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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: ROC on January 09, 2009, 10:39:19 PM
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Microsoft Blocks XP-to-Windows 7 Beta Upgrades
The version of Windows 7 Beta 1 that Microsoft (NSDQ:MSFT) made available for download on its Technet site Thursday does not support upgrades from systems running its Windows XP operating system, according to a first look at the available code in the CRN Test Center.
It does, however, permit upgrades from Vista SP1 to Windows 7.
http://www.crn.com/software/212701488
So, basically, there are quite a few XP users that think Vista is a bloated pile of sewage, yet we are supposed to Buy Windows 7 if we use XP instead of making sure we like the program first?
Well, I guess that's one way to do it.
Updating all my systems to XP SP3, that'll hold me for a couple of years. I was really looking forward to trying this version, as my experience with Vista was less than putrid.
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Microsoft Blocks XP-to-Windows 7 Beta Upgrades
The version of Windows 7 Beta 1 that Microsoft (NSDQ:MSFT) made available for download on its Technet site Thursday does not support upgrades from systems running its Windows XP operating system, according to a first look at the available code in the CRN Test Center.
It does, however, permit upgrades from Vista SP1 to Windows 7.
http://www.crn.com/software/212701488
So, basically, there are quite a few XP users that think Vista is a bloated pile of sewage, yet we are supposed to Buy Windows 7 if we use XP instead of making sure we like the program first?
Well, I guess that's one way to do it.
Updating all my systems to XP SP3, that'll hold me for a couple of years. I was really looking forward to trying this version, as my experience with Vista was less than putrid.
Skuzzy said somewhere that windows 7 is vista with a paint job. (Hope I didn't misquote you Skuzzy)
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Skuzzy said somewhere that windows 7 is vista with a paint job. (Hope I didn't misquote you Skuzzy)
If Vista wasn't WinME then it probably was at least Win98 -> Win98SE is windows 7. It's basically Vista the way it should have been made in the first place but failed.
It still has same problems as Vista but also some improvements that are said to make it much more appealing than Vista. I downloaded the beta for testing yesterday.
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If Vista wasn't WinME then it probably was at least Win98 -> Win98SE is windows 7. It's basically Vista the way it should have been made in the first place but failed.
It still has same problems as Vista but also some improvements that are said to make it much more appealing than Vista. I downloaded the beta for testing yesterday.
It's Vista in shades, and like you said, things added to make an otherwise unappealing OS look appealing again. <g> Unless they *removed* certain things, then it's probably still not going to be a "great" gaming OS.
The thing about XP is it can be stripped down to basically win98 without the 90 crashes per day. That speed on the newer CPUs is where we probably want to be as gamers. If you can afford a monstrous machine to pull Vista and games, then more power to ya.
2 cents
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Though I have not yet seen this printed anywhere, it seems to me that:
Vista is to Windows 7...
as...
Windows 98 is to Windows 98SE
It seems like basically the same os as the previous edition with significant tweaks and additions to make it more mainstream and appealing.
I still forsee my primary OS being XP for many years...
-Llama
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I checked the web page around 11:00 am MST, I was able to down Windows 7 beta and I even got a license key!. Took 20 minutes to install! and it seems really fast. Yes it looks like Vista, in a few places. If your still on XP, you might not like it. As for my self I have XP, Vista and Windows 7 on my drive and so far I'm impressed.
Down loading Aces right now can't wait to try it!
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So far Microsoft has a good thing going here! :aok if it wasn't for my sidewider steering wheel not being support Xp would be gone and so would Vista! Good enough to drag me away from Linux? No. The task bar does remind me of KDE4. Aces plays great :rock
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Running 7 beta now. So far i like it very much.
Havent installed AH yet, but everything else including drivers for all the components of this laptop works and was found right away. With XP i had to hunt down the drivers for many components but in 7 everything just works right out of the gate. Installation time was 20-30 mins.
