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Title: Field Artillary
Post by: aerosaber on January 03, 2009, 04:40:25 PM
Could be aimed same way we aim naval guns. Self propelled 155s to hammer spawn points or flatten a town.
Title: Re: Field Artillary
Post by: JunkyII on January 03, 2009, 04:45:49 PM
155s werent used till modern wars like desert storm i think and also Im pretty sure there was already a post about this, I think it was mine.....
Title: Re: Field Artillary
Post by: splitatom on January 03, 2009, 10:44:27 PM
they had i think a working model and was used in like late wwII and korea but 105 howitsers were mounted hummel and priest
Title: Re: Field Artillary
Post by: vonKrimm on January 04, 2009, 01:04:49 AM
155s weren't used till modern wars like desert storm i think and also I'm pretty sure there was already a post about this, I think it was mine.....

Inaccurate.  The M12 GMC was a self-propelled 155mm artillery piece fielded by the U.S. Army in WWII.  the gun was a m1917 or m1918, both derived from the French 155mm GPF of WWI mounted on an M3 (Grant/Lee) hull with M4 suspension.  There was also the towed 155mm M1/M2 gun, the famed "Long Tom".  Later the m1/m2 was mounted on a M4 chassis & designated the M40 GMC, aka "King Kong" and saw service beginning in Korea, except for one single M40 that made it to Europe before the end of WWII.

But anyhow, IMHO, artillery would not be a good idea for AH at this juncture.
Title: Re: Field Artillary
Post by: 71313 on January 04, 2009, 02:20:54 PM
88 where also used during this peirod
Title: Re: Field Artillary
Post by: E25280 on January 04, 2009, 02:39:35 PM
Inaccurate.  The M12 GMC was a self-propelled 155mm artillery piece fielded by the U.S. Army in WWII.  the gun was a m1917 or m1918, both derived from the French 155mm GPF of WWI mounted on an M3 (Grant/Lee) hull with M4 suspension.  There was also the towed 155mm M1/M2 gun, the famed "Long Tom".  Later the m1/m2 was mounted on a M4 chassis & designated the M40 GMC, aka "King Kong" and saw service beginning in Korea, except for one single M40 that made it to Europe before the end of WWII.
Just to add to this, splitatom, the German Hummel sported a 150mm gun.  The Russians had their SU-122s and SU-152s.  Guns of a caliber larger than 105mm mounted on armored chassis were certainly available.
Title: Re: Field Artillary
Post by: CAVPFCDD on January 04, 2009, 03:23:05 PM
refer to this thread

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,251405.0.html

and no not because its mine  :devil
Title: Re: Field Artillary
Post by: 100goon on January 04, 2009, 06:21:27 PM
ill end this now NO!!!!!!!!  :mad: :o :devil :furious :noid :t
Title: Re: Field Artillary
Post by: Banshee7 on January 04, 2009, 06:28:36 PM
SQUEAK!

fixed
Title: Re: Field Artillary
Post by: Martyn on January 05, 2009, 05:21:59 PM
I vote yes.
Towed artillery can help flatten a town, but it needs aiming and if you make it require a FOO then it won't be too easy either. Also the artillery is pretty open to air attacks (a new target for mud thumpers).
Title: Re: Field Artillary
Post by: SectorNine50 on January 05, 2009, 05:26:34 PM
I agree, this could be very useful.  I have a feeling it would also keep carriers from getting too close to airbases as well... I've personally never heard of an aircraft carrier beach landing and releasing LVT's... :P
Title: Re: Field Artillary
Post by: LTARadio on January 07, 2009, 06:26:54 AM
I think the German Hummel will be best suited for self propelled artillery. We need field artillery.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d3/Bundesarchiv_Bild_101I-219-0596-25%2C_Russland-Mitte-S%C3%BCd%2C_Panzerhaubitze_%22Hummel%22.jpg)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cd/SdKfz165.jpg/800px-SdKfz165.jpg)

