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Title: My latest 'epic hardcore' Aces High II video (in HD)
Post by: drewgordon on January 09, 2009, 11:32:06 AM
 :noid
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-CsqEy1Rkfo
 :lol
The music is very punky, so be warned, and it's long so best to let it stream in HD before playing it.
 :rock
It's in four sections, the first ('Retard and Feathered') is just one of those situations where your engine cuts out in the thick of vultching a non-pacified field - the guy in the tank shot me in the head - but I still got an assist on the P51 that I shot with my pistol.
 :aok
Then ('Deathface'!) It's all about taking a 262 to tank town for the second section which changes into a montage of first-person killing for the third section and back to the 262 at tank town for the climactic section. "Hit those afterburners buddy!"
 :salute


Title: Re: My latest 'epic hardcore' Aces High II video (in HD)
Post by: drewgordon on January 09, 2009, 04:58:03 PM
Feel free to comment!
 :t
Title: Re: My latest 'epic hardcore' Aces High II video (in HD)
Post by: Messiah on January 09, 2009, 05:13:31 PM
Quite possibly the worst movie/music i've ever seen/heard.
Title: Re: My latest 'epic hardcore' Aces High II video (in HD)
Post by: Fulmar on January 09, 2009, 05:21:40 PM
Was the even music?  I'm a pretty big punk fan and that was just random garbage if you ask me.

Anyways, I had a hard time following the action when you'd be in the cockpit and you'd go to an external shot and back to the cockpit and back outside again.  It didn't feel very organized and there were just a collection of random clips, which can be fine but they have to have a little cohesion with each other.

Wasn't a fan at all.
Title: Re: My latest 'epic hardcore' Aces High II video (in HD)
Post by: drewgordon on January 09, 2009, 06:38:23 PM
Pfft. I bet you hated 'Speed Racer' too, and the music is lovely in my opinion.  :rock
Thanks for responding though!  :devil
Title: Re: My latest 'epic hardcore' Aces High II video (in HD)
Post by: Krusty on January 09, 2009, 07:00:26 PM
If your intention is to mimic the universally-hated "Speed Racer" you started out already failing.

That said, I really didn't like it at all. You really couldn't see much, and when you could it was all disjointed, with random camera movements, cuts, changes, and on top of that it was 10 minutes long. I ended up skipping through the progress bar several times and didn't feel I'd missed anything important whenever I did.

And yes, I feel the "music" definitely detracts. It might have been simply "bland" with another choice of music, but overall the total package is extremely hard to sit through.
Title: Re: My latest 'epic hardcore' Aces High II video (in HD)
Post by: Banshee7 on January 09, 2009, 07:08:30 PM
Quite possibly the worst movie/music i've ever seen/heard.

I respectfully agree.  AS Krusty said, I couldn't see much at all.  The music really took away from the film, I think.
Title: Re: My latest 'epic hardcore' Aces High II video (in HD)
Post by: WWhiskey on January 09, 2009, 07:24:29 PM
i like movies,,, :aok i like music,,, :aok
 i thought i could block out the noise, :huh
but the vid quality is not good enough to enjoy either! :O
try better quality vid first, :furious then maybe turn the volume down a bit,  :(


just an opinion, nice that you tried, i love watching good ah vids,, :cool: even if i have to put my own music over them in order to enjoy, :devil


 please try again  hopefully you will get better :cool:
Title: Re: My latest 'epic hardcore' Aces High II video (in HD)
Post by: drewgordon on January 09, 2009, 09:00:39 PM
"but the vid quality is not good enough to enjoy either!  :O
try better quality vid first,  :furious then maybe turn the volume down a bit,   :( "

The video is in '720i' - as are all 'HD' youtube videos - the image may seem slightly blurry and/or lurid because I increased the gamma in order to make the game look more 'Call of Duty' - like a cartoon.

The music is integral to the piece, as it is with my 'Wingwalker' and 'NSK' Aces High II videos - if you can't appreciate the aesthetic of the soundtrack, then your opinion is practically worthless to me, as the video is primarily aimed at enjoyers of music/art (in a certain style), not particularly Aces High players, although I would have expected those who are familiar with the game to at least be able to follow the narrative - I mean the ending part is a (vague) tribute to Charlton Heston in 'Midway'.