Gonna wait a few weeks before i give it the :aok , but so far im very impressed vs vista and xp
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If I can settle down the schedule at my new job, I plan to learn about running Aces High under Linux and Wine (http://www.winehq.org). AH is about the only thing I need Windows for, any more. If I can get that figured out, then it's buh-bye Billgatezebub.
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When Skuzzy posted in another thread that windows7 is in reality and update on vista he wasn't telling a Fib.
this is imho a service pack for bugs in vista. Microsoft couldn't sell vista...so they've just given vista a new name.
It's smart marketing....can't sell something? Sell it under another name. If you are using vista now to use windows7
you of course will have to pay microsoft for that right.
I HAD a brand new laptop that had vista64 on it. It had problems with my ch controlers, control manager etc.
I am now using to play AH a machine that is using WindowsXP Pro with SP3.
Microsoft can't sell Vista to the majority of business and corporations. They're now trying to sell Vista as Windows7.
Vista is chielly application software. We want an operating system not added applications that bog down a system.
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When Skuzzy posted in another thread that windows7 is in reality and update on vista he wasn't telling a Fib.
this is imho a service pack for bugs in vista. Microsoft couldn't sell vista...so they've just given vista a new name.
It's smart marketing....can't sell something? Sell it under another name. If you are using vista now to use windows7
you of course will have to pay microsoft for that right.
I HAD a brand new laptop that had vista64 on it. It had problems with my ch controlers, control manager etc.
I am now using to play AH a machine that is using WindowsXP Pro with SP3.
Microsoft can't sell Vista to the majority of business and corporations. They're now trying to sell Vista as Windows7.
Vista is chielly application software. We want an operating system not added applications that bog down a system.
What?!!
Nwxt y9u'll be telling us that the current Ford Taurus used to be the 500!
:uhoh
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What?!!
Nwxt y9u'll be telling us that the current Ford Taurus used to be the 500!
:uhoh
What is y9u'll????? :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Linux note: You need Cedege (transgaming) to get Aces high to work in Linux. Only problem I have is my hat views wont work with my Saitek joystick st280 pro. Other then that i usually get high frame rates in Linux. Works best with PClinuxOS. You need to use engine 6.1.0 in order of it to work but there is a Linux forum.
I think Windows user should embrace windows 7. Unless you have XP CD you'll have no choice on in building a or downgrading a New PC to XP. Know one knows what will happen if you have to reload XP and if the Windows XP activation will work after 2014.
With all due respect :salute Skuzzy is stuck in the past with Windows 98 (he's tweeking of XP give you the 98 look and feel). 9X, ME, 2000 all all dead and waiting for the wake and grieving to get over with the demise of XP. :( Evolve or die, with Windows.
Ultimately embrace freedom choose Linux.
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With all due respect :salute Skuzzy is stuck in the past with Windows 98 (he's tweeking of XP give you the 98 look and feel). 9X, ME, 2000 all all dead and waiting for the wake and grieving to get over with the demise of XP. :( Evolve or die, with Windows.
Ultimately embrace freedom choose Linux.
ROFL!
Yes, I trim the fat where I can, so shoot me. I detest operating systems that pretend to be more than just operating systems. I detest my computer being bogged down for no reason at all. You like bloatware, then Vista is for you. Ever heard the phrase that sometimes going forward is a step backward? Remind me why someone should pay for an operating system that has more documented compatibility problems than any OS Microsoft has released since Windows 95?
Then remind me again, why a Vista owner has to pay to upgrade to Windows 7, which is nothing more than some bug fixes you used to get in a service pack for free?
Now, tell me why this operating system is oh, so much better than its predecessors? Did you also think Windows ME was moving forward?
The only place I found myself stuck in, is wondering why anyone would actually pay for Vista or Windows 7. They do not bring anything to the table that you cannot do in XP, and they have the added benefit of not being able to run a bunch of software XP will.
