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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: 1pLUs44 on January 08, 2009, 06:36:16 PM
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I saw the movie "Pearl Harbor" last night (uggh... I know)
And I noticed on the spitfires that the dude flew had only 2 20mms on them (or maybe 2 .50s)
Did spitfires ever have only 2 20mms on them?
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there were .303s there as well.
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also...the Spitfire it shows Rafe flying is in 303 markings (a Polish squad) and has a four bladed prop (which didn't show up until 1942 and the scene is in 1941)
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also...the Spitfire it shows Rafe flying is in 303 markings (a Polish squad) and has a four bladed prop (which didn't show up until 1942 and the scene is in 1941)
We've already established that aircraft can change the number of blades on their prop in-flight. Robert Conrad did it all the time; in fact he'd frequently land a totally different aircraft than he used to take off. That's skill.
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:rofl
I found like 5 sights listing things wrong about Pearl Harbor
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I feel bad for the Editors of WWII History magazine. There was a "whats wrong with this scene" question they published several months back about a scene from that movie, and there were at least 3 correct answers for that one question. Must have been an interesting month of letters.
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I saw the movie "Pearl Harbor" last night (uggh... I know)
And I noticed on the spitfires that the dude flew had only 2 20mms on them (or maybe 2 .50s)
Did spitfires ever have only 2 20mms on them?
If you are looking at that movie for any kind of historical accuraccy, you are gonna be hurting big time.
That being said, there were Spits that carried only 2 20mms. The first cannon Spit used in combat was a Spitfire Ib with 2 20mms. It was not popular due to gun jams but was tested in the B of B by 19 squadron among others. There were numerous instances where Spit drivers took the 303s out to save weight too and only went with the 2 20mms.
But throw that movie out for any kind of history please :)
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Well if you want to be depressed, this movie actually made money.
Although the movie cost approximately U.S. $132 million to film and promote, it grossed a relatively modest US$200 million at the domestic box office, but it soon earned a respectable $450 million worldwide. Despite many believing it was a disappointment, the film was actually one of the highest-earning pictures of 2001. Pearl Harbor was released on DVD on 4 December 2001, three days before the actual 60th anniversary of the attack.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_Harbor_(film)
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I think I read that those were Spitfire XIVs in the movie.
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I think I read that those were Spitfire XIVs in the movie.
They were perk rides.
wrongway
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They were perk rides.
wrongway
Perk Ben Arselick!
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I think I read that those were Spitfire XIVs in the movie.
Not XIVs, but definitely not the Mk Is and IIs that would have been appropriate.
Though, can you imagine the effect if the Germans had sent Bf109E-4s, Bf110C-4s, Ju87Bs, He111H-6s, Ju88A-5s and Do17Zs at Britain and met Spitfire Mk XIVs defending it?
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The Germans would of won anyway; only n00bs fly Spits. :rofl
Sorry, I had to say it and was meant completely in jest. I didn't intend to have that reflect the real spit flyers during WWII. :salute
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The Japanese had poor vulching skills in the film. :lol :lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx_x2TkenbY
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That flea ridden potato-abortion of a movie should have died a miserable death- something involving festering sores and what not.
My family thinks I'm crazy, but I can't help it. Every time this heretical bigtoe movie comes up, I get so diddlyin' pissed it's unbelievable.
If you wanna make a movie that takes place during ww2, fine. If you wanna make that movie about love in a time of war, fine. If you wanna throw Jerry Springer antics in ther just for giggles, fine.
But DO NOT come to me and tell me you're making this arse licking snikerdoo movie out of "respect to the vets", then hold press conferences capitalizing on "the few".
Michael Bay is on my toejam list bigtime. I wouldn't hesitate to break that apple suckers nose if I saw him across the street.
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I swore I saw torpedo bombers flying over the airfield at low level in that movie, with there torpedos still on them
I wanted to throw up after watching that movie
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Don't hold back rebel, why don't you tell us how you really feel? :aok
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Not XIVs, but definitely not the Mk Is and IIs that would have been appropriate.
