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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: ghi on January 03, 2009, 01:09:26 PM
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Waching this on BBC news today ,a brave Palestinian photographs an unexploded Israeli bomb, i wonder if long delay, up to few hours it's still used in bombing?!!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/7809755.stm
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45343000/jpg/_45343272_006669582-1.jpg)
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Doubtful on the long delay. Where I work there is a UXO. A 500lb bomb from one of our jets during the first air strikes in this country. The bomb went through the roof, twisted a I beam all to heck then buried itself under the concrete. When coalition forces took over the base they just cemented over it and left it. I walk over that spot atleast 100 times a day while at work.
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Dont think I would be standing that close taking a cell phone pic. I would be scared it might let the smoke out. :uhoh
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UNLEASH THE FURY, MITCH!
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Who uses a torpedo in the middle of the desert anyway? :rolleyes:
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Who would torpedo a house??
Tronsky
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Who would torpedo a house??
Tronsky
I thought that was what torps were used for...town buildings....right??? Dam you SAPP! Always get informed of the wrong info!!!!!
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You know this kinda looks like something a redneck would do.
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And now they're going to dismantle it and use it all back to the Israelis :devil
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Drop tank. :D
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Drop tank. :D
It does looks like one.... although dropping fueltanks over city is kind-a odd...
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So I'm a guy living where the Israelis are dropping bombs. I'm walking down the street and see a big hole from a bomb in a building that the Israelis for some reason deemed it necessary to destroy yet the building still stands. I think of my options:
a.) Go inside and see the unexploded ordnance because it's cool.
b.) Go inside and mill around making sure I take a cell phone photo to show my girlfriend.
c.) Go inside, mill aorund, take a cell phone photo and then find a buddy to take a picture of me doing so.
d.) Not go inside because the Israelis made this a target of primary concern and due to the fact that it's not in a pile of rubble would still make it a target of primary concern thus a second bomb that's very likely not a dud might come right throught he same hole giving me double the pleasure and double the fun of the first one making me twice as dead.
I can see how it would be difficult to get around the first 3 options failing to see the bad that is masked by all of those very good ideas.
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C :D
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Anyone got a hammer? :D
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It does look like a drop tank and not a bomb.
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Look at the top of it looks like riveted door. Gotta be a drop tank.
Why not drop it over the city you are bombing? It can do some damage too. Might be a mistake that the pilot let it go or it may have been knocked off by ground fire.
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Drop tanks don't have riveted doors on them.
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It is (I believe) a GBU-28 with the 'smart' sections missing due to impact (most likely). With 650 pounds of tritonal inside I would not want to be within a mile of it. No telling what was in the target structure but this would certainly penetrate some very hard structures and when the bang comes...
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It is (I believe) a GBU-28 with the 'smart' sections missing due to impact (most likely). With 650 pounds of tritonal inside I would not want to be within a mile of it. No telling what was in the target structure but this would certainly penetrate some very hard structures and when the bang comes...
Not even close to a GBU-28, the shape is totally wrong. A -28 has a straight body. That one is clearly tapered along its length.
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Your right... could be a 31 which I believe was the final development of smart bombs for the F-15E.
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Maybe its a smart drop tank. :rofl
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Considering the "body" of the thing isn't damaged in any way you can pretty much rule out a drop tank. Drop tanks are made out of sheet metal and designed to be as light as possible when empty. Drop one through a concrete wall and the thing will look like a crushed beer can when it's all over.
That thing in the picture looks like a standard Mk-83 1000lb bomb with the tail fins ripped off.
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That was the first thing I looked at (GBU type) but it didnt match. The 2000 lb version looks about right.
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That was the first thing I looked at (GBU type) but it didnt match. The 2000 lb version looks about right.
yup
(http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/images/gbu31_041107-m-0484-l-001.jpg)
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Its a big freakin bomb.
That's all I need to know.
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Considering the "body" of the thing isn't damaged in any way you can pretty much rule out a drop tank. Drop tanks are made out of sheet metal and designed to be as light as possible when empty. Drop one through a concrete wall and the thing will look like a crushed beer can when it's all over.
That thing in the picture looks like a standard Mk-83 1000lb bomb with the tail fins ripped off.
There's a puncture hole on the lower left hand side of it. There's no visible markings where fins would have been ripped off. No ridges, no shreds of stubble sticking off.
Looks like a drop tank to me. Only think that would confirm it is to spin it around and look for the mounting point. :(
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Its a big freakin bomb.
That's all I need to know.
Yea and they spent aton of tax payers money for something that didnt even work :aok
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Yea and they spent aton of tax payers money for something that didnt even work :aok
:huh
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Yea and they spent aton of tax payers money for something that didnt even work :aok
What exactly is the tax rate in Israel now? :eek:
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they might have been using napalm and it didnt explode and i dont think the isralies use lazer guided or gps guided bombs
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My bad. Thats not a riveted door. Still think its a drop tank. Never seen a dent like that on an un-exploded bomb.
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they might have been using napalm and it didnt explode and i dont think the isralies use lazer guided or gps guided bombs
Sure they do. They are the top U.S. customer.
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My bad. Thats not a riveted door. Still think its a drop tank. Never seen a dent like that on an un-exploded bomb.
It could be a napalm bomb as well, however, I do agree with never having seen a dent like that on a dud bomb before. The casings are just to thick for dents like that.
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It could be a napalm bomb as well, however, I do agree with never having seen a dent like that on a dud bomb before. The casings are just to thick for dents like that.
No offense Elfie but thats ignoring a lot of physical facts. There is no telling how fast that bomb was going when it hit whatever caused the dent but a fuel tank and napalm bombs are a lot softer then bomb cases and even napalm would have ripped open and spilled its contents. I would have to say this bomb was dropped shallow at a high rate of speed and simply could not penetrate whatever it hit. The nose isnt bent but the tail is and thats consistent with the way they are made. Nothing mysterious here.
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Who uses a torpedo in the middle of the desert anyway? :rolleyes:
Obviously the Israeli pilot is also a SAPP member as we're the only ones that would think of using a torpedo in the desert to take down a house.
ack-ack
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It looks like a drop tank tail down which is why the fins are not visible. They tend to tumble when they fall. A DT would explain the large dent on the side. Shear inertial would punch a DT easily through a wall.
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No offense Elfie but thats ignoring a lot of physical facts. There is no telling how fast that bomb was going when it hit whatever caused the dent but a fuel tank and napalm bombs are a lot softer then bomb cases and even napalm would have ripped open and spilled its contents. I would have to say this bomb was dropped shallow at a high rate of speed and simply could not penetrate whatever it hit. The nose isnt bent but the tail is and thats consistent with the way they are made. Nothing mysterious here.
A GBU-24 iirc is machined out of a howitzer barrel. I don't think that would puncture quite so easily.
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So does anyone know what it actually is then? drop tank, big bomb. small bomb?
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i dont think the arguement over this will ever end :lol