So then, hitechcreations message board posters would probably rather hear Hans Zimmer or Iron Maiden on the soundtrack.
I wonder if those who were so turned-off by my effort can post an aces high video that I may enjoy more than my own - apart from those JapanischSchwert and flash4art videos - I'll be surprised!
 :P
Title: Re: My latest 'epic hardcore' Aces High II video (in HD)
Post by: WWhiskey on January 09, 2009, 09:21:00 PM
just sayin i have seen better ah vid than yours on u tube , don't care what misic u listyen too
 but the vid quality was really bad to me!

 check ut my vid in the forums and see if you can tell a diff? not in content but quality
Title: Re: My latest 'epic hardcore' Aces High II video (in HD)
Post by: drewgordon on January 09, 2009, 09:40:27 PM
just sayin i have seen better ah vid than yours on u tube , don't care what misic u listyen too
 but the vid quality was really bad to me!

 check ut my vid in the forums and see if you can tell a diff? not in content but quality

Okay I just watched your short Me262 video - the Def Leppard music made me feel ill, but it was okay - the quality wasn't too much better than mine, the pixel ratio didn't seem to be - the picture was just clearer and brighter (like the music was). Thanks for your opinion/tips though, I won't be attempting any ten-minute videos for a while, and I should probably download a better 'sound pack' (where and how do I do that?!) and make future videos more short and to-the-point.
 :salute
Title: Re: My latest 'epic hardcore' Aces High II video (in HD)
Post by: WWhiskey on January 09, 2009, 10:33:39 PM
Okay I just watched your short Me262 video - the Def Leopard music made me feel ill, but it was okay - the quality wasn't too much better than mine, the pixel ratio didn't seem to be - the picture was just clearer and brighter (like the music was). Thanks for your opinion/tips though, I won't be attempting any ten-minute videos for a while, and I should probably download a better 'sound pack' (where and how do I do that?!) and make future videos more short and to-the-point.
 :salute

 thanks   ,,, and to the point
 my vids are most all just windows movie maker, not the best quality but the sound is krisp and clear as well,,
 to get better sounds go to the sounds and skins forum, i would imagine most of the people that play and or watch are older than 21 so music might be age appropriate but not what you played.. if you want it watched ,, make it something people like,, otherwise make what you want,,,try to keep all vids to less than 5 min tho so as to keep the quality and sound better, the bigger the file the less quality you get

 also watch my first film ,,, yak 9-t it may have been the best i ever made, sad to think that the first one may be the best
Title: Re: My latest 'epic hardcore' Aces High II video (in HD)
Post by: Banshee7 on January 09, 2009, 10:53:08 PM
if you can't appreciate the aesthetic of the soundtrack, then your opinion is practically worthless to me,

Feel free to comment!
 :t

 :huh
Title: Re: My latest 'epic hardcore' Aces High II video (in HD)
Post by: Motherland on January 09, 2009, 10:56:16 PM
I don't think he means the quality of the video as far as pixels and compression are concerned, but rather your camera angles and editing.

To be quite honest, when the... uh... music started, I thought you had switched out your engine sound with someone flipping out at a drum set, which I found pretty funny... and then I was just kind of pushed in to boredom and disgust.
Now that I think about it, it reminded me of Timmy from South Park.
Title: Re: My latest 'epic hardcore' Aces High II video (in HD)
Post by: 1pLUs44 on January 09, 2009, 11:04:31 PM
My opinion that it isn't very impressive, but if you liked it, that's all it should matter to you, the maker. 


:salute
Title: Re: My latest 'epic hardcore' Aces High II video (in HD)
Post by: Fulmar on January 09, 2009, 11:08:40 PM
So then, hitechcreations message board posters would probably rather hear Hans Zimmer or Iron Maiden on the soundtrack.
I wonder if those who were so turned-off by my effort can post an aces high video that I may enjoy more than my own - apart from those JapanischSchwert and flash4art videos - I'll be surprised!
 :P

Hardcore punk and World War 2 really don't go together like peas in a pod.  Perhaps if your video was Gears of War or some bloody first person shooter, it would be more fitting.  I like a whole range of music, but I know certain kinds don't go together with fighter planes.

You asked for our opinion, and we gave it to you.  You may not like it, but thats the chance you take.  If you think its the greatest thing in the world, thats great.  Why should you care what other people thing then?
Title: Re: My latest 'epic hardcore' Aces High II video (in HD)
Post by: VansCrew1 on January 10, 2009, 11:33:00 AM
Quite possibly the worst movie/music i've ever seen/heard.

 :aok
Title: Re: My latest 'epic hardcore' Aces High II video (in HD)
Post by: drewgordon on January 10, 2009, 12:28:55 PM
I don't think he means the quality of the video as far as pixels and compression are concerned, but rather your camera angles and editing.