<S>

LTARecon
Title: Re: Field Artillary
Post by: Tmac7 on January 07, 2009, 06:49:57 AM
and if any fighters try and get it you can get your squady to up a trusty Wirbelwind
Title: Re: Field Artillary
Post by: Martyn on January 08, 2009, 04:01:05 PM
The allies had motorised guns too - Priest, Archer, etc. And the Russians had some serious kit too. Plenty to model.
Title: Re: Field Artillary
Post by: aerosaber on January 10, 2009, 06:42:45 PM
Goon100 says no....lol.  To quote El Guapo, "Who to hell are you?". And about this obsession with Gladiators...Hmmmmm.
Title: Re: Field Artillary
Post by: Banshee7 on January 10, 2009, 06:46:51 PM
Goon100 says no....lol.  To quote El Guapo, "Who to hell are you?". And about this obsession with Gladiators...Hmmmmm.

I miss El Guapo  :(
Title: Re: Field Artillary
Post by: Airborne on January 11, 2009, 12:50:22 AM
I vote yes.
Towed artillery can help flatten a town, but it needs aiming and if you make it require a FOO then it won't be too easy either. Also the artillery is pretty open to air attacks (a new target for mud thumpers).




As an Airborne Forward Observer, I cant agree more. I would LOVE to sit some where calling artillery in using an accurate model..... I bet my Field Arty rank soars--- and yes, we would need a new score group for Field Artillery...
Title: Re: Field Artillary
Post by: aerosaber on January 12, 2009, 07:43:14 PM
Just seems like its way overdue. Just think, FA has been in warfare since the beginning. Boulders and flaming balls of tar were the early ammunition. Thanks for all the support, maybe we can get this thing rolling.
Title: Re: Field Artillary
Post by: 4deck on January 28, 2009, 11:23:06 PM
Field artillary would be great lvoe the idea. 100%  :aok, just wish it had 5" AA potential.
Title: Re: Field Artillary
Post by: skullman on January 29, 2009, 09:14:04 AM
artillery would be a great addition to game play either towed or self propelled-I would love to set up some 88's and pound a field
Title: Re: Field Artillary
Post by: Plawranc on January 30, 2009, 05:49:39 AM
First off its spelt Artillery and second HELL YEAH Pries hummel archer or isu 150

OR ALL OF THEM!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Field Artillary
Post by: moot on January 30, 2009, 05:55:21 AM
With this along with it (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,248865.msg3061015.html#msg3061015).  No point and click accuracy like ship guns' clipboard-assisted aiming.
Title: Re: Field Artillary
Post by: outbreak on January 30, 2009, 04:20:46 PM
Well if we get Field Artillery i want this:

German K5(E) 280-mm (http://www.diggerhistory.info/pages-weapons/anzio_annie.htm)

Country of Origin: Germany
Caliber: 11.02 inches (280 mm)
Barrel Length: 70.08 feet
Overall Length: 135.28 feet
Weight in Action: 214.59 tons
Elevation: 0° to 50°
Traverse: 2°
Shell and Weight: HE; 563.38 lbs
Muzzle Velocity: 3,700 fps
Maximum Range: 38.64 miles
Notes: This was one of the best workaday railway guns ever built. The K5(E) formed the background of the German railway artillery force during World War II and saw wide use. Two examples of the K5(E) survived World War II. One K5(E) is on display at Cap Griz Nez in France, the other "Anzio Annie" (above) is on display at the Aberdeen Proving Grounds Museum, Aberdeen Maryland. This particular gun is the one that was used in the shelling of the US troops during their landing at Anzio, Italy.
 