Then again, I am an engineer, and like most engineers, I am content to stay with what works better than what is available to replace it. Now, other that what the Microsoft marketing machine has spewed forth, what did you offer as fact that Vista/Windows 7 is really a better alternative to XP? Please, tell me what Earth shattering thing I am missing. I have Vista on a test machine at the office and it is an abomination. It does not do anything better than XP, but it does do many things worse.
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Using Windows XP 64-bit and I've seen nothing from Vista 32-bit or 64-bit that makes me want to switch over except DirectX 10, but the pros don't come close to outweighing the cons so I'm sticking to XP till MS releases something decent.
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Please, tell me what Earth shattering thing I am missing. I have Vista on a test machine at the office and it is an abomination. It does not do anything better than XP, but it does do many things worse.
Unfortunately hardware and software developers are already dropping XP support in many places which means you either upgrade to Vista/7 or stop using windows with new hardware due to lack of drivers.
Latest nvidia 3d glasses for example have only Vista support and this will only be a growing trend. This sucks because degrading support will be the only reason why XP should cease to be an option in the future.
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What is y9u'll????? :rofl :rofl :rofl
It's more intelligent than any single post that you've ever generated. <no gay smilie needed>
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Please, tell me what Earth shattering thing I am missing.
Don't you watch the commercials? I can log on and set out how much time my offspring is on Myspace. And it's pretty. And, other stuff.
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Unfortunately hardware and software developers are already dropping XP support in many places which means you either upgrade to Vista/7 or stop using windows with new hardware due to lack of drivers.
Latest nvidia 3d glasses for example have only Vista support and this will only be a growing trend. This sucks because degrading support will be the only reason why XP should cease to be an option in the future.
That is a vaild concern. Fortunately, I have not run into any hardware that is not also supported under XP and I just built a brand new computer.
It is just a shame Microsoft has not come up with a valid replacement OS to warrant it. Personally, I have no issue with dropping Microsoft for my home computer systems(s). I do mostly videographer things at home, and Linux is very well supported in that area. Then again, come the day I have to wrorry about it, I hope to be retired.
I feel for those who are going to be stuck with such a sham of an operating system. It is a Microsoft world and no matter how much they screw up, they will eventually get away with it. Nice position to be in, for them.
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I believe this will all backfire on MS at some point. I would love a system that can read all my memory and more. I don't understand why an OS should dominate the computer when in fact it is there to only perform basic functions. XP will be on my machine for the foreseeable future.
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Simple really. There are people using computers today who have no idea what an operating system is. They look at it like it is an application and expect, if not demand, everything be bundled up with it so they never have to buy another piece of software.
Those of us who have been fortunate to know the difference between system programming and application programming get frustrated at the whole attitude. But hey, there are the same people who would spend hours using their phone to surf the Internet, rather than a computer. Streaming Netflix to their phone thinking it is the best thing since sliced bread. They actually brag about it like it is a good thing.
It is the next generation of computer users who really do not want to use a computer. They want the computer to be their nanny. They want it all preconfigured and all within a mouse click away. They need it to be configured to protect itself from them so they cannot make an error. They do not understand what bloatware is and they do not care about it. They fully believe the more CPU's they have the more the machine can do at once, without any performance penalty. They think 100 processes running in the background is not bad as long as they are all running where they cannot see them. After all, if you cannot see it, it must not be bad.
Microsoft has delivered them an operating system that fits right up thier alley while completely ignoring the user who is actually competent to use a computer.
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Unfortunately hardware and software developers are already dropping XP support in many places which means you either upgrade to Vista/7 or stop using windows with new hardware due to lack of drivers.
Latest nvidia 3d glasses for example have only Vista support and this will only be a growing trend. This sucks because degrading support will be the only reason why XP should cease to be an option in the future.
Tell me about it. I still have Win98SE on my old machine and my laptop. I've gotta thank download.com for still having freebie Win98 apps that I occasionally need.