To be quite honest, when the... uh... music started, I thought you had switched out your engine sound with someone flipping out at a drum set, which I found pretty funny... and then I was just kind of pushed in to boredom and disgust.
Now that I think about it, it reminded me of Timmy from South Park.
:lol I'm going to be going "TIMMIEGH!" at the screen next time I fly now! Cheers!  :aok

Thanks to everyone for commenting and opinion though really, and I apologise for my bad personal taste in films and music and stuff, and in future films I'll endevour to make a clearer narrative with a more listenable soundtrack...
...here are some other Aces High videos I've made recently (since I've gotten fraps).
Music is 'NSK' by Laibach...
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=VxlhsqNl5eI
Music is 'Wingwalker' by Shellac
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=qtOTPVjU-E8
...
 :salute
Title: Re: My latest 'epic hardcore' Aces High II video (in HD)
Post by: Krusty on January 10, 2009, 12:40:12 PM
I'm not necessarily saying you HAVE to have a narrative/plot, but there has to be something that ties it together.

Oh, and if it's going past 5 minutes with OUT something that ties it together, it's far too long. Usually only the narrative- or plot-driven videos even have a chance of running that long.
Title: Re: My latest 'epic hardcore' Aces High II video (in HD)
Post by: Morpheus on January 10, 2009, 04:24:25 PM
zomg that was crazy.

i have to go kill the neighbors cat after watching that.
Title: Re: My latest 'epic hardcore' Aces High II video (in HD)
Post by: reeb on January 12, 2009, 12:35:43 PM
what i dont understand is why your getting bentoutta shape when you asked for peoples opinions. The music was a bad  choice imho, and  i love punk, have since 1980 but that was not punk more like industral music. And 10mins long! omg way to long, in my years of making AH vids ive learned to try and keep them under 3mins. i got bored watchin it and had to stop because of the repetitive music was giving me a headache and thats hard to do.
and i accept your challage of post a vid!
http://vimeo.com/904186

And that is real punk music ;P
Title: Re: My latest 'epic hardcore' Aces High II video (in HD)
Post by: Fulmar on January 12, 2009, 12:42:27 PM
I prefer the Misfits over NOFX, but good song no the less.
Title: Re: My latest 'epic hardcore' Aces High II video (in HD)
Post by: reeb on January 12, 2009, 12:46:40 PM
yeah i prefer the misfits version better but i only have misfits on cassette and NOFX on CD lol as much as i have tryed i cant get my puter to accept the cassette format :lol
Title: Re: My latest 'epic hardcore' Aces High II video (in HD)
Post by: drewgordon on January 13, 2009, 03:59:40 AM
what i dont understand is why your getting bentoutta shape when you asked for peoples opinions. The music was a bad  choice imho, and  i love punk, have since 1980 but that was not punk more like industral music. And 10mins long! omg way to long, in my years of making AH vids ive learned to try and keep them under 3mins. i got bored watchin it and had to stop because of the repetitive music was giving me a headache and thats hard to do.
and i accept your challage of post a vid!
http://vimeo.com/904186

And that is real punk music ;P

Dude, I'm not bent out of shape (it's a message board - it's kind of expected to be 'b*tchy'!), and I still liked my video(s) a little more than your one (I actually like the music I used a lot!), but that Last Caress video rocked! Hmm not sure if I prefer that version to the original and Metallica versions, maybe perhaps, NOFX are good...
...I need to learn to put the camera in better postions, so far I've been doing all my fraps capturing in full screen to get the highest screen ratio, I will with my next vid experiment with the movie player to try and get some more cinematic angles - I like the shots with the camera stationary, as if filmed from a balloon - and I saw a shot in someone elses film of a bomb bay opening up from inside that was very cool and I must rip-off sometime.
Any comments on my 'Wingwalker' and 'NSK' videos? They seem to be less despised than the 'Deathface' job. Well anyway, next video will be more 'traditional' I hope - the thing is I really don't make these (new w/s fraps) videos for existing Aces High II players, rather for people who believe that Counter Strike or Warcraft or whatever are the be all and end all of spectacular online multifighting.
And really, a lot of videos of Aces High I see on youtube bore me as much as I'm sure mine bore others. The music for my next video will probably be Puccini or Verdi!  ;)
Cheers!
 :salute
Title: Re: My latest 'epic hardcore' Aces High II video (in HD)
Post by: reeb on January 13, 2009, 11:35:39 AM
your vid wasnt all bad there were alot of good things in it that the music distracted from. Remember one thing every vid you make you will learn more and they will only get better. Ok now for some tips of the trade: 1st when capturing with fraps, capture at a 1/4 speed then readjust the speed with your editor (even WMM has this feature) you will see a huge differance in your film quality. i have never captured film in full screen not sure if it makes a diff... I know its not always easy but try to keep your films under 3mins(i have found most people dont like to sit threw anything longer). Im like you i prefer to use music that i like cuz chances are im gonna be the one watchin the film the most lol(and yeah i was wrong i have films that have been watched over 1000 times by others) but sometimes you gotta ask yourself are you making the vid for yourself or for others to watch.....if its for others then yeah your gonna wanna use music that others will like. Remember to listen to what others say they dont like about a film, that way you can make your next film more enjoyable for others and you will have alot more people watching it and waiting for the next one. If you look at my 1st vids compaired to my last ones you can see how far i came(and i taught myself to make vids all by myself, vegas 7 was awesome i wish i still had it). Play with the AH film viewer shots set up, there was a really good write up on how to use the basics....take your time making your clips, ive spent hours playing with the AH film viewer to get 1, 10 second shot. Oh and youtube, ick gag choke puke!.......try using vimeo or anything better then youtube, their HD looks like poo.

