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Title: AH Convention Planes
Post by: 96Delta on January 15, 2009, 11:10:04 PM
This is to Hitech or anyone else who wishes to
comment.

I have seen you create an RV8 and a flying laser-armed
shark for the past two conventions.  I would like to
suggest some other subjects for future convention
*goodies*.

Instead of creating cartoon planes that enjoy a one-time
use, why not create planes that will, as they are added
in subsequent conventions, lead to a whole new arena:
a Korean War Airwar Arena.

For example, the planes you build now and the time
invested in their creation are, IMHO, a waste.  If you
use this time to create planes for another era they
would both be fun for the conventioneers to fly
in the MA, but would also be eventually useful for
a new arena that will attract a whole new generation of
subscribers.

Try this:

2009 AH Convention - N.A. F-86 Sabre Jet
2010 AH Convention - MiG 15
* open new arena for Korean War Dogfights*

2011 AH Convention - F9F Panther
2012 AH Convention - ?

2013 AH Convention - SPAD
2014 AH Convention - Fokker DR1

...and so on.

This would introduce planes that would eventually be
used to attract a whole new slew of virtual pilots
who enjoy Korean war subjects.  Same goes for WWI
subjects.

Tons of choices too:
http://www.korean-war.com/KWAircraft/index.html

Just a though that has been on my mind for
some time.  Looks like a win-win from a business
perspective.  What are everyone's thoughts?

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Title: Re: AH Convention Planes
Post by: phatzo on January 15, 2009, 11:14:44 PM
I seen an rv8 over a vbase one day I was confused as to how it got there has anyone else seen this
Title: Re: AH Convention Planes
Post by: DaddyAck on January 16, 2009, 12:43:42 AM
If I remember correctly, when it used to be something like /enable RV8 or something like that.  It worked in wid war I think until it got corrected.  That has been a while ago though.
Title: Re: AH Convention Planes
Post by: CAP1 on January 16, 2009, 07:40:03 AM
funny.......
all the complaining about arena splits, and here someone is asking for another kind of arena split....... :D
Title: Re: AH Convention Planes
Post by: The Fugitive on January 16, 2009, 08:01:00 AM
One year the con flight was the 163. I remember we were on the old pizza/AKdesert map and there was a million 163 screaming through the air. What a frustrating night that was !! Trying to catch them suckers grrrr  :rolleyes:

I think this game has more than enough jets, and we have already seen what happens when they try to work on another version. A "jets" arena would turn into a new CT, if only because HT would want to do the job right.
Title: Re: AH Convention Planes
Post by: Kazaa on January 16, 2009, 08:16:08 AM
Delta makes a good point.
Title: Re: AH Convention Planes
Post by: Helm on January 16, 2009, 08:55:47 AM
This game/sim is about WW II ......ummmm  not Korea ....why ask for something you are not going to get? ....you might as well ask for an
X-wing ...or a Tie-fighter ...or for that matter the Star ship Enterprise.

Also, has it occurred to you that the Lazer sharks, flying sheep ....etc etc are just the HTC team having some fun and blowing off some steam? They like to have fun too!  Yet you ask them to basically re-write the game just to go to the convention?  .....give 'em a break will ya? Quit trying to make ACES HIGH something it is NOT.


Helm ...out


Title: Re: AH Convention Planes
Post by: Waffle on January 16, 2009, 09:20:46 AM
Sharks with frikken laser beams = 2 man hours
New Plane = 120+ man hours
Flying Sharks with frikkin laser beams at con drunk = Priceless.


;)

PS: I wanted to do AT-AT walkers from Star Wars - load em up with 5" Puffy ack for Lasers... :)
Title: Re: AH Convention Planes
Post by: 96Delta on January 16, 2009, 09:46:11 AM
This game/sim is about WW II ......ummmm  not Korea ....why ask for something you are not going to get? ....you might as well ask for an
X-wing ...or a Tie-fighter ...or for that matter the Star ship Enterprise.

Also, has it occurred to you that the Lazer sharks, flying sheep ....etc etc are just the HTC team having some fun and blowing off some steam? They like to have fun too!  Yet you ask them to basically re-write the game just to go to the convention?  .....give 'em a break will ya? Quit trying to make ACES HIGH something it is NOT.


Helm ...out




Helm,

This game isn't about WWII...its about earning a living.
Its about money.

My idea would allow Hitech to capture an entirely new
subscriber demographic and, as any businessman worth his
salt will tell you, finding a new market for your wares
is priceless.
Title: Re: AH Convention Planes
Post by: daddog on January 16, 2009, 10:05:16 AM
That is a good idea Delta. If not AC in later wars (Korea for example) but AC we would use in the game.:aok

In years past they have created new aircraft that we would use in the game. The Me-163 for example. Taking those off the deck of a CV was a lot of fun.  :cool:

Title: Re: AH Convention Planes
Post by: CAP1 on January 16, 2009, 12:09:50 PM
Sharks with frikken laser beams = 2 man hours
New Plane = 120+ man hours
Flying Sharks with frikkin laser beams at con drunk = Priceless.


;)

PS: I wanted to do AT-AT walkers from Star Wars - load em up with 5" Puffy ack for Lasers... :)

well.....i'll join in......

how 'bout a colonial viper, and a cylon raider?  :D
Title: Re: AH Convention Planes
Post by: SunBat on January 16, 2009, 12:37:22 PM
Just curious.  Why did you leave 2012 blank?  Bellly intervashting....
Title: Re: AH Convention Planes
Post by: Bizman on January 16, 2009, 12:43:11 PM
Who's interested in Korea? This is an international gaming community, and Korea was kind of a "local" war. We Europeans weren't involved. And we are over twice as many as US-americans. As well we could want a planeset for Spanish Civil War with volunteering participants from most European countries.
Title: Re: AH Convention Planes
Post