Simple really. There are people using computers today who have no idea what an operating system is. They look at it like it is an application and expect, if not demand, everything be bundled up with it so they never have to buy another piece of software.
Those of us who have been fortunate to know the difference between system programming and application programming get frustrated at the whole attitude. But hey, there are the same people who would spend hours using their phone to surf the Internet, rather than a computer. Streaming Netflix to their phone thinking it is the best thing since sliced bread. They actually brag about it like it is a good thing.
It is the next generation of computer users who really do not want to use a computer. They want the computer to be their nanny. They want it all preconfigured and all within a mouse click away. They need it to be configured to protect itself from them so they cannot make an error. They do not understand what bloatware is and they do not care about it. They fully believe the more CPU's they have the more the machine can do at once, without any performance penalty. They think 100 processes running in the background is not bad as long as they are all running where they cannot see them. After all, if you cannot see it, it must not be bad.
Microsoft has delivered them an operating system that fits right up thier alley while completely ignoring the user who is actually competent to use a computer.
Well, you can bash MS (not saying you are specifically) all you want but they have made it easy for even a total computer n00b to get on and do a few things. Many are scared to death they are going to blow the thing up the first few times. My older brother just got his first computer about a year ago and my phone was off the hook for months.
I don't think people nessesarily think having 100 processes running in the background is a good thing. I think they probably just don't know they are and MS has made it possible to trim a lot of that back for the real computer users... maybe they just haven't gone far enough.
I really do thing that MS lost their way with Vista and if tweaking and refining it to trim some of the bloat is what Windows 7 is then it sounds like they are at least moving in the right direction again. Let's see, I skipped Win2000 and WinME so I guess I'll be due again with whatever is released after 7. Hopefully they move further in the right direction by then.
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That is a vaild concern. Fortunately, I have not run into any hardware that is not also supported under XP and I just built a brand new computer.
It is just a shame Microsoft has not come up with a valid replacement OS to warrant it. Personally, I have no issue with dropping Microsoft for my home computer systems(s). I do mostly videographer things at home, and Linux is very well supported in that area. Then again, come the day I have to wrorry about it, I hope to be retired.
I feel for those who are going to be stuck with such a sham of an operating system. It is a Microsoft world and no matter how much they screw up, they will eventually get away with it. Nice position to be in, for them.
Personally I used to think Apple was useless but the more I get to know it's audiovisual applications the more I like it. Even the built in garageband / iMovie are compatible to several expensive Windows applications.
Just updated my Kubuntu dual-boot yesterday also. The 8.10 and kde4 desktop is a serious Windows contender if you don't need to play games.
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Is it still possible to buy a new machine with XP? Or do they all come witgh vista now?
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Dell has license from Microsoft to have XP on some models of their computers.
So yes....you can get a Dell with XP Pro. If you do order one make sure to stipulate you want XP as your OS not vista.
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I am sorry Skuzzy if my Post came off wrong, but lets wait till the dust settles and see what Microsoft comes up with.
I was an early adaptor to Vista from XP. I am Field Service Engineer and was getting service calls from Companies and Home users that had bought Vista or Vista preinstalled on their new PC. Do I like Vista? It’s Ok, it works my only grip is that the steering wheel and gas pedals don’t work with Vista other than that not one issue but that’s my experience. Hell, I still have Windows 3.11 for workgroups installed on my PC. I boot to it just for kicks and chuckles. I still have XP not a problem with it either, except as far as I’m concerned it’s dead. Microsoft has called it dead.
Would you say that about 80% of the Aces II players have store bought PC’s with additional Bloat ware from the manufactures of their PC? If they buy a new one from one of the retailers it’s going to have Vista. I have also read where companies are charging $150 extra to downgrade a PC to XP. So upon reading an echo chamber in the second post... Skuzzy said… I had to respond, because I am using Windows 7 beta, and it’s nice, so far I can’t complain aboutit. It looks like Vista but does not act like Vista. It took me only 20 minutes to install it. Sure it’s bloated with typical Microsoft stuff, and new eye candy but HighTech doesn’t make a DOS base version of Aces II, so what choice do I have, again XP is dead.
