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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Chalenge on January 15, 2009, 03:12:34 PM
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Shortly after takeoff from LaGuardia to Charlotte:
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D95NQBFO0&show_article=1
Early reports say a bird strike damaged the engine(s).
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Wow :O
I need to call a couple buddies in NYC methinks :uhoh
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Just read and saw the live feed on ABC. Hope everyone made it out.
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I just saw that. Sure must have been a ride them people.
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think all made it out safely. brrrrr. Double bird strike Seaguls ?
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Wow, good for those Pilots. There have been very few successful water landings by large commercial birds as I understand it, and to get everyone off ok to boot is nothing less than incredible.
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http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/01/plane_crash_lands_in_hudson_ri.html
It reports the plane hit a flock of geese that took out both of the engines. At around 3 thousand feet, the plane had prepared ditch into the water.
:pray
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http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,256400.0.html
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Yea im watching it right now.
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According to the guy (passenger) just interviewed on CNN he said it seemed as smooth as possible for that type of landing. How he knows I can not guess but he said it was fairly smooth but they were bumped around quite a bit.
I can see the used aircraft for sale newsletter in the future:
For Sale: One former US Airways A320...Low air time and recently refurbished interior and exterior...some minor water damage....$5 million USD
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According to the guy (passenger) just interviewed on CNN he said it seemed as smooth as possible for that type of landing. How he knows I can not guess but he said it was fairly smooth but they were bumped around quite a bit.
I can see the used aircraft for sale newsletter in the future:
For Sale: One former US Airways A320...Low air time and recently refurbished interior and exterior...some minor water damage....$5 million USD
That buyout or starting bid? :aok
Early reports say a bird strike damaged the engine(s).
ace pilots.
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That buyout or starting bid? :aok
ace pilots.
hording ace pilots!
:salute to the early responders!
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I heard everyone got out and they might salvage the plane but last i saw it was under water, if anyone watchs CNN I blame it on them because earlier this week they had a news report saying we havnt had a commercial plane crash in 2 years..... they didnt knock on wood :noid
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I heard everyone got out and they might salvage the plane but last i saw it was under water, if anyone watchs CNN I blame it on them because earlier this week they had a news report saying we havnt had a commercial plane crash in 2 years..... they didnt knock on wood :noid
They may be able to pull the plane out of the water relatively quickly, but it will take HOURS to remove that foot from their mouth. :lol
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I heard everyone got out and they might salvage the plane but last i saw it was under water, if anyone watchs CNN I blame it on them because earlier this week they had a news report saying we havnt had a commercial plane crash in 2 years..... they didnt knock on wood :noid
Plane is only partially submerged. The Coast Guard and Harbor Patrol boats that responded managed to tie up with the plane to keep it from sinking completely. They are now working on a plan to tow the plane out of the main shipping channel in the river and then figure out a way to recover it.
On a side note, those life rafts in the plane apparently didn't hold up so well, from what one of the witnesses that was interviewed, he mentioned that quite a few (including the one he was one) were taking on water and sinking or had sunk.
ack-ack
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Everyone got out safley, thank god. He gets my vote for great save of the year.
:salute to the pilot.
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According to the guy (passenger) just interviewed on CNN he said it seemed as smooth as possible for that type of landing. How he knows I can not guess but he said it was fairly smooth but they were bumped around quite a bit.
I can see the used aircraft for sale newsletter in the future:
For Sale: One former US Airways A320...Low air time and recently refurbished interior and exterior...some minor water damage....$5 million USD
If the news reports are true (bird strike) and the pilot managed to do a perfect emergency water landing and there are no fatalities, the airline manufacturer could end up ahead out of this for being the manufacturer of the aircraft that nobody died in during a catastrophic engine failure. The airline on the other hand... well they might make a little from the pilot being the hero, but if they did incur a financial loss then I'm sure in one way or another Uncle Sam will help them out in the end.
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truely amazing, been out on my buddys boat on the hudson, that is a very deep and a very cold river, also extremlyyyyyyyyy strong currents, esp in the manhatten area where the river comes to an end.
that takes one hell of a pilot to do that, there are very few areas to land a plane in the tristate area aside from the airports, extremly populated area, river clearly was the only option, almost made it to newark airport, a couple miles south on the new jersey side of the river.
