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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: JAGED on January 02, 2009, 11:14:49 AM
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Wow, this could be me...
http://www.wsmv.com/news/18391549/detail.html (http://www.wsmv.com/news/18391549/detail.html)
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WOW,
I left the Air Force in 99 and am 50 years old. The aircraft I worked on are at AMOC (F-111s). I really don't think I'll be called, what could the military do with a fat 50 year old Tech Sgt???
It is good to see the military is still as messed up as it was when I was in.
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I'm so glad I was medically discharged. I can't even reenlist willingly, I tried twice.
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It is kind of misleading how they make is sound like he is "being handed a rifle and sent back to combat". He was a missile tech for God's sake, not exactly a front line door-kicker. And that "last time he saw combat", again, anyone think he was ever really in a firefight? He may have seen a rocket strike his base, but sometimes the sensationalism the media specialize in get's carried away.
Regardless, it's a shame they are doing this to a guy who is 50 and served his time, got out and went on with his life.
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It happens but now he has to go through the medical/psych exams to determine if he is fit for that duty. Perhaps he should start talking to "old friends" who aren't in the room and carrying on conversations with them.
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Hope he takes the retirement this time around.
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I always thought your inactive reserve time was only 6 years. That was the plan back in my day. If they didnt get you within 6 years of your discharge then you were home free.
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It happens but now he has to go through the medical/psych exams to determine if he is fit for that duty. Perhaps he should start talking to "old friends" who aren't in the room and carrying on conversations with them.
or just state he likes boys more than girls ....
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I always thought your inactive reserve time was only 6 years. That was the plan back in my day. If they didnt get you within 6 years of your discharge then you were home free.
Same here. Something doesn't sound right. (I'm in the same boat as Treize....medical discharge.)
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Same here. Something doesn't sound right.
Agreed.
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I always thought your inactive reserve time was only 6 years. That was the plan back in my day. If they didnt get you within 6 years of your discharge then you were home free.
If he retired, not so.... They can call him back up to he is 65 or 66 years old.
Cavalry <--------retired Army guy watching his mail box.
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I leave this less then 3rd world country in june. I'll be back here within 4 months for another 9 month deployment with my squadron. That will be 18 months in the same "country" in 2 years. The first time working for the Army, the 2nd for the Navy. Then after that 9 month rotation I go back stateside for about 6 months, then back here for another 9 months. Rinse and repeat until I leave for another squadron, get out of the Navy which I dont plan on, or the squadron deploys to a new war zone. Its all about the needs of the military.
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Personally I dont think there should be a maximum age limit as to how old you can be to join or serve in the armed forces.
Certainly there is a job somewhere that even a 70 year old can do.
Brings to mind the story of John L burns
(http://www.shorpy.com/files/images/01658u_0.preview.jpg)
70 year old veteran of 1812 volunteered to fight at the battle of Gettysburg as a sharpshooter. Fought with with the 7th Wisconsin Infantry and the 24th Michigan "Iron Brigade"
After managing several kills. Including one of shooting a charging confederate officer off his horse, he was wounded 3 times arm. Leg and smaller wounds to the chest.
Takes some balls. Having been through one war 40 years earlier and knowing full well what it is like. To be wiling to get it up one more time and go through it again.
In any event. I think it should be every citizens right to serve in the military regardless of age.(note I said IN, not for)
In the private sector its called age discrimination
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If it ever got so deep of a shortage of men age discrimination would drop so fast its not even funny , we would all be called back into service , maybe as a janitor/clerk or something but used nonetheless at our country's discretion.
Nutte
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Either a lie, or this guy is nutts thinking he's really going back into combat breaking down doors and what not. It'll be funny, if he's complaining and what not and they deploy him to like Korea or Germany. :lol
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Oooooh, screw what i said.
Still R.I.P Loui :salute
No, it did not offend me. Sorry about that
-FYB
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Have you no respect?
My grandfather fought in WWII, and he was a master carpinter or something like that, all i remember was he built bridges that could be dismantled in Germany. No, he wasn't on the Axis side he was with the Allies. He died in 2006, 91 years old.
Many of his friends were killed and his brother who was in italy was forced to be in the military for the Axis or else. He was captured. Not killed, and i thank god for that.
Don't laugh 1plus44, being sent to war means life or death.
R.I.P. Loui :salute
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He's talking about getting deployed overseas, not going to Afghanistan or Iraq. In 1993, my dad was called out again, married and 3 kids, 2 under 3, and 1 in Highschool, to be "deployed" again, this was around the time of the Somolia deal and my dad had been working in the Pentagon. He was thinking he was going to be in charge of casualties like in the Gulf War, instead, they sent him to Germany.
I know going to combat is a dangerous thing. My grandfather served with one of two only Army Companies in WW2 that got a Presidential Unit Citation. The other was in the same Division, Same Regiment, his sister Company. At Anzio. My grandfather served throughout the whole war, my great uncle, served in the Pacific. Made it all the way till Saipan, when he was shot by a sniper and hit by a grenade near the end. The only thing he ever told my dad about that was "when I was wounded, they thought I was gonna die. They put me outside the tent, that night, the Japanese killed everyone in the tent, but thought I was dead"
You're lucky to even know your grandfather, my grandfather died in 1989, almost 4 years before I was born. My other grandfather(if I can even call the man that, he left a 3 year old child, and a sick mother to God knows where), I am unaware, he ditched my dad when my dad was about 3, never heard from him again as far as I see it, he's dead as well.