As far as Aces II, I used the regular windows installer and not the one label d for Vista. I was not greeted with the endless User access control windows that kept popping up in Vista. No spinning clipboard, I hold a constant 60 Frame rate, XP and Vista it was all over the place for 12 to 75(rare) on a slow night. My processor is taxed at times, my system an AMD 2.2 GHZ Athlon 64, not a dual core or triple core, 2GB of system memory (pc3200), an AGP Geforce 7600 video card.
In 2014 what are you going to do? Retire! Well Good for you Skuzzy! I still have 20 years left before I can do that. I now work for a State Government and I also have Vista box running at work and About half of our programs don’t work Vista or in internet explorer 7! I refuse to be like the rest of my coworkers and claim “they can pry XP out of my cold dead hard drive” and hide my head in the sand thinking things are going to get better. I prefer my Ubuntu Linux box, but for the next 7 months I’m using Windows 7, and providing feed back when I can, wither or not Microsoft listens is a different story.
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By 2014, perhaps the linux marketshare on home PC's will be noticeably larger. That is if Microsoft is still producing crap and the rest of society didn't sell their iSoul to the corpse of Steve Jobs.
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:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Heres one for the XP lovers..... has any one tried to run AcesII on a Asus/Acer Netbook? :devil
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:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Heres one for the XP lovers..... has any one tried to run AcesII on a Asus/Acer Netbook? :devil
Yeah, what about Poland??
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Running 7 beta now. So far i like it very much.
Havent installed AH yet, but everything else including drivers for all the components of this laptop works and was found right away. With XP i had to hunt down the drivers for many components but in 7 everything just works right out of the gate. Installation time was 20-30 mins.
Gonna wait a few weeks before i give it the :aok , but so far im very impressed vs vista and xp
Now i have tried AH on 7 beta and it works great. Noone has complained that i lag either. My fps are down just a tad on this radeon x600 chip but still smooth :)
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You are acting like in 2014 XP will suddenly stop working. I still run Windows 2000 on a file server at home and it works fine. Better than XP in some ways, and far better than Vista/Windows 7 could.
If all goes to plan, I retire in 2019.
By then, I hope Microsoft has something I would consider suitable to replace XP. I have no problem replacing an operating system when something better comes along. Vista, nor Windows 7 does not fit that criteria. Vista/Windows 7 still offers nothing I cannot get with XP for what I use it for. They both still have the same thread management bugs that XP has.
Then again, when I retire, I really will not have a need for a Microsoft OS. That will be a happy day.
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You will never retire Skuzzy, so just let that thought go right now. All your internet children in the AH daycare center would be too lost and confused for anyone to let that happen. Societies would collapse and widespread looting and chaos would break out around the globe.
Sorry sir, you are STUCK :lol
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Is it still possible to buy a new machine with XP? Or do they all come witgh vista now?
HP are still doing XP "downgrades", IIRC it was about £15 install charge.
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Then again, when I retire, HTC will be owned by Microsoft. That will be a happy day.
Fixed :devil
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All this back-and-forth on operating systems has me wondering...
From the point of view of Aces High, is there much (any?) difference between Windows XP 64-bit and 32-bit?
Since the 64-bit version can address more memory, would that allow more textures and/or skins to be cached? (Right now I have 2 GB running under Win XP Pro 32-bit, and AH *seems* to fit it all...?)
Does the slight speed increase (throughput, really) of 64-bit memory access make any difference to AH?
Thanks! :)
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I'm curious.
Can you throw Windows 7 beta onto a Windows XP machine and have a dual boot function? That way I can try it without unleashing armageddon on my poor PC.
