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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Unit791 on January 05, 2009, 02:57:13 PM
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There isn't really any true russian bomber other than the IL-2 (which isn't good at level bombing), so I believe the Tu-2 would be a nice touch
General characteristics
Crew: 4
Length: 13.80 m (45 ft 3 in)
Wingspan: 18.86 m (61 ft 10 in)
Height: 4.13 m (13 ft 7 in)
Wing area: 48.5 m² (522 ft²)
Empty weight: 7,601 kg (16,757 lb)
Loaded weight: 10,538 kg (23,232 lb)
Max takeoff weight: 11,768 kg (25,944 lb)
Powerplant: 2× Shvetsov ASh-82 radial engines, 1,380 kW (1,850 hp) each
Performance
Maximum speed: 521 km/h (281 kt, 325 mph)
Range: 2,020 km (1,090 nm, 1,260 mi)
Service ceiling 9,000 m (30,000 ft)
Rate of climb: 8.2 m/s (1,610 ft/min)
Wing loading: 217 kg/m² (45 lb/ft²)
Power/mass: 260 W/kg (0.16 hp/lb)
Armament
Guns:
2× 20 mm (0.79 in) fixed forward-firing ShVAK cannons in the wings
3× 7.62 mm (0.30 in) rear-firing ShKAS machine guns (later replaced by 12.7 mm (0.50 in)Berezin UB machine guns) in the canopy, dorsal and ventral hatches.
Bombs:
Internal 1,500 kg (3,300 lb)
External 2,270 kg (5,000 lb)
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I would love to see this added. For further consideration check out the PE-2 as it would be a worthy add to the game also.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/Pe-2.jpg)
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Yeah definatley, the Tu-2 and Pe-2 would be great!
Pe-2:
General characteristics
Crew: Three - pilot, gunner, bombardier
Length: 12.66 m (41 ft 6 in)
Wingspan: 17.16 m (56 ft 3 in)
Height: 3.5 m (11 ft 6 in)
Wing area: 40.5 m² (436 ft²)
Empty weight: 5,875 kg (12,952 lb)
Loaded weight: 7,563 kg (16,639 lb)
Max takeoff weight: 8,495 kg (18,728 lb)
Powerplant: 2× Klimov M-105PF liquid-cooled V-12, 903 kW (1,210 hp) each
Performance
Maximum speed: 580 km/h (360 mph)
Range: 1,160 km (721 miles)
Service ceiling 8,800 m (28,870 ft)
Rate of climb: 7.2 m/s (1,410 ft/min)
Wing loading: 186 kg/m² (38 lb/ft²)
Power/mass: 250 W/kg (0.15 hp/lb)
Armament
Guns:
2x 7.62 mm fixed ShKAS machine guns in the nose, one replaced by a 12.7 mmBerezin UB on later versions.
2x rearward firing 7.62 mm ShKAS.
From the middle of 1942 defensive armament included 1 Berezin UB machine gun in the upper bombardier's turret, 1 Berezin UB in gunner's ventral hatch and 1 ShKAS which could be fired by a gunner from port, starboard or upper mountings[3]
Some planes were also equipped with DAG-10 launcher, firing AG-2 parachute timed grenades.
Bombs: 1,600 kg (3,520 lb) of bombs
It would be soo cool to see these added! :aok
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Along with the HE-111. :)
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(http://il2)
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i suppose 111 would be ok too
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Top 4 level bombers needed for this game:
Pe-2
Tu-2
G4M
He-111
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Would be some nice additions right there. More Russian and Jap planes would be nice as they are rather under represented. A few more British bombers and Italian planes would be killer too.
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Pe-2 wasthe most produced bomber of the VVS after the Il2.
Strangely the IL2 was not considered a dive bomber but rather a low level ground assault aircraft.
The PE 2 was infact designed as a level & dive bomber (like the ju88) with early versions having a glass nose section and air brakes to facilitate dive attacks.
The TU-2 is just the prettiest bomber of the GPW with a B17 payload and a decent air speed the 1943/4 model could be very popular
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Strangely the IL2 was not considered a dive bomber but rather a low level ground assault aircraft.
Strangely? With those cannons that's exactly what I'd expect! :P
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I think we need a balanced planes/vehicles across all countries and across all time periods.
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B29
:noid
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Top 4 level bombers needed for this game:
Pe-2
Wellington B.Mk III
G4M
He-111
Fixed.
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Lol "The Neatherlands" <S> Unit +1 for the Rusky planes.
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lol i like them, I know this will be rejected but it would be VERY interesting to see a Fokker G.I. :rock
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I'm all for adding to the planes we have, but there is the possibility that for some (especially Russian planes) the data necessary is just not available. I would guess that HTC would rather not add a plane than add it with improvised flight data.
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:huh ?? not have the data
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This would be a great addition along with the Pe2, He111, G4M, and Wellington!
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Ive been asking for the TU-2 for a year now. Hopefully we'll have it soon, "visions of LAs,39s,ILs,Yaks,TUs, in the air together in a historical correct combined OP". The Tupolev story is just to fascinating to leave out of the game.
The version with the LW M-82 radials would fit in nicely. The TU-2 saw action on both Soviets fronts and had a big hand in the breakthru into the greater Reich. This is just to effective and important an airplane to leave out of the game. Were actually talking almost A-26 performance and bombload and I'd really love to see the Soviet set filled out a bit more. :salute
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http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,247190.0.html
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:aok :aok Two thumbs up on that Odisseo
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Sounds good :aok
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Lol Tunguska
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:lol
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Tu-2 :aok
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The IL-4 or Tu-2 would be the best Soviet bombers to add, imo. No doubt, the Soviets need a level bomber.
The IL-4 due to its service throughout the war. It had a good range of 1600 miles albeit only 2200lb of ord capability. However, the IL-4 could carry 3 torps! It was the Soviet's main bomber that attacked Berlin on a consistant basis. It is sort of the He111 of the Red air force. :) It remained almost unchanged from 1937 to 1945. Over 5000 were produced.
The Tu-2 was a late war (June 1944) bomber that is able to hammer ground targets both via level bombing and direct attack by using its 6600lbs of ord or its dual wing mounted 20mm cannons. Its max speed is 340mph at 17,000ft. It has a range of 1200 miles and over 1100 of them were built.
The Pe-2 would be a decent addition for a light bomber I do suppose. It was able to carry 2600lbs of ord, but was weak in offensive guns. My data is showing it was used as a dive bomber and not a level bomber, but I'm sure someone else is able to comment better. Oh, it did serve throughout the war and over 11,000 of them were produced.
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If i recall right the Tu-2 had divebreaks and could carry 2 torps as well :aok
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Il-4's defenses were weak as well, and it was nothing special speedwise. The Pe-2 was quite fast.
All three would be good additions.
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Bung em in.
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I think we already have the KBF's most common torpedo carrying attack ac modelled in game
(http://www.bellabs.ru/51/Photos/1GMTAP_Gagiev-plane_06.jpg)
Unfortunately we do not have the Torpedoes to go with it!