Though, can you imagine the effect if the Germans had sent Bf109E-4s, Bf110C-4s, Ju87Bs, He111H-6s, Ju88A-5s and Do17Zs at Britain and met Spitfire Mk XIVs defending it?
Not XIVs but at least one Spit V. B of B Flight has a Spit II that is a B of B vet, and just recently a Spit Ia AR213 got back in the air, so it's possible to have the correct 8 mg birds now. Plenty of Hurri's up and about as well.
They should do Piece of Cake again, with Hurri's as it should have been instead of Spits.
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Don't hold back rebel, why don't you tell us how you really feel? :aok
I'll get banned if I do that :frown:
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wait....what were spits doing at pearl harbour? :confused:
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wait....what were spits doing at pearl harbour? :confused:
Youve never seen the movie have you? You lucky.....
There was a scene during BoB when Ben Afleck is flying Spit V's against HE111's, where he yells 'HAMMER DOWN!' He should have been publicly shot for even thinking of saying that!
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so he was fighting the battle of britian on the wrong side of the planet and long after it finished in an aircraft that didnt take part in it?
:huh
I think ill give that film a miss....
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Not taking up for the makers of the movie but..you have to see it to understand it
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ok okok, let me run this by you. He joins up with an Eagle Squadron to 'Do His Bit' for England. His bit could have been done better by taking a long walk of a short pier with a weight attached. ANYWAY, I digress. He fights in the BoB as you said in a plane put into service a long time after.
Your probarbly smart to give it a miss. It has got to be one of the saddest films ever made, and I dont mean that in the crying way
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Wait, Eagle Squadrons weren't used till 1941, where they? At that time, the B of B was pretty much over, and the LW were busy preparing for Operation Barbosoa. Is this movie really that inaccurate? :huh
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Wait, Eagle Squadrons weren't used till 1941, where they? At that time, the B of B was pretty much over, and the LW were busy preparing for Operation Barbosoa. Is this movie really that inaccurate? :huh
Yes.
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If you are looking at that movie for any kind of historical accuraccy, you are gonna be hurting big time.
That being said, there were Spits that carried only 2 20mms. The first cannon Spit used in combat was a Spitfire Ib with 2 20mms. It was not popular due to gun jams but was tested in the B of B by 19 squadron among others. There were numerous instances where Spit drivers took the 303s out to save weight too and only went with the 2 20mms.
But throw that movie out for any kind of history please :)
God no, not looking for any historical accuracy, just bugged me though to only see 2 20mms. Kinda wondered if the real life spits had em.
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Wait, Eagle Squadrons weren't used till 1941, where they? At that time, the B of B was pretty much over, and the LW were busy preparing for Operation Barbosoa. Is this movie really that inaccurate? :huh
Oh, it get's worse.
First off, :salute to all you guys who could actually tell what friggin' spit he was driving during that shakey cam (tm) bit.
He gets shot down in the BoB, comes back to america, flies with his friend and fights the japanese at pearl harbor in a P-40 that acts like an F-104 starfighter right off the runway. Displayin his ho-tard ack weenie tactics, he drags zeroes by a tower for his ground pounding buddies to shoot down with M1's and pistols.
Yeah.
After Pearl harbor (they land, dummy- they're the heroes), they're brought in by an Army Air Corps general who's planning the doolittle raid. So they get up to snuff in B-25's and go bomb tokyo (with extreme pwnage being delivered), and ditch it in China (next to the ever-so-clearly marked Japanese tents. 'cuz, you know, all things japanese have to have a big red meatball on 'em- emporor tojo said so). Of course our heroes have the super-uber 1911 .45's with Japanese seeking ammo and hold off assault after assault.
Yeah.
anyway, that's about what the film has to do with WW2, and we're not even talking the main f***ing plot here. There's a LOVE story in this whole thing that'd make ma an' pa Barker go :huh ?