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64 bit operating systems do not buy much of anything for a 32 bit application, such as Aces High II. All versions of Windows restrict 32 bit applications to only being able to use a maximum of 2GB of RAM.
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As Skuzzy said all 32-bit bit applications run even on a 64-bit OS act like 32-bit. That's because a 64-bit OS will just emulate it in 32-bit. You'll notice this in your Processes tab on task manager. Anything being emulated in 32-bit will have *32 to the right of it. Perhaps Hitech will make a 64-bit version of AH some day. :pray
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I'm curious.
Can you throw Windows 7 beta onto a Windows XP machine and have a dual boot function? That way I can try it without unleashing armageddon on my poor PC.
Yes if have enough free space. pop in the DVD, choose custom install not an upgrade. The basic install of Windows 7 is 9GB which is a tad larger then Windows XP with SP3
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My understanding is, there is no upgrade from XP to Windows 7 available and Microsoft has no intention of offering an upgrade for XP users.
I have not substantiated that, so please do not go about the net claiming it is fact. Has anyone tried?
Personally, I would be happy to see them not offer an upgrade. Those things cause more trouble than they are worth.
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I've always been told to not upgrade but instead start with a fresh install by IT guys.
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I am beginning to like Windows 7. It reminds me of XP in many ways and I am doing a clean install just like I did with Windows XP Pro. I have only heard of two versions of 7 coming out but can't find any more information than that. It recognized everything right off the bat and runs nicely for the average home user and all of my current games will run on it without issues for now.
Also it seems to like PC Anywhere which is good since that is how I connect with my office desktop when I have a need for a file that is there and not at home.
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My understanding is, there is no upgrade from XP to Windows 7 available and Microsoft has no intention of offering an upgrade for XP users.
I have not substantiated that, so please do not go about the net claiming it is fact. Has anyone tried?
Personally, I would be happy to see them not offer an upgrade. Those things cause more trouble than they are worth.
It's true the upgrade path is available only from Vista, not XP.
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64 bit operating systems do not buy much of anything for a 32 bit application, such as Aces High II. All versions of Windows restrict 32 bit applications to only being able to use a maximum of 2GB of RAM.
Thanks for the info, Skuzzy. :salute
If, hypothetically, there were a 64-bit version of Aces High, would there be a perceptible difference in the user experience? I'm just curious. Other than the specific issue of large memory use for certain kinds of applications, there just does not yet seem to be a compelling reason to go 64-bit. Not yet, anyway.
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Thanks for the info, Skuzzy. :salute
Other than the specific issue of large memory use for certain kinds of applications, there just does not yet seem to be a compelling reason to go 64-bit. Not yet, anyway.
Well there could be if you wanted to run a lot of memory intensive applications at one time. Even if they were all 32 bit apps and limited to 2 Gb of RAM 32 bit Windows is limited to 4 Gb max overall. 64 bit Windows can see something like 128 Gb of RAM which would allow all those apps to run their full 2 Gb if needed.
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Yes, but the trade-off being, the addresses in a 64bit OS, when running a 32 bit application are all virtual, which slows down the application a bit. It has to be done that way to allow the 32 bit application to be able to run in memory above 4GB.
Compiling a 32bit applcation to be a 64bit application almost doubles the resident memory size of the executable as 32 bit pointers become 64 bit pointers, so you need more RAM to run the same number of 32bit applications that are now 64bit applications.
Nothing is ever free.
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Yes, but the trade-off being, the addresses in a 64bit OS, when running a 32 bit application are all virtual, which slows down the application a bit. It has to be done that way to allow the 32 bit application to be able to run in memory above 4GB.
Compiling a 32bit applcation to be a 64bit application almost doubles the resident memory size of the executable as 32 bit pointers become 64 bit pointers, so you need more RAM to run the same number of 32bit applications that are now 64bit applications.
Nothing is ever free.
Yikes, I'm dwarfed by this insight.
