Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Simaril on January 09, 2009, 04:00:08 PM
-
This seems to sum things up well.
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/windows_7.png)
Kudos to XKCD -- if you haven't heard of it you ought to check it out! xkcd.com (http://xkcd.com)
-
Looks as though he didn't STICK to his art class... :rofl
-
In all fairness, his art work is just as good as Vista/Windows 7 compatibility, and far less frustrating to understand. :)
-
In all fairness, his art work is just as good as Vista/Windows 7 compatibility, and far less frustrating to understand. :)
So what do you think of windows 7 compared to vista?
-
Windows 7 is Vista, with bug fixes. I see no reason to have a different opinion. If anything, I feel for people who bought Vista,as they will have to pay to upgrade to Windows 7, which is nothing more than an over-glorified service pack.
-
Looks as though he didn't STICK to his art class... :rofl
Be thankful he doesn't just post numbers -- the guy is a full time scientist who has a sense of humor!
The tag line is "A webcomic of romance, sarcasm, math and language" It's well earned...here are some other recent ones:
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/decline.png)
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/google_trends.png)
Note that only prime numbered panels were produced for this one...and how often are you going to see prime numbers mentioned in a comic, much less Yggdrasil?
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/2008_christmas_special.png)
-
Windows 7 is Vista, with bug fixes. I see no reason to have a different opinion. If anything, I feel for people who bought Vista,as they will have to pay to upgrade to Windows 7, which is nothing more than an over-glorified service pack.
I wonder if it runs the same as Vista. With my machine at home, AIM 5.9 even lags out. It's quite sad to be honest.
-
Well, Microsoft is marketing that it runs better, but then again, no one has been able to duplicate what Microsoft's marketing department has claimed.
I would guess there will be improvements. Surely they cannot make it worse.
-
Surely they cannot make it worse.
I'm sure they will try to. :D
-
For soem reason, Balmer really is convinced that getting away from the "Vista" name will solve all thier problems and people will just fall in love with Windows 7, because they changed the name.
Marketing at its finest. If your product is not what it should be, then put a new name on it, change the marketing of it, and see if that will make it move.
-
So, they are going for the placebo effect? Those sneaky little..... :D
"Oh no it's really a new OS, really....Please? Look we can name it whatever you want, it's different. We changed the color scheme that makes it a new OS!"
"It's faster, you just gotta think slower so it looks faster."
They broke a good thing, and it will take them till....when to find out?
-
just call vista, window mojave. looks like all the people in the commercials really like it.
lol
-
Marketing at its finest. If your product is not what it should be, then put a new name on it, change the marketing of it, and see if that will make it move.
(http://msnbc.com/modules/take3/may/img/rewind/petRock.jpg)
1975 is calling, Skuzzy.
-
So what do you think of windows 7 compared to vista?
I like windows mojave better. (http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t81/angelora77/Windows.jpg)
-
This is crap! Like Skuzzy said the should make it a service pack. Now I have to go out and buy this WTF bro :mad:
-
Woops, I posted about Windows 7 in Software :(
The buggers won't let you try the Beta from XP, only Vista. What about those of us who already tried Vista, know it bites and won't buy 7 until we try it?
Personally, the SP3 is working great on my test machine, so now all 4 of them get patched. That'll work for a few years.
-
I'm sorry but every time someone says Vista or Windows 7 I flash back to the Mac advertisement.
PC has a big pile of money, and he counts out 10 bills for advertising, 1 goes for actually fixing vista. But at the end he gives up, shoves it all to the advertising side.
That image is just too close to true to get it out of my head.
They won't fix vista, they will just change the name, and advertise like crazy.
Ohh they will fix a few of the biggest problems, but its still going to be a hog.
-
Just hope it's not THAT much of a hog. Recently had to upgrade some software (and endure the resulting hardware upgrades) at work, and the only thing the vendor will certify is XP (because of numerous conflicts and problems with Vista). Unfortunately, the window for buying XP is closing...so what are we going to do next time we need something?
-
I "thought" that if you buy a pc or laptop that has Vista on it and wanted to downgrade back to XP either microsoft or the maker would send you a cd.
I could be wrong, not sure where I heard it. The only reason I ask is because I bought my wife a new laptop for xmas and with a dual core 2.5ghz processor and 3gb of ram....it's slower than molasses in winter :furious
-
I "thought" that if you buy a pc or laptop that has Vista on it and wanted to downgrade back to XP either microsoft or the maker would send you a cd.