Title: Re: Field Artillary
Post by: Martyn on November 30, 2009, 03:24:10 AM
Well if we get Field Artillery i want this:

German K5(E) 280-mm (http://www.diggerhistory.info/pages-weapons/anzio_annie.htm)

Country of Origin: Germany
Caliber: 11.02 inches (280 mm)
Barrel Length: 70.08 feet
Overall Length: 135.28 feet
Weight in Action: 214.59 tons
Elevation: 0° to 50°
Traverse: 2°
Shell and Weight: HE; 563.38 lbs
Muzzle Velocity: 3,700 fps
Maximum Range: 38.64 miles
Notes: This was one of the best workaday railway guns ever built. The K5(E) formed the background of the German railway artillery force during World War II and saw wide use. Two examples of the K5(E) survived World War II. One K5(E) is on display at Cap Griz Nez in France, the other "Anzio Annie" (above) is on display at the Aberdeen Proving Grounds Museum, Aberdeen Maryland. This particular gun is the one that was used in the shelling of the US troops during their landing at Anzio, Italy.

Yes - it should be allowed, but only if it was towed into action by a KubelWagon  :P
Title: Re: Field Artillary
Post by: chris3 on November 30, 2009, 06:17:20 AM
moin

what is with this kind of artillery?
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/05/Sturmtiger_2.jpg)

would be a nice adittion to every havy tankplatton in AH.

cu chris3
Title: Re: Field Artillary
Post by: waystin2 on November 30, 2009, 07:20:31 AM
(http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm134/waystin2/NecroBumpBatman.jpg)
Title: Re: Field Artillary
Post by: WyoKId on November 30, 2009, 10:43:18 AM
big guns go boom
Title: Re: Field Artillary
Post by: Spikes on November 30, 2009, 04:05:32 PM
(http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm134/waystin2/NecroBumpBatman.jpg)
:)
Title: Re: Field Artillary
Post by: smedddd on November 30, 2009, 05:31:28 PM
This might be easier to implement. It's on a Panzer IV chassis, which we have already;.....I think it's called "Das BRUMBAR". (Sorry Lusche, my German sucks).

(http://i624.photobucket.com/albums/tt322/LTARjink/DSC_0328.jpg)

While you're looking, anyone know what this little "GEM" is?
This isn't a quiz. I don't know the answer either.

(http://i624.photobucket.com/albums/tt322/LTARjink/DSC_0363.jpg)

V/R, LTARjink
Title: Re: Field Artillary
Post by: smedddd on November 30, 2009, 05:37:31 PM
This might be easier to implement. It's on a Panzer IV chassis which we already have in game. I think it's calles "DAS BRUMBAR". (Sorry Lusche, my German sucks)

(http://i624.photobucket.com/albums/tt322/LTARjink/DSC_0328.jpg)

While you're looking; can anyone ID this little gem??
This isn't a quiz....I don't know what it is either.

(http://i624.photobucket.com/albums/tt322/LTARjink/DSC_0363.jpg)

V/R and <S>, LTARjink
Title: Re: Field Artillary
Post by: smedddd on November 30, 2009, 05:45:11 PM
This might be easier to implement. It's on a Panzer IV chassis which we already have in game. I think it's calles "DAS BRUMBAR". (Sorry Lusche, my German sucks)

(http://i624.photobucket.com/albums/tt322/LTARjink/DSC_0328.jpg)

While you're looking; can anyone ID this little gem??
This isn't a quiz....I don't know what it is either.

(http://i624.photobucket.com/albums/tt322/LTARjink/DSC_0363.jpg)

V/R and <S>, LTARjink
Title: Re: Field Artillary
Post by: smedddd on November 30, 2009, 05:49:48 PM
Triple post...sorry
Title: Re: Field Artillary
Post by: smedddd on November 30, 2009, 06:01:12 PM
Sorry again
Title: Re: Field Artillary
Post by: Cavelife on December 09, 2009, 11:24:44 AM
I think artillery would be killer, Also:  maybe a more detailed grid system. One that could be used for navigation (show elevations and the like) and..... used so that fire could be directed from artillery or tanks to specific/moving targets out of sight. If such a system already exists I apologise.
Title: Re: Field Artillary
Post by: RaptorL on December 09, 2009, 11:53:16 AM
The addition of Field artillery is a great idea. What about adding a towed Nebelwerfer.Here is a short clip of a set of Nebelwerfer's in action.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34xz-WPVZqg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34xz-WPVZqg)
Title: Re: Field Artillary
Post by: Penguin on December 09, 2009, 05:43:23 PM
Well, what about the problem of about 30 of those things popping up out of nowhere and blasting a base to smithernees in minutes.  There is no defense against something like that, as it delivers a bomber-size payload without the bomber-size wait. 

