is defnitely a good screenshot sequence ! LOL and  :aok :aok :aok


btw my favorite part is "the elevator's feeling the strain"

 :rofl
Title: Re: Refined and updated SAPP Landing Technique...image intensive
Post by: trigger2 on January 01, 2009, 05:09:00 AM
I disagree Acidreign, he's also upright and both booms are though devoid of control surfaces, still intact, that makes it a solid 4

You are forgetting the pilots still in one piece...  :aok
Title: Re: Refined and updated SAPP Landing Technique...image intensive
Post by: SD67 on January 01, 2009, 05:23:40 AM
You are forgetting the pilots still in one piece...  :aok
This IS Corky we're talking about here. He's never been in one piece!
Title: Re: Refined and updated SAPP Landing Technique...image intensive
Post by: gpwurzel on January 01, 2009, 05:32:08 AM
Corky, you now owe me (in no particular order)

A new keyboard

Tissues to wipe my nose/glasses/desk

Tissues to wipe my screen

Brownie points for waking the wife up by laughing like a loon

Excellent job mate - have a great new year, and I look forward to fighting ya in 09

<S>

Wurzel
Title: Re: Refined and updated SAPP Landing Technique...image intensive
Post by: trigger2 on January 01, 2009, 03:32:57 PM
This IS Corky we're talking about here. He's never been in one piece!

First and last for everything!
This must be both!
:aok
Title: Re: Refined and updated SAPP Landing Technique...image intensive
Post by: Hajo on January 01, 2009, 04:07:47 PM
author! Author! (standing ovation)   :aok
Title: Re: Refined and updated SAPP Landing Technique...image intensive
Post by: dentin on January 01, 2009, 06:12:57 PM
Best one yet!  :rofl :aok
Title: Re: Refined and updated SAPP Landing Technique...image intensive
Post by: crims on January 04, 2009, 07:06:29 PM
Hmm ...I see a new SAPP EVENT  "The Hedge Jump"   :rock


Can't Wait for the SAPP Olympics  :O


Crims
Title: Re: Refined and updated SAPP Landing Technique...image intensive
Post by: Babalonian on January 05, 2009, 02:38:40 PM
Awesome landing, but since when did a SAPP landing involve all three wheels actualy being used for their intended purpose of supporting the weight of the aircraft while on the ground?
Title: Re: Refined and updated SAPP Landing Technique...image intensive
Post by: Slate on January 05, 2009, 02:45:33 PM
 :rofl  Missing was the pilot running from the burning hulk before the explosion but excellent technique. :salute
Title: Re: Refined and updated SAPP Landing Technique...image intensive
Post by: Shuffler on January 05, 2009, 05:42:56 PM
You will never see a SAPP pilot running from his plane. One of his Sworn Oaths is to protect the blender at all cost. The blenders are hard-mounted so their torque can be harnessed for certain moves. The hard mounting means you can't leave the plane on short notice. That is why, if you see a 38 pilot in his crashed plane, he always looks to be standing at the urinal. He is in fact protecting the blender by means which can't be discussed outside of SAPP Headquarters located in Grapevine Texas.