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The CNN report said no Commercial Fatalities in that early week report. So all is still good.
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That pilot is a hero. He found the only space in the Lower Manhattan area that didn't have people or buildings covering it. All survived. THAT is a hero!
:salute
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how could a stupid little wussy bird crash an airplane? the engines are supposed to be "bird strike proof"! :huh
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Geese aren't "stupid little wussy birds". They have some size and weight to them, and a flock can do some serious damage. I've seen them crash right through the windshield of a car or truck when they cross the road flying low.
They're stupid, but not little.
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but think. a 100- foot spanned aircraft vs. a 5ft span bird. now that would be stupid, and who said it was geese?
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your right, they are stupid to fly in the path of a meatgrinder! :rofl
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Your new here, arent you
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how could a stupid little wussy bird crash an airplane? the engines are supposed to be "bird strike proof"! :huh
No, the engines are designed to be "bird strike resistant", which means the engine has to be designed so that it shuts down safely and not survive the impact. A bird as small as 4 pounds is enough to cause catastrophic engine damage, which is way the engines have to be rated for birds as that small. Multiple bird strikes like the one the US Airways plane experienced is enough to cause multiple failures which require immediate emergency procedures to get the plane on the ground. Unfortunately, the jet didn't have sufficient power to return to the airport and thankfully the flight crew was experienced and skilled enough to make a picture perfect water landing.
ack-ack
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They said a flock of Geese.....Suck in a couple of those in each engine, then you have no more engine.
I work at the Atlanta airport, through the years they have continued to add birds of prey nest sights around each runway....they say that helps the best in keeping larger birds from flying in that area.
75% of engine damage comes from bird strikes.
Also like to add, very big salute to the pilot.. :salute.....but need to give the F.N.A.A. a salut too.
We hatem we cussem up a storm when we see one eyeballin our planes...but they are there to do there jobs to make sure your doing yours. To make that plane as safe as it possible could be. I think they can pat themselves on the back for this one!! :salute
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but think. a 100- foot spanned aircraft vs. a 5ft span bird. now that would be stupid, and who said it was geese?
The pilot radioed the tower that he hit a flock of geese at 3200 ft. and that he had an emergency situation.
And the problem with jet aircraft and birds is not a mass vs mass thing, it's a "take a lightweight and finely tuned aluminum jet-turbine engine/blender designed to process air and throw a 10-pound sack of meat, feathers and bone into it at 250 mph" thing. Anywhere else on the plane would likely only cause a large dent (and a dead bird), but the numerous small and fragile parts in a jet turbine engine operating at high speed and tuned to handle air... just don't act like a heavily-built supersized steel-bladed blender.
The actual term is "bird strike resistant" (ack-ack beat me to it :furious ). And in truth there is almost always major damage to the engine that took in the bird since most of the time that a plane is at co-fowl altitude the engines are going full throttle, and the faster the engines are spinning + the size of the bird + the speed difference between the two makes for enough damage to render the engine useless. And dont forget that birds come in all sorts of shapes and sizes, there is a signifigant difference between a swallow, a pigeon, a goose and a turkey.
What is unique about this incident is that it sounds like the pilot hit a flock of geese and that both engines took a strike. While the plane is likely designed to fly with one engine still fully operational, it sounds like both were damaged or dead from the strike.
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Check out Aero-news.net. They are reporting it was: Reports Confirm The Captain Is SRM Founder Chesley B. "Sully" Sullenberger, III
Reports Confirm The Captain Is SRM Founder Chesley B. "Sully" Sullenberger, III
Here's a guy who may never have to pick up a bar tab ever again. His nickname is "Sully" and he is reportedly the Captain of the US Airways A320 that went down Thursday in near-freezing waters just off LaGuardia International Airport, shortly after departure.
Fate may not have been able to pick a better flyer for this emergency as Captain Sullenberger is a highly regarded aviator with extensive experience, and is also the President & CEO of Safety Reliability Methods, Inc. SRM is "a consulting firm that provides expert solutions to complex problems involving safety, high performance and high reliability."