I have much respect for the man, was not trying to offend you, but find it odd he's getting deployed, and the first thing that comes to anyone's mind ignorantly is "Iraq" or "Afghanistan"
I'll bet, if this isn't a mistake, when he gets deployed, after getting all worked up, he'll be going to Korea, or Germany. A missile operator doesn't go around with an M4 strapped to his shoulder and kicking in doors and shooting/arresting everyone inside.
I'm sorry if I offended you.
:salute 1pLUs44
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When this thread turn into offended sisters?
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I was discharged from the corps in 1994 during the force drawdown due to the end of the coldwar and the end of the first desert storm.
If they called me back up, i'm 46 now, i'd go in a minute. However i am single, no ex wives or kids and i'm not responsible for taking care of my ageing parents so i'd say my situation compared to his is very different.
I made the commitment to serve my country when i was 18 and i stand by that commitment. Once a Marine, Always a Marine!. :salute
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WOW,
I left the Air Force in 99 and am 50 years old. The aircraft I worked on are at AMOC (F-111s). I really don't think I'll be called, what could the military do with a fat 50 year old Tech Sgt???
It is good to see the military is still as messed up as it was when I was in.
LOL Phaser same boat here. I actually dreamed the other night I got picked up by the Army who was taking all vets including ex AF guys because they needed warm bodies.
I didn't even have time to tell my wife what had happened they just swooped in and grabbed a bunch of us old farts and we were off to Iraq. I remember thinking in the dream I'm too old for this crap. When I woke up I realized I'm even too old to dream crap like that. :lol
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I thought the inactive ready reserve (which seems this guy would have been placed into, since he got out prior to retirement) was 8 years. I did 4 years, then completed the full 8 year requirement by being placed in the inactive ready reserve for the remaining 4 years. I'm sure I don't know properly though; that was well over 10 years since I got out.
My husband does know a handful of retirees that were called back though.
Hubby was even stop-lossed & deployed again to Iraq before his eventual retirement. I think that was/is a common occurance.
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Dunno why they even refer to it as an "enlistment period" anymore, since you are basically theirs until they decide they don't want you anymore.
Great way to entice folks to enlist- never let them out. :huh
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It is kind of misleading how they make is sound like he is "being handed a rifle and sent back to combat". He was a missile tech for God's sake, not exactly a front line door-kicker. And that "last time he saw combat", again, anyone think he was ever really in a firefight? He may have seen a rocket strike his base, but sometimes the sensationalism the media specialize in get's carried away.
Regardless, it's a shame they are doing this to a guy who is 50 and served his time, got out and went on with his life.
Acctualy He might be a "Door-kicker" if he is deployed to Iraq. With the insurgency it is all urban fighting so colateral damage is a no go. So artillarymen are being sent in as infantry since they cant just shoot 105mm's into a highly popluated street like they did during the Invasion. My recruiter is Artillary and has been deployed twice to Iraq and he said he didnt shoot a Howizter at all, just small arms.
If he retired, not so.... They can call him back up to he is 65 or 66 years old.
Cavalry <--------retired Army guy watching his mail box.
You were a Cav Scout? I am trying to decide between enlisting as a 19D Cav Scout or 11B Infantry. Can you tell me a little bit about it? I am signing my papers in May and getting proccesed at MEPS in the 14month program ( Basicly an extended DEP enlistment)
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Acctualy He might be a "Door-kicker" if he is deployed to Iraq. With the insurgency it is all urban fighting so colateral damage is a no go. So artillarymen are being sent in as infantry since they cant just shoot 105mm's into a highly popluated street like they did during the Invasion. My recruiter is Artillary and has been deployed twice to Iraq and he said he didnt shoot a Howizter at all, just small arms.
There isn't that much "door-kicking" going on anymore in Iraq as I understand it, so the likelyhood is no, he won't be doing that. They have enough infantry to do it. If pressed into a gun toting role, it would more likely be escort duty, and I wouldn't bet to much on that.
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You were a Cav Scout? I am trying to decide between enlisting as a 19D Cav Scout or 11B Infantry. Can you tell me a little bit about it? I am signing my papers in May and getting proccesed at MEPS in the 14month program ( Basicly an extended DEP enlistment)
Bah, go 19K. Deltas are just glorified infantry anyway. :P
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I think you have 8 year obligation but 20 years on IRR if you haven't done the 8... from which they can call you back until you finish your 8. So if you did 4 they can call you back years later to do other 4. I did 6 active and then 2 in Guard so I think I am free now. I did the 2 in the Guard specifically so I I could get on with the rest of my life without worrying about getting recalled.
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I worked a TMC at north fort hood once during the ramp up for enduring freedom we had a 72 year old man report. WITH ORDERS! He was a retired MD..His feelings where he could still do his job even from a chair. Nice fellow had the guys give him a salute.
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That sucks for that guy.
Myself, I was medicaly retired with 100% disability. They can never call me back and I have that in writting too.