There should be some kind of a wait on those things, or perhaps a warning before you come.  Perhaps the user should have to wait five minutes after clicking to get there, and during that time a warning would be sent to the side in question.  Heavy perking would be nessecary as well.
                             
-Penguin                       
Title: Re: Field Artillary
Post by: RaptorL on December 09, 2009, 06:12:20 PM
Well, what about the problem of about 30 of those things popping up out of nowhere and blasting a base to smithernees in minutes.  There is no defense against something like that, as it delivers a bomber-size payload without the bomber-size wait. 

There should be some kind of a wait on those things, or perhaps a warning before you come.  Perhaps the user should have to wait five minutes after clicking to get there, and during that time a warning would be sent to the side in question.  Heavy perking would be nessecary as well.
                             
-Penguin                       

That takes away suprise attacks Penguin. Why not have it when the artillery's first shot hits the base or town, the Base alarm will go off.
Title: Re: Field Artillary
Post by: Penguin on December 11, 2009, 11:38:50 AM
That seems like a good idea, maybe even a special warning for the strike: Something like, "Base Under Shelling".
There just needs to be a bit of warning, since it could be used in a giant horde.  The perking should be in the 30's though, do to the stopping power of the rounds.  (Hint: You only need to hit the tread to make it go boom)

-Penguin
Title: Re: Field Artillary
Post by: hibbie2 on December 13, 2009, 05:56:41 AM
There are already a lot of German tanks how about the M18 Hellcat 40+ mph and a 76mm tank busting gun

(http://i756.photobucket.com/albums/xx209/hibbie2/m18hellcat4.jpg)

In service 1944-1957 (USA)
Specifications
Weight 17.7 tonnes (39,000 lb)
Length 6.68 m (21.9 ft) (with gun)
5.28 m (17.3 ft) (without gun)
Width 2.87 m (9.4 ft)
Height 2.57 m (8.4 ft)
Crew 5 (Commander, gunner, loader, driver, co-driver)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
Armor 5 to 25 mm (0.2 to 1.0 in)
Primary
armament 1× 76 mm (76.2 mm) M1A1 gun
45 rounds
Secondary
armament 1× .50 cal M2HB machine gun
800 rounds
Engine Continental R-975-C4, 9-cylinder, radial piston gasoline engine
340 hp (253 kW)
Power/weight 18.9 hp/tonne
Suspension Torsion bar
Operational
range 168 km (105 mi)
Title: Re: Field Artillary
Post by: AWwrgwy on December 14, 2009, 12:05:54 PM
I really shouldn't do this....:


(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg100/Userhasbeencancelled/Atomic_cannon.gif)


wrongway
Title: Re: Field Artillary
Post by: 321BAR on December 14, 2009, 01:37:53 PM
ive brought the idea of land sp or stationary field artie up many many many many ohh and many times... im still backing it  :aok
Title: Re: Field Artillary
Post by: Templar on December 22, 2009, 01:32:55 AM
+1 for mobile artillery, especially Bishop, and Hummel. In addition +1 for the M-18!
Title: Re: Field Artillary
Post by: Scotty55OEFVet on December 22, 2009, 05:15:56 PM
155s werent used till modern wars like desert storm i think and also Im pretty sure there was already a post about this, I think it was mine.....