Sullenberger's web site lists him only as a "captain for a major US airline with over 40 years of flying experience." It also mentions that he is a former US Air Force (USAF) fighter pilot, who has served as an instructor and Air Line Pilots Association (ALPA) safety chairman, accident investigator and national technical committee member.
He has participated in several USAF and National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) accident investigations. His ALPA safety work led to the development of a Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) Advisory Circular. Working with National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) scientists, he coauthored a paper on error inducing contexts in aviation. He was instrumental in the development and implementation of the Crew Resource Management (CRM) course used at his airline and has taught the course to hundreds of his colleagues. Sully is a graduate of the U.S. Air Force Academy (B.S.), Purdue University (M.S.) and the University of Northern Colorado (M.A.). He was a speaker on two panels at the High Reliability Organizations (HRO) 2007 International Conference in Deauville, France May 29-31, 2007. He was recently named a Visiting Scholar at the University of California, Berkeley.
Several passengers say the Captain walked up and down the length of the aisle before abandoning it to rescue personnel... and the freezing Hudson River... to make sure everyone made it out OK.
Captain Sullenberger, wherever you are... if all is at it appears, the first round is on us. It looks like you deserve it.
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Wow,
I don't think we can appreciate how lucky that plane is to have landed where it did. Think about it, the river is 33*, that gives you about 4 minutes. They ended up in an area with police boats able to respond, fire boats, ferry's, not to mention the USCG from New Jersey and NY, and the Port Authority assets. All this, and the aircraft remained intact for 15 minutes for everyone to evac and get off by one of many methods.
No other city on the planet has those kinds of assets in place.
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This in stark contrast with the (I think it was) DC-10 that hit the bridge in D.C. and then sank with nearly everyone still aboard back in the Reagan era. :frown:
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That was what I thought of as soon as I heard a plane was down in the Hudson.
I pictured an airbus hitting the Tappan Zee or the FDR bridge. **shudder**
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I hate jets. they r fast, but props sound bad ass
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This in stark contrast with the (I think it was) DC-10 that hit the bridge in D.C. and then sank with nearly everyone still aboard back in the Reagan era. :frown:
Well if I recall the potomac was iced over, and it was stormy outside? they went down because of ice on the wings. I dont know if the deicers didnt work, or the delay for takeoff.
ps. I dont use IIRC. I'm not 10yrs old. 12 maybe.
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and yes i am new to the forum, but not aces high2.
I know more about aircraft engines than all of that aerodynamic crap, I just know the basics on the aerodynamics.
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Seriosly, Im 13, and I can tell you alot of crap about radial engines AND regular engines, diesels, and hot bulbs. (never heard of hot bulb engine? look up hot bulb engine and click on wikipedia).
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I was talking to chalenge check my quote. :aok
and the ps. was sarcasm :(
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The pilot also flew F4's in Nam.Apparently quite the distinguished record to go along with it. In the red vrs blue ops he ran the blue.They covered alot of his career on Fox. On Cnn they just said it was about time he saved lives after taking so many in Nam.
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I know. Im just telling u that I know more about engines than u do. proof: engine parts (basics), cylinder, piston, crankcase, crankshaft, valve rod, camshaft, air inlet, fuel injector. these are just SOME parts. i don't have time to list them all.
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Yeah they said the pilot was a vet and on the FAA safety board at one time?
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They covered alot of his career on Fox. On Cnn they just said it was about time he saved lives after taking so many in Nam.
that is just flat out not true
whats the matter with you? every station is praising him and you try and make it a politcal statement
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HAHA :rofl
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That was what I thought of as soon as I heard a plane was down in the Hudson.
I pictured an airbus hitting the Tappan Zee or the FDR bridge. **shudder**
FDR Bridge?
LOL!
it wuz illegal canadian geese, operating without authorization in US airspace that kamakazied on a vulnerable french made airliner, which, with it's superb american captain at the controls, managed a precision dead stick water landing. Sadly (but not surprisingly) the french liferafts sank.... BUT the highly trained and competent NYC fire and rescue assets managed to make it to the plane a bit after a ferry boat and all were rescued alive.
New York City does not sleep. It Waits.