I hope some of this is a lil helpful and if you have any questions please feel free to PM me, im not the best film maker but ill sure try to help anyone that wants help

just watched wingwalker and i liked that film
Title: Re: My latest 'epic hardcore' Aces High II video (in HD)
Post by: Nightshift82 on January 13, 2009, 11:19:00 PM
Had to stop it after 4 minutes to clean the blood dripping out of my ears.......  If you like more power to ya, practice makes perfect.
Title: Re: My latest 'epic hardcore' Aces High II video (in HD)
Post by: AirFlyer on January 14, 2009, 12:26:03 AM
Bleh, that's not punk it's scremo. I'm all for metal but that's just annoying.
Title: Re: My latest 'epic hardcore' Aces High II video (in HD)
Post by: JETBLST on January 21, 2009, 09:44:04 AM
Given the work that others have done here in this forum, your video looks like you just slammed it together in a few minutes.  No Offense.

Not to mention you just jump in.  The viewer gets slammed into this unorganized chaos.  If that is what you wanted you succeeded.  Punk can be a great music source for action.  But that music made me want to track them down and yank their amp cords.  Yikes!

Keep trying though.

IN MY OPINION WHICH AINT MUCH!!!  LOL Example of a good type of music would be say DOA and their remix of WAR or EVE OF DESTRUCTION.   For something like this.
Title: Re: My latest 'epic hardcore' Aces High II video (in HD)
Post by: JETBLST on January 21, 2009, 10:05:49 AM
Ya know?

I just took Rhapsody, turned down your music on YouTube and played other tracks to your shots.  That music you have has got to go bro.  Sorry.

Your camera work is not bad but needs to be polished.  For instance the 262 gunsight.  Either have the whole gunsight or none of it is what I would do.  It makes it look like a mistake.  That is the difference.  Get rid of the icons!  That makes it look WAY cheap.  The low res does not help either.  This is what some of the guys here are trying to tell ya I think.   :salute

What movie maker are you using?  Windows MM?  Just curious. 

You do have some great shots there with the 262  Very cool.  Keep working on quality control!  Look at all the posts here on how to slow down your recordings then play them faster later.  That will make your videos a whole lot more smooth.
Title: Re: My latest 'epic hardcore' Aces High II video (in HD)
Post by: Denholm on January 21, 2009, 10:15:42 AM
Are none of you seeing this?

(http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/6282/27837173fr5.jpg)

Quality is just fine....
Title: Re: My latest 'epic hardcore' Aces High II video (in HD)
Post by: JETBLST on January 21, 2009, 10:20:54 AM
Yup, watched it in High Quality.  Thanks for the lesson  :rofl

There is still much that could be done in so far as the little things people notice is all.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,256751.0.html

Get your movies to the quality of this screenshot and then we'll talk!
Title: Re: My latest 'epic hardcore' Aces High II video (in HD)
Post by: Denholm on January 21, 2009, 10:25:54 AM
I didn't bother watching the film the moment I heard the music. Just letting you know that there are no issues with his quality.
Title: Re: My latest 'epic hardcore' Aces High II video (in HD)
Post by: JETBLST on January 21, 2009, 10:27:29 AM
 :rofl :aok

That music really flames that video doesn't it!   :D
Title: Re: My latest 'epic hardcore' Aces High II video (in HD)
Post by: Getback on January 22, 2009, 05:31:02 AM
Quite possibly the worst movie/music i've ever seen/heard.

Why am I horse and blind after watching that film!
Title: Re: My latest 'epic hardcore' Aces High II video (in HD)
Post by: Krusty on January 23, 2009, 12:37:36 PM
You're a horse? Or you're hoarse?