Now here's what REALLY pisses me off about this suckwangfest... Bay made it out to be some tribute to the diddlying veterans. Yeah. Even had vets from Pearl Harbor doing interviews and sh**.
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My favorite review of the movie said "The story of the dastardly Japanese attack on an American love triangle."
Pretty much sums it up.
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The irony it wasn't even a GOOD love triangle. No fricken way he sends a telegram he survived, and it arrives MONTHS LATER the day he shows up. I've had a friend (female, who loved the movie) tell me it doesn't matter, it's just a love story. I think it makes a HUGE difference because they're disregarding reality for the benefit of what passed for "plot."
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The bit I loved is the event which the named the darn film after took up only 15-20 mins of a 2hr film!
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But it has Kate Beckinsale....
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Kate Beckinsale - Niice 'arris, rubbish actress!
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The #1 goal of that movie was to entertain, not show historcial fact. Take it for what it is, drink a beer, and relax.
Yeah, I watched the movie and in the back of my mind I nit-picked bits and pieces but ultimatly it wasnt that bad, it was a real spitfire/109/P40, etc that were in the air and not com CG imagage, be glad for that. A BAR, a shotgun, a few bolt action rifles, etc are not going to bring down a fast moving zeke, etc. LOTS of drama stuff. But again, it is a hollywood movie, not a historical drama.
The BoBros series if the best yet, imo, when it comes to realism and war.
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The #1 goal of that movie was to entertain, not show historcial fact. Take it for what it is, drink a beer, and relax.
No. NO! NO NO NO!
That snikerdoo dragged vets out of their homes, he HIMSELF saying it was "an important historical piece, probably the most important I've ever done".
Screw him. Right in the arse. Broom handle, old one. Lots of splinters. With smallpox, yeah, that'd be good. What a whoopeeed fraudulent piece o garbage.
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My GF at the time took me to see it, then apologised when we left. Even she said it was an abomination- doesn't know anything about history or the planes and ll that, but she went in expecting a movie about Pearl Harbor, not two pretty boy supermen boinking the same skank of a nurse and getting all worked up over it.
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This song sums up my feelings on Pearl Harbor.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pM8PrqY5Rg
Granted Team America is no gem, but this part of it was great. :aok
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That song is awsome, as are I think all the songs in that movie.
Also, Rebel "suckwangfest" may be the funniest term I've heard in months. Thank you for making my Monday not suck quite as much :)
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This song sums up my feelings on Pearl Harbor.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pM8PrqY5Rg
Granted Team America is no gem, but this part of it was great. :aok
On a related note- Cthulhu, you may be happy to know that I both voted for you in the last presidential election and sport your fish on the trunk lid of my car.
Please don't eat my soul.
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That song is awsome, as are I think all the songs in that movie.
Also, Rebel "suckwangfest" may be the funniest term I've heard in months. Thank you for making my Monday not suck quite as much :)
I live to serve, my friend :)
Maybe grammatically a little bit off, though. I think it should be "wangsuckfest". I'll leave it open to interpretation. I was pretty steamed when writing that :D
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On a related note- Cthulhu, you may be happy to know that I both voted for you in the last presidential election and sport your fish on the trunk lid of my car.
Please don't eat my soul.
Nobody get's taken off my list. Nothing personal, just business. But I did move your name down a bit. I've got a reputation to uphold. .... you understand. :devil
So truthfully, does the new avatar kick bellybutton or what?
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Avatar rocks, but you need the fish in your sig. It looks great on my Evil Black Mustang. :rock
(http://images.comicbookresources.com/litg/2008/0527/sm/fish3zt8.jpg)
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Avatar rocks, but you need the fish in your sig. It looks great on my Evil Black Mustang. :rock
(http://images.comicbookresources.com/litg/2008/0527/sm/fish3zt8.jpg)
I need that on the back of my S2000, but most people would probably think it's just another weird Japanese aftermarket company. Then again, maybe Mugen actually was the Ancient Cosmic God of Loud Obnoxious Exhausts. ;)