I could be wrong, not sure where I heard it. The only reason I ask is because I bought my wife a new laptop for xmas and with a dual core 2.5ghz processor and 3gb of ram....it's slower than molasses in winter :furious
That's bad intel there. If you want to XP you're going to have to buy it. Coincidentally XP costs about twice as much right now for a full version as Vista...
On the other side of that, once you do load XP on that machine it will run like the proverbial violated Hominidae.
-
Actually, most of the complaints are founded on crap computers.
My dad just bought a $700 Gateway Quad core, came with Vista. He was talking about finding a 64-bit copy of XP.... Until he actually RAN Vista. "Hmm.... Once you make it look like XP, it's not all that bad...." And another thing.... It found his DirecTV box on the network. No other computer he had would do that. And it's really not slow. He was downloading patches for his programs, installing some new things, converting a few DVDs..... Didn't even blink. It was just chuggin on along, minding it's own business. It's actually been very good so far. No real hiccups to speak of. And the thing is SMOKING fast. Windows 7 is supposed to be 30% faster in the official commercial release. Now that's gonna be neat.
For all the flak it's taken, Vista really isn't all that bad on a proper computer. If you think Vista sucks, you need a new computer. Runs fine on multi-cores.
-
Been testing the 64bit Win7 awhile and it seems to work pretty well for me. Unlike the Macs I manage I did not have to buy a new machine like when apple went from 10.4 to OS 10.5.
My x-fi, 280gtx and other hardware work great. CH sticks are happy as well as track IR.
As for a resource hog couple % cpu and 18% ram in normal browsing state.
Oh, IL2 4.08 to Mod versions, COD4, Silent Hunter and Black Shark play just fine on it. I do not know about AH though.
-
If you think Vista sucks, you need a new computer
^^Your opinion
AMD Dual Core 6000+
GeForce 9800GT
3 Gig CL4 memory
Yep, vista still sucked. <-- Mine :D
-
In all fairness, his art work is just as good as Vista/Windows 7 compatibility, and far less frustrating to understand. :)
lol point well taken. Vista has been terrible here on 10 machines.
-
I "thought" that if you buy a pc or laptop that has Vista on it and wanted to downgrade back to XP either microsoft or the maker would send you a cd.
I could be wrong, not sure where I heard it. The only reason I ask is because I bought my wife a new laptop for xmas and with a dual core 2.5ghz processor and 3gb of ram....it's slower than molasses in winter :furious
However, you CAN get XP as a "downgrade" when buying a computer directly from an Original Equipment Manufacturer....at least for now. Just bought several from Dell, where the XP "downgrade" ( :rofl) cost another $99; the XP is preloaded, but you have the option of going to the also installed Vista when you want to ( :rofl :rofl). Also purchased some tablet PCs from Toshiba, where the "downgrade" ( :rofl) comes standard, just for the asking. (Or maybe it was $20).
Thing is that from Dell at least XP is only available as an option for business computers. If you buy with the exact same specifications from their home use portal, XP is not available at all.
-
Actually, most of the complaints are founded on crap computers.
My dad just bought a $700 Gateway Quad core, came with Vista. He was talking about finding a 64-bit copy of XP.... Until he actually RAN Vista. "Hmm.... Once you make it look like XP, it's not all that bad...." And another thing.... It found his DirecTV box on the network. No other computer he had would do that. And it's really not slow. He was downloading patches for his programs, installing some new things, converting a few DVDs..... Didn't even blink. It was just chuggin on along, minding it's own business. It's actually been very good so far. No real hiccups to speak of. And the thing is SMOKING fast. Windows 7 is supposed to be 30% faster in the official commercial release. Now that's gonna be neat.
For all the flak it's taken, Vista really isn't all that bad on a proper computer. If you think Vista sucks, you need a new computer. Runs fine on multi-cores.
I am running Vista on a duo core AMD 2.6ghz cpu and it runs about as fast as XP did on my AMD single core 2.0 ghz. If Vista was actually an upgrade, I would have seen a significant performance increase going to the duo core cpu. In reality though, performance wise, Vista is a downgrade.
-
im running windows 7 64 bit , and it runs fine , faster than vista and so far no intrusions as yet
-
Is Microsoft going to charge us for a complete operating system for what basically amounts to a service pack? Or will this be an upgrade disk that costs much less than a full version?
-
a game rig here, running Vista 64, 6 Gig ram, no problems at all. I dont understand the hype here.
And i can run my GPU with DX10 power, why should i buy latest hardware and run an old OS? lol
If the next OS comes, i will upgrade anyway.
