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Title: Radar Detection - Dot vs. Bar
Post by: Furious on November 16, 2001, 05:32:00 PM

My idea for new arena radar settings is loosely based upon actual radar nomographs for determining radar detection ranges as illustrated below.

 (http://home.earthlink.net/~gwnaylor/_uimages/dar.GIF)

A. Enemy Aircraft within radar envelope – Dot Dar, Bar Dar
B. Enemy Aircraft outside radar envelope, but in visual range – Bar Dar
C. Enemy Aircraft outside radar envelope and outside visual range – None
D. Friendly Aircraft

This system would provide more “realistic” detection, and would also provide a last minute warning to the bases under attack.


F.

Title: Radar Detection - Dot vs. Bar
Post by: Karnak on November 16, 2001, 05:47:00 PM

Neat idea.

What do you mean by "visual range"?

Visual range of the base?

Visual range of enemy territory in which they have spotters

Something else?

Thanks.

Title: Radar Detection - Dot vs. Bar
Post by: Furious on November 16, 2001, 05:49:00 PM

Karnak,

By visual range I meant within visual range of any player controlled vehicle, whether the player actually sees it or not.

F.

Title: Radar Detection - Dot vs. Bar
Post by: Karnak on November 16, 2001, 07:36:00 PM

Ah.

That might be a bit harsh during off peak hours, but I think it would make little difference with the evening numbers we've had lately.

By little difference, I mean in how often no bar dar was displayed, not no difference from the current radar system.

Title: Radar Detection - Dot vs. Bar
Post by: Bozon12 on November 16, 2001, 10:55:00 PM

Furious,
real radars can't "see" directly up. the beam usually is up to ~20 degrees. this is especialy true for WWII 2D radar, in which the EM pulses covers a banana shaped space. you can only tell if there is/isn't a target in the banana, you don't know where it is inside it. had the beam been too high and you spot a target at 4 miles, you wouldn't know if it's 4 miles away or strait up!
that is why radars are used in chains so each radar covers the space directly above it's neighbours.
we have to assume that there are radar stations outside of bases.

Bozon

Title: Radar Detection - Dot vs. Bar
Post by: Furious on November 17, 2001, 01:09:00 AM

Karnak-  Good point.  Maybe get rid of visual range for bar dar.

Bozon-  I understand that.  That is why I said loosely.

Thanks for the replies.  <S>

F.

[ 12-03-2001: Message edited by: Furious ]

Title: Radar Detection - Dot vs. Bar
Post by: popeye on November 19, 2001, 07:32:00 AM

Good idea.  This would provide some altitude information that we don't get now; the farther the dot is from the radar tower, the higher his altitude.  At the same time, it would allow NOE attacks with a "realistic" warning when close to the field.