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Check out Aero-news.net. They are reporting it was: Reports Confirm The Captain Is SRM Founder Chesley B. "Sully" Sullenberger, III
Reports Confirm The Captain Is SRM Founder Chesley B. "Sully" Sullenberger, III
Here's a guy who may never have to pick up a bar tab ever again. His nickname is "Sully" and he is reportedly the Captain of the US Airways A320 that went down Thursday in near-freezing waters just off LaGuardia International Airport, shortly after departure.
Fate may not have been able to pick a better flyer for this emergency as Captain Sullenberger is a highly regarded aviator with extensive experience, and is also the President & CEO of Safety Reliability Methods, Inc. SRM is "a consulting firm that provides expert solutions to complex problems involving safety, high performance and high reliability."
Sullenberger's web site lists him only as a "captain for a major US airline with over 40 years of flying experience." It also mentions that he is a former US Air Force (USAF) fighter pilot, who has served as an instructor and Air Line Pilots Association (ALPA) safety chairman, accident investigator and national technical committee member.
He has participated in several USAF and National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) accident investigations. His ALPA safety work led to the development of a Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) Advisory Circular. Working with National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) scientists, he coauthored a paper on error inducing contexts in aviation. He was instrumental in the development and implementation of the Crew Resource Management (CRM) course used at his airline and has taught the course to hundreds of his colleagues. Sully is a graduate of the U.S. Air Force Academy (B.S.), Purdue University (M.S.) and the University of Northern Colorado (M.A.). He was a speaker on two panels at the High Reliability Organizations (HRO) 2007 International Conference in Deauville, France May 29-31, 2007. He was recently named a Visiting Scholar at the University of California, Berkeley.
Several passengers say the Captain walked up and down the length of the aisle before abandoning it to rescue personnel... and the freezing Hudson River... to make sure everyone made it out OK.
Captain Sullenberger, wherever you are... if all is at it appears, the first round is on us. It looks like you deserve it.
WTG Sullie! <S>
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Frickn Airbus collision model is whacked he prob saw he was 100 feet from those geese on his end :D
but what a great job he did.
PS you think down the road the other capts will get him water wings
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This in stark contrast with the (I think it was) DC-10 that hit the bridge in D.C. and then sank with nearly everyone still aboard back in the Reagan era. :frown:
It was a Air Florida 737 flight 90 sitting for an hour and a half after deice in a blizzard in 1982 .. see thishttp://www.essortment.com/all/airfloridaplan_rjgw.htm (http://www.essortment.com/all/airfloridaplan_rjgw.htm)
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FDR Bridge?
LOL!
it wuz illegal canadian geese, operating without authorization in US airspace that kamakazied on a vulnerable french made airliner, which, with it's superb american captain at the controls, managed a precision dead stick water landing. Sadly (but not surprisingly) the french liferafts sank.... BUT the highly trained and competent NYC fire and rescue assets managed to make it to the plane a bit after a ferry boat and all were rescued alive.
New York City does not sleep. It Waits.
It surrendered to the invading geese!
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Jet Engines have to pass many tests for certification.
Here is a sample from the 777. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pSabZ9BIkc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pSabZ9BIkc)
Its pretty short and interesting, but the part I'm referring to is at 1:51 where they show a simulated bird strike of a 5.5 lb bird.
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On Cnn they just said it was about time he saved lives after taking so many in Nam.
:lol
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This in stark contrast with the (I think it was) DC-10 that hit the bridge in D.C. and then sank with nearly everyone still aboard back in the Reagan era. :frown:
The only thing the US Airways crash in the Hudson in common with the Air Florida 737 that crashed in the Potomac River after crashing into a bridge was that both planes ended up in the water.
The Air Florida plane crashed due multiple flight crew errors, such as failing to turn on the anti-icing equipment, using reverse thrusters in a snow storm and failing to abort take off per FAA regulations even after they detected power problems with the engine and visually spotting ice and snow build up on the wings.
ack-ack
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:aok To the pilots! Or does the Airbus have some part in it as well? (Remember that German Airbus making the sidewing landing).
Anyway, birds and other objects are no joking matter. I once worked inside the US perimeter of the Keflavik airbase, I was planting a combination of Lupins and grass in the surrounding lava-fields. The idea was to increase vegetation to make it harder for the seagulls as well as building a possible habitat for foxes.