-
It was about time for me to reinstall my lappy after a year so i dl and installed windows7 beta.
So far no complaints, and its alot faster than the Vista computer my missus is running even if the specs are ALOT lower on this thing.
-
I remember when everyone was ripping on XP when it came out. Pretty much the same remarks I heard back then.
-
Windoz ME was a steaming pile of feces compared to 98 (resource hog too). XP fixed a lot of the issues. Yes, very familiar goings on...
-
Windoz ME was a steaming pile of feces compared to 98 (resource hog too). XP fixed a lot of the issues. Yes, very familiar goings on...
I had Windows ME on a computer for a week, non-stop system crashes. Went back to 98SE and didn't upgrade again until XP.
-
I remember when everyone was ripping on XP when it came out. Pretty much the same remarks I heard back then.
That's because when XP was released there were still over 60,000 documented bugs (according to Microsoft). Windows XP brought much needed improvements in memory management and file system support. Those alone were worth the upgrade.
Vista brings squat to the table. Unless you count all the DRM in it. Maybe the lack of DirectSound is a plus to you? Maybe the compatibility problems is a plus to you? Maybe you like being nannied to death? I could on and on. And maybe all those companies, who write applications for Windows, are moving from the "Program Files" folder for giggles and grins?
There is absolutely nothing added to Vista Microsoft could not have added to XP, except for all the DRM garbage. The memory manager in Vista is ripped right from XP. It even has the same bugs in it.
This is all about marketing so you will feel all warm and fuzzy when you hand over your cash to them. Windows 7 is nothing more than another service pack added to Vista. A fresh coat of paint to make you feel like you are getting something wonderful. If that is all it takes to make you happy, then good for you.
I am a little more demanding than that.
-
I have a computer I bought in 2000, still running on WinME, and has not yet been formatted!
However, XPpro is by far my favourite, and the only thing I hear of Vista is horror stories.
Now this all smells of moneygrabbing. New paint over something (if anything) inferior to old stuff. Am I right that WinXP is being phased out with all this, or will it carry on being available and updateable?
-
I would hate to be a OS software engineer for microsoft. There hasn't been anything really new that the average computer user will need that XP doesn't already provide. Can anyone really name one thing that would make it worth it shelling out $300.00 to $500.00 on a new OS?
-
I would hate to be a OS software engineer for microsoft. There hasn't been anything really new that the average computer user will need that XP doesn't already provide. Can anyone really name one thing that would make it worth it shelling out $300.00 to $500.00 on a new OS?
Make it less intrusive and less resource intense. Let it just be an OS and not a mandatory application and I'm in. It seems MS has forgotten what an OS is and with each subsequent release gets further and further away from what an ideal OS should be.
-
Unfortunately, that's more of an open source philosophy than a business model.
Microsoft sells software, and if they make a clean simple OS without bells and whistles then there'll be no reason for established customers to buy more product. It'd be the best thing for customers, but the bean counters and managers need to show continued sales growth to justify their existence. With the market for PCs saturating, new OEM sales aren't really a growth category anymore.
Add to that the reality of Microsoft's effectively having a monopoly on OS -- and its hard to see the evil empire doing anything else. They call it new features, but in reality its an excuse to force customers to buy their OS over and over.
-
Perhaps Vista/7 is an OK OS. What I do know is that Ubuntu linux can run on a system below microsofts minimum specs with all the graphic whistles and bells and ubuntu is not even the hard-core super-tweaked version of linux. It looks absolutely stunning and smooth on my laps tops that have no graphic cards in them (the standard intel onboard adapter). If this can be done with an free open source project, I can't see why microsoft can do it with a commercial product.
I find that ubuntu is excellent for everything except games. It may have some hardware compatibility issues with some hardware. If it held 90+% of the market I am sure somehow all hardware manufacturer would have the drivers for it and actually adjust their product to work with the software and not the other way around. Give windows the finger and work with linux.
I am so happy I didn't pay for my windos (xp... dual boot). My employer installed it for me. The only use for it is... games. Ubuntu handles all the work :)
-
Make it less intrusive and less resource intense. Let it just be an OS and not a mandatory application and I'm in. It seems MS has forgotten what an OS is and with each subsequent release gets further and further away from what an ideal OS should be.
Well from my few days of testing win7 that is what has happened. It runs faster on my old lappy than Vista did (even feels abit more snappy than XP) and its less bloated with all kinds of crapware than Vista is. Yes it still has a way to go before its really snappy on older machines but whatever anyone sais... its a step in the right direction versus Vista.