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Help and Support Forums => Technical Support => Topic started by: hodag on January 04, 2009, 11:21:38 PM
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I warp alot. I have been on the boards and tried everything i can think of. I have vista and have reconfigured as shown by skuzzy. I just DL the ping tracer and am posting the results. I dont know what thaey mean but I am hoping someone can tell me. I turn off all spyware/virus progs. I run AH2 in admin mode. Please help. lol
Thanks
Hodag
Target Name: N/A
IP: 206.16.60.39
Date/Time: 1/4/2009 11:16:32 PM
1 17 ms 9 ms 8 ms 7 ms [10.131.64.1]
2 7 ms 9 ms 14 ms 10 ms static.unknown.charter.com [96.34.20.74]
3 18 ms 16 ms 26 ms 14 ms static.unknown.charter.com [96.34.16.35]
4 15 ms 13 ms 15 ms 14 ms [172.18.98.22]
5 16 ms 14 ms 18 ms 14 ms static.unknown.charter.com [96.34.16.145]
6 15 ms 16 ms 17 ms 14 ms static.unknown.charter.com [96.34.16.211]
7 23 ms 23 ms 24 ms 22 ms [12.86.31.97]
8 49 ms 58 ms 51 ms 59 ms cr2.cgcil.ip.att.net [12.122.132.46]
9 59 ms 48 ms 49 ms 48 ms cr2.sl9mo.ip.att.net [12.122.2.22]
10 49 ms 48 ms 50 ms 56 ms cr1.sl9mo.ip.att.net [12.122.2.217]
11 49 ms 47 ms 54 ms 56 ms cr2.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.3.221]
12 48 ms 48 ms 47 ms 48 ms gar5.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.138.5]
13 52 ms 83 ms 51 ms 48 ms mdf1-gsr12-1-pos-7-0.dal1.attens.net [12.122.255.82]
14 50 ms 56 ms 50 ms 72 ms mdf1-bi8k-1-eth-1-3.dal1.attens.net [63.241.192.206]
15 49 ms 52 ms 50 ms 51 ms [206.16.60.39]
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Need to see a DXDIAG output.
Also note, if you install the game in another folder, rather than the default "Program Files", then a number of things will work better. Vista just does a number of bad things to programs installed in the "Program Files" folder.
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In fact you will see better performance if you install the game to a second hard drive (not a second partition) if you are using a Vista system. Please tell us you are not using Norton.
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Norton + Vista = Well, you might as well rent a wood chipper and toss your computer in it. It will alleviate a number of frustrations.
Disclaimer: The above is meant to be taken as levity. Although there is a truth to it, actually throwing a computer into a wood chipper is not advised no matter how irritated you are. If you chose to do so, it is your choice and I cannot, nor will not, be held accountable.
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Norton + Vista = Well, you might as well rent a wood chipper and toss your computer in it. It will alleviate a number of frustrations.
Disclaimer: The above is meant to be taken as levity. Although there is a truth to it, actually throwing a computer into a wood chipper is not advised no matter how irritated you are. If you chose to do so, it is your choice and I cannot, nor will not, be held accountable.
:rofl
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Norton + Vista = Well, you might as well rent a wood chipper and toss your computer in it. It will alleviate a number of frustrations....
Didn't you forget Bill Gates? ;)
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Thanks for the respone. I'm not sure how to find the dxdiag output. The anti virus is trend and the spy is webroot spysweeper. I do turn both off when I run AH. I had previously installed ah to a non prog file directory. The only thing i may have done wrong was to then copy ALL the files from the original (programfiles) directory into the new one so it would have all my skins and views saved.
Thanks Hodag
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Start -> Run. Type in: dxdiag
Press OK. Now wait for the application to load (Loading bar is on the bottom left). Afterward press, "Save all Information..." Now save the file to a location easy to find, such as your desktop. After saving the file, go to the location where you saved it and open the file. Now copy the first third (1/3) of the file and paste it in a response here.
That's your DxDiag.
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Bill had little to do with Vista. Actually he has been one of the opponents against it and has been pretty public about it.
Here are the steps to get the DXDIAG output:
1) Go to "Start" from the Windows desktop
2) Select "Run" from the pop up menu
3) In the Run dialog box, type DXDIAG and press <ENTER>
4) After a few seconds the DXDIAG utility will be ready
5) Press the "Save All Information" button
6) This will save the DXDIAG data to a file of your choice
7) Once you have done this, simply email the file to me and I can look for any issues your system might have.