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Thanks for the info, Skuzzy. :salute
If, hypothetically, there were a 64-bit version of Aces High, would there be a perceptible difference in the user experience? I'm just curious. Other than the specific issue of large memory use for certain kinds of applications, there just does not yet seem to be a compelling reason to go 64-bit. Not yet, anyway.
64-bits gives you higher octane gas and double size cannon balls! At least if you believe the hype. :D
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so just to be clear here,,, if i am running vista now should i get 7???
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That's up to you. This is simply discussing the Windows 7 BETA download which allows you to test Windows 7. Unfortunately only Vista users can test Windows 7.
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Unfortunately only Vista users can test Windows 7.
:huh :huh
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That's up to you. This is simply discussing the Windows 7 BETA download which allows you to test Windows 7. Unfortunately only Vista users can test Windows 7.
That's not true. Only Vista users can upgrade their Vista to Windows 7 but nothing stops XP users from making a clean install.
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64-bits gives you higher octane gas and double size cannon balls! At least if you believe the hype. :D
ROFLMAO!!
That's not true. Only Vista users can upgrade their Vista to Windows 7 but nothing stops XP users from making a clean install.
Bingo! Give that man a cookie!
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Sorry, I didn't know MS was allowing people to download the actual OS installer. It sounded as if they were only giving out upgrade downloads which only work with Vista.
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It is the full version. It is set to detonate in the near future, so they are not worried about it being used passed the BETA period.
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Ah, thanks for the information.
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:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Heres one for the XP lovers..... has any one tried to run AcesII on a Asus/Acer Netbook? :devil
Not on a Asus/Acer Netbook just on a Sammy nc-10. :t
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It is the full version. It is set to detonate in the near future, so they are not worried about it being used passed the BETA period.
So if I were to install it,they would eventually make it so I had to buy it??
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Yes, if you decide to keep it.
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Hi Guys nice Windows 7 thread.... Mine told me it was good until August I thought?... It looks good to me but I just loaded it today on my office box... Sat.... I will do A clean install on this gamer and run the nuts off it... lol
You guys rock
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Gatr
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Tried it and wasn't impressed. I'm not sure if it was just driver incompatibilities(used Vista64-bit ones) or maybe DX11 still not being finished but it still didn't run my games nearly as well as XP does. Looks like I'm holding out a few more years yet on my "Out of date" OS.
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Hi, Im one of the 5 people who use Vista and really like it :aok
anyway, Im running vista 64, like anyone im curious about 7, a few questions:
1: do vista64 drivers = 7 drivers I.E. will my track IR, cougar HOTAS, etc etc all still work?
2: can it be uninstalled without fubaring anything?
3: am i requried to do a clean install I.E. format then reinstall or can I "upgrade" from vista.
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1: do vista64 drivers = 7 drivers I.E. will my track IR, cougar HOTAS, etc etc all still work?
2: can it be uninstalled without fubaring anything?
3: am i requried to do a clean install I.E. format then reinstall or can I "upgrade" from vista.
1. Apparently there is some trouble with the drivers for the Cougar but I have only seen that posted over in Cougarworld forums and I haven't read too much on it yet.
2 &3 . I would imagine that if you want to uninstall it you can do so easily. I myself have it setup three different ways...one is on a virtual machine and the other a dual boot on my oldest sons computer and I took my old work laptop and formated and installed clean. That way works just as well as XP Pro SP3 for me and as mentioned is only a little larger than the full install of said OS with service pack.
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Wing you can do an upgreade and it will por over all your stuff pretty well...
I do deal w/ the spinny clip board unless I have a clean boot in front of runnin AH
The drivers are pretty much all good...
I do notice on OLD stuff it's a pain in the arse...
No Track IR here so I can't say...
But overall I like what I am seeing from a BETA... I mean when XP came out BETA..
TRAIN WRECK...
I am runnin a 64 bit version and must say.... I kinda like it....
But then again I run AMD stuff so I guess I am a nutcase.....
Gatr...
salute