155mm Paladins were used during hte Vietnam War.  Read your history books.  Not sure if they were called Paladins, but US gave a bunch of them to the ARVN. 
Title: Re: Field Artillary
Post by: saantana on December 23, 2009, 07:49:20 AM
Inaccurate.  The M12 GMC was a self-propelled 155mm artillery piece fielded by the U.S. Army in WWII.  the gun was a m1917 or m1918, both derived from the French 155mm GPF of WWI mounted on an M3 (Grant/Lee) hull with M4 suspension.  There was also the towed 155mm M1/M2 gun, the famed "Long Tom".  Later the m1/m2 was mounted on a M4 chassis & designated the M40 GMC, aka "King Kong" and saw service beginning in Korea, except for one single M40 that made it to Europe before the end of WWII.

But anyhow, IMHO, artillery would not be a good idea for AH at this juncture.

Do you just pull all of this info out of your bottom or do you obtain it from a reliable source and copy it?

No pun intended. I just wish sources were quoted more often.

 :salute
Title: !
Post by: Puck on December 23, 2009, 11:58:00 AM
The mission of the field artillery is to kill as many godless communist bastards [ROOKS] and their subhuman immoral cohorts [BISHOPS] as possible with the least expenditure of munitions, and to coordinate all supporting fires so as to restore cave-dwelling as the default form of habitation in the former-communist region.

+1.  Knight only, of course, because Knights are brave and pure and true and all-around great people and would never use this new technology without just cause.  No LTARs at all, though
Title: Re: Field Artillary
Post by: Lusche on December 23, 2009, 12:03:39 PM
This might be easier to implement. It's on a Panzer IV chassis which we already have in game. I think it's calles "DAS BRUMBAR". (Sorry Lusche, my German sucks)

 :)

Der Brummbär
(If you can't type Umlaut, it's Brummbaer)


While you're looking; can anyone ID this little gem??
This isn't a quiz....I don't know what it is either.

It's a twin 12,8 cm Flak 40
Title: Re: !
Post by: OSU on December 23, 2009, 10:14:21 PM
The mission of the field artillery is to kill as many godless communist bastards [ROOKS] and their subhuman immoral cohorts [BISHOPS] as possible with the least expenditure of munitions, and to coordinate all supporting fires so as to restore cave-dwelling as the default form of habitation in the former-communist region.
:rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Field Artillary
Post by: Penguin on December 24, 2009, 09:00:23 AM
Oh great, now the cause is religous too, huh?

Guess you guys really hate those science books!

  :banana:

-Penguin

Title: Re: Field Artillary
Post by: 321BAR on December 25, 2009, 05:02:43 PM
I think the German Hummel will be best suited for self propelled artillery. We need field artillery.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d3/Bundesarchiv_Bild_101I-219-0596-25%2C_Russland-Mitte-S%C3%BCd%2C_Panzerhaubitze_%22Hummel%22.jpg)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cd/SdKfz165.jpg/800px-SdKfz165.jpg)

<S>

LTARecon
we also got the british/american Priest
Title: Re: !
Post by: WyoKId on December 26, 2009, 10:28:15 PM
The mission of the field artillery is to kill as many godless communist bastards [ROOKS] and their subhuman immoral cohorts [BISHOPS] as possible with the least expenditure of munitions, and to coordinate all supporting fires so as to restore cave-dwelling as the default form of habitation in the former-communist region.





God bless the Field Artillary , add five-zero , fire for effect baybeee!!!!!
Title: Re: Field Artillary
Post by: Scotty55OEFVet on December 28, 2009, 01:43:30 PM
155s werent used till modern wars like desert storm i think and also Im pretty sure there was already a post about this, I think it was mine.....

From WW2 book written by Donald Sommerville, along with corresponding picture and text:  "A US 155mm M1 Long Tom gun, in Action on Leyte during November 1944".  I have maade posts without doing research so just for future reference...unless Desert Storm was fought in 1944, the 155mm guns were in service since 1942 or 1943.
Title: Re: Field Artillary
Post by: Eric122 on January 18, 2010, 05:28:42 PM
an 88 would be cool