NOTE: If you do not see the "Run" option when you press the "Start" button, then right-click on the "Start" button, select "Properties", then switch the view mode to "Classic". This will allow you to see the "Run" menu option again.
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ok here it is.
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System Information
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Time of this report: 1/5/2009, 16:56:41
Machine name: HOME
Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Premium (6.0, Build 6001) Service Pack 1 (6001.vistasp1_gdr.080917-1612)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: HP-Pavilion
System Model: GX611AA-ABA m8300f
BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6000+ (2 CPUs), ~3.0GHz
Memory: 2942MB RAM
Page File: 988MB used, 5120MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 10
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 6.00.6001.18000 32bit Unicode
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DxDiag Notes
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Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.
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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)
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Display Devices
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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce 6150SE nForce 430
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_03D0&SUBSYS_2A61103C&REV_A2
Display Memory: 1336 MB
Dedicated Memory: 121 MB
Shared Memory: 1215 MB
Current Mode: 1680 x 1050 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: HP w2207 Wide LCD Monitor
Driver Name: nvd3dum.dll
Driver Version: 7.15.0011.6222 (English)
DDI Version: 9Ex
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 7/6/2007 19:45:00, 4788224 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp:
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4090-11CF-C26B-6A0A02C2CA35}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x03D0
SubSys ID: 0x2A61103C
Revision ID: 0x00A2
Revision ID: 0x00A2
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Oh Boy! Integrated stuff! Vista will not run well with all that.
Video card is barely adequate and sound I dont see any details on. 6150 is not a good Vista gaming chip.
Page file should be set manually to Minimum size: 4608 MB and Max size: 9216 MB
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It is also a dual-core AMD CPU. You will need to run the game in Windows 98/Windows ME compatibility mode due to a bug in the AMD dual-core CPU's we happen to hit.
Right-click on the game start-up ICON, select "Properties", then select the "Compatibility" tab, check the option to run the application in compatibility mode, then select "Windows 98/Windows ME" from the drop down list. This will force the game to run on only one core of the CPU.
Next, the 6150 video chip is really a very, very low end video device. To have a chance at all of running the game decently, you will need to set the game resolution to 800x600, and then set the "Maximum Texture Size" to 128.
To improve the performance, you really will need to spend a lot of time disabling the various amount of background services Vista has running by default. First off, disable the Aero desktop it if is enabled and running. Next, kill "Superfetch" as if it a world class resource hog.
To really get the best out of your computer, you should get a decent video card. The 6150 chip is holding back your computer and its ability to run real-time 3D graphics.
It really is a nice system strapped with a $2 video chip.
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Dangit Skuzzy! You added your edit AFTER I threw my rig in the wood chipper! :furious
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Norton + Vista = Well, you might as well rent a wood chipper and toss your computer in it. It will alleviate a number of frustrations.
Disclaimer: The above is meant to be taken as levity. Although there is a truth to it, actually throwing a computer into a wood chipper is not advised no matter how irritated you are. If you chose to do so, it is your choice and I cannot, nor will not, be held accountable.
That there's funny, I don't care who ya are :rofl
(Lord,Iapologize..andbewiththestravinpygmiesdowntharinNewGuiniamen)
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so what do you do if you ARE running vista and nortons ?? :cry
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so what do you do if you ARE running vista and nortons ?? :cry
Reinstall Vista and toss Norton for Eset Nod32.
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Ok i'll try the res setting, I had already read about the win98/me mode and done that. How do you shut off superfetch and the other vista bkgrnd stuff? What video card would you reccomend and roughly what can I expect to spend? I really appreciate all the help.
Thanks
Hodag
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At the top of the Technical Support Thread there is a sticky about how to set up for vista. I believe that all the "hows" are in there.
There are a lot of different video cards out there. As a rule of thumb I'd spend at least $100 on one. Less than that and you'll get a card that will work, but my give you trouble when you push it in the game. First find out whether our mother board takes AGP, or PCI express. I'm guessing PCI express because you have vista and the PCI express is the newer technology. Once your sure which "type" of card you need, go to Toms Hareware. They are doing write ups on video cards all the time as well as put up nice charts to compare card to card.
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Careful about a new video card. Many HP computers cannot be upgraded as they pull the physical slots off the motherboard to save them money. If it can be upgraded, your next concern will be the power supply. All OEM's use just enough power supply to power the supplied components. Adding a higher power device can cause a lot of problems.
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will installing the game in another folder, rather than the default "Program Files", work better with XP too?