Once I was on a visit to the US squadron, I remember that the car I was in on the way to the hangar was stopped and all the tires inspected for possible pebbles. A pebble can apparently do something really bad to an F-15...
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The only thing the US Airways crash in the Hudson in common with the Air Florida 737 that crashed in the Potomac River after crashing into a bridge was that both planes ended up in the water.
The Air Florida plane crashed due multiple flight crew errors, such as failing to turn on the anti-icing equipment, using reverse thrusters in a snow storm and failing to abort take off per FAA regulations even after they detected power problems with the engine and visually spotting ice and snow build up on the wings.
ack-ack
I think the larger contrast would be the terrible loss of life... and so my point.
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that is just flat out not true
whats the matter with you? every station is praising him and you try and make it a politcal statement
You yanked the rod right outta my hands. :rofl
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On Cnn they just said it was about time he saved lives after taking so many in Nam.
That's a pretty retarded thing to say.
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They didn't actually say that, did they?
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You yanked the rod right outta my hands. :rofl
Like I said.............sheesh. No CNN didnt say that and several of the stations were talking about the flight records being really good in the airlines the past 2 years.CNN didnt jinx it.I gotta put less stank on that bait. :rolleyes:
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Like I said.............sheesh. No CNN didnt say that and several of the stations were talking about the flight records being really good in the airlines the past 2 years.CNN didnt jinx it.I gotta put less stank on that bait. :rolleyes:
well im glad thats a joke, because you'd really need your head checked out if it wasnt
i hope i have not offended :salute
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Real life collision model sucks :(
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I hope he got the ditch for that one... Be a shame for him to lose ALL his perkies for the goose kills. :D
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Passengers recount harrowing tales of jet's Hudson River landing, as investigators probe cause
Airline passengers wait to board boats to be rescued on the wings of a US Airways Airbus 320 jetliner that safely ditched in the frigid waters of the Hudson River in New York, Thursday Jan. 15, 2009 after a flock of birds knocked out both its engines. All 155 people on board survived. (AP Photo/Steven Day)
01-16-2009 9:04 AM
By JENNIFER PELTZ and CRISTIAN SALAZAR, Associated Press Writers
NEW YORK (Associated Press) -- Investigators brought in a giant crane and a barge Friday to help pull a US Airways jetliner from the Hudson River, and survivors among the 155 people aboard recounted tales of horror and hailed the pilot as a hero who delivered them from certain death.
Pilot Chesley B. "Sully" Sullenberger III was in good spirits and showing no outward signs of stress from the ordeal, a pilots union official said.
While on a rescue raft with pilot Sullenberger in the frigid cold, passenger Billy Campbell said he went to him.
"I leaned over and grabbed his arm, and I said I just want to thank you on behalf of all of us," Campbell told NBC's "Today" show. "He just said, 'You're welcome.'"'
Campbell was sitting in the back of the plane when it landed on the water.
"The water was rushing in through the window seams and we couldn't get the back exit open," he said. "So, that scared us a little bit, and we tried and the flight attendant did a wonderful job trying, but then finally turned and said immediately "'Go to the wing (exit).'"
The parents of a 3-year-old girl and a 9-month-old boy recounted Friday how they and a fellow passenger prepared themselves for the crash landing and escaped from the fast-submerging plane.
"I held Sophia and we did the best we could to brace ourselves up," Martin Sosa, the father, told NBC's "Today."
"And the gentleman beside me said, "Would you like me to brace your son?" said his wife, Tess Sosa. "And I said okay, because he mentioned that he had been on scary flights before."
"And he did, he braced my son. There was an impact. My son was crying. That was such a good sign to me."
National Transportation Safety Board investigators will now focus on recovering the black box from the plane and interviewing the crew about the accident _ apparently caused by birds that slammed into the plane's two engines. The Airbus A320, built in 1999, was tethered to a pier on the tip of Lower Manhattan on Friday morning _ about 4 miles from where it touched down. Only a gray wing tip could be seen jutting out of the water near a Lower Manhattan sea wall. About a block away, it was business as usual as residents jogged or headed to work.
"We want to get the plane recovered as soon as possible but we want to do it a safe way," NTSB spokeswoman Kitty Higgins said.
Higgins said one challenge will be hauling the plane out of the water without causing it to break apart.
Sullenberger and co-pilot Jeff Skiles and crew have become instant heroes for guiding the plane to safety and safely evacuating the passengers. Sullenberger's wife told CNN she hadn't been watching the news and was stunned to hear about the ordeal from her husband after it was all over.
"I've heard Sully say to people, `It's rare for an airline pilot to have an incident in their career,'" Lorrie Sullenberger said. "When he called me he said, `There's been an accident.' At first I thought it was something minor, but then he told me the circumstances and my body started shaking and I rushed to get our daughters out of school."
James Ray, a spokesman for the U.S. Airline Pilots Association, said he spoke with Sullenberger on Friday and described him as being "in good shape physically, mentally and in good spirits."
"He was just very calm and cool, very relaxed, just very professional," Ray said.
Ray said the flight crew was resting and likely would meet with investigators later Friday or Saturday. He said the crew has been asked not talk to the press about the accident until after the NTSB investigation is complete.
Sullenberger, 57, of Danville, Calif., is a former Air Force fighter pilot who has flown for US Airways for 29 years. He also runs a safety consulting firm.
US Airways chief executive Doug Parker said in a statement it was premature to speculate about the cause. Federal Aviation Administration spokeswoman Laura Brown said there was no immediate indication the incident was "anything other than an accident."
At a City Hall ceremony to honor those who came to the aid of the stranded passengers, Mayor Michael Bloomberg said Sullenberger's actions "inspired people around the city, and millions more around the world."
Bloomberg planned to present the pilot with the key to the city.
It was a chain of improbability. Birds tangle with airplanes regularly but rarely bring down commercial aircraft. Jet engines sometimes fail _ but both at once? Pilots train for a range of emergencies, but few, if any, have ever successfully ditched a jet in one of the nation's busiest waterways without any life-threatening injuries.
"We had a miracle on 34th Street. I believe now we have had a miracle on the Hudson," Gov. David Paterson said.
If the accident was hard to imagine, so was the result: Besides one victim with two broken legs, there were no other reports of serious injuries to the 155 people aboard.
"You're happy to be alive, really," 23-year-old passenger Bill Zuhoski said.
US Airways Airbus A320, bound for Charlotte, N.C., took off from LaGuardia Airport at 3:26 p.m. Less than a minute later, the pilot reported a "double bird strike" and said he needed to return to LaGuardia, said Doug Church, a spokesman for the National Air Traffic Controllers Association.
Passengers quickly realized something was terrifyingly wrong.
"I heard an explosion, and I saw flames coming from the left wing, and I thought, `This isn't good,'" said Dave Sanderson, 47, who was heading home to Charlotte from a business trip. "Then it was just controlled chaos. People started running up the aisle. People were getting shoved out of the way."
Then came an ominous warning from the captain: "Brace for impact because we're going down," according to passenger Jeff Kolodjay, 31.
Some passengers prayed. Vallie Collins, 37, tapped out a text message to her husband, Steve: "My plane is crashing." For a desperate half-hour, he was unable to get in touch with her to learn that she had survived.
Onshore, from streets and office windows, witnesses watched the plane steadily descend off roughly 48th Street in midtown Manhattan.
"I just thought, `Why is it so low?' And, splash, it hit the water," said Barbara Sambriski, a researcher at The Associated Press, who watched the water landing from the news organization's high-rise office.
The 150 passengers and five crew members were forced to escape as the plane quickly became submerged up to its windows in 36-degree water. Dozens stood on the aircraft's wings on a 20-degree day, one of the coldest of the winter, as commuter ferries and Coast Guard vessels converged to rescue them.
One ferry, the Thomas Jefferson of the company NY Waterway, arrived within minutes. Riders grabbed life vests and rope and tossed them to plane passengers in the water.
"They were cheering when we pulled up," Capt. Vincent Lombardi. "People were panicking. They said, `Hurry up! Hurry up!'"
Two police scuba divers said they pulled a woman from a lifeboat "frightened out of her mind" and lethargic from hypothermia. Helen Rodriguez, a paramedic who was among the first to arrive at the scene, said she saw one woman with two broken legs.
Paramedics treated at least 78 patients, many for hypothermia, bruises and other minor injuries, fire officials said. Some of the shivering survivors were swaddled in blankets, their feet and legs soaked.
From 1990 to 2007, there were nearly 80,000 reported incidents of birds striking nonmilitary aircraft, about one strike for every 10,000 flights, according to the Federal Aviation Administration and the Department of Agriculture.
The Hudson accident took place almost exactly 27 years after an Air Florida plane bound for Tampa crashed into the Potomac River just after takeoff from Washington National Airport, killing 78 people. Five people on that flight survived.
On Dec. 20, a Continental Airlines plane veered off a runway and slid into a snowy field at Denver International Airport, injuring 38 people. That was the first major crash of a commercial airliner in the United States since Aug. 27, 2006, when 49 people were killed after a Comair jetliner took off from a Lexington, Ky., runway that was too short.
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Associated Press writers Joan Lowy, Michael J. Sniffen and Eileen Sullivan in Washington; David B. Caruso, Sara Kugler, Marcus Franklin, Samantha Gross, Deborah Hastings, Colleen Long and Richard Pyle in New York; Victor Epstein in Weekhawken, N.J.; Sam Hananel in Washington; and Harry R. Weber in Atlanta contributed to this report.
(This version CORRECTS that quote starting "And the gentleman..." came from Tess Sosa, not her husband.)
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I also live in Danville, I cant wait to run into Sully at the store or somthin, and shake his hand
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I'd buy the guy a few rounds. He did a "non" bang up job in what couldnt have been the easiest conditions. Kept the plane intact at the same time. Nice job.
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He should run for Senator of New York. :aok
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This guy has an amazing career and aviation safety experience. :O
http://safetyreliability.com/about_us
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I also live in Danville, I cant wait to run into Sully at the store or somthin, and shake his hand
stalker! :rofl
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It's funny how there is never any mention at all of the first officer. There's a reason the airplane is to be flown by a crew of 2. While the captain was flying, the co-pilot was setting everything up for the approach, checking systems, running the emergency checklists with the captain, etc. I think they should give him some mention as well.
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It's funny how there is never any mention at all of the first officer. There's a reason the airplane is to be flown by a crew of 2. While the captain was flying, the co-pilot was setting everything up for the approach, checking systems, running the emergency checklists with the captain, etc. I think they should give him some mention as well.
ahh co-pilots (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/Stargirl1/9770_9153400654.jpg)
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He should run for Senator of New York. :aok
I don't know, he would probabley win, and then New York would have to deal with a Californian calling the shots (I'm all for it, but that's probabley just me).
And I strongly agree, they should recognize the co-pilot, the cabin crew, and the boat crews (ferrys, tugs, coast guard, and all the other boats that were on the scene in less than a minute) more since they all acted swiftly, made good calls and did things by the book resulting in one plane full of very lucky people.
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on a vulnerable french made airliner, which, with it's superb american captain at the controls, managed a precision dead stick water landing. Sadly (but not surprisingly) the french liferafts sank....
Hangtime, very amusing but I hate to break it to you. Airbus is not French, was never French and never will be French. Stop giving the French all the credit. As for the French liferafts? Well they're American.
But back to the point. The pilots did a great job particularly the Captain. Most pilots earn their entire salary at least once in their career. If he hadn't done it before, he qualifies now.
Interestingly this is the third recent double engine failure in an airliner in recent times. There was the Heathrow 777 on finals and the more recently the Ryanair B737 which also had a birdstrike and double engine failure while landing at Rome. That pilot did a similarly brilliant job getting the jet onto the runway but somehow never got the credit for saving everyone's life.
They say everything happens in threes, well I hope this is the end of the double engine failure trend. :noid
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We won't have any more double engine failures in primary flight training in AETC after about July this year...
That said, the T-6 continues to have it's one engine quit at inopportune moments.
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From what I've heard from the news they've been looking for the engines from the bottom of the river and they have now found one of the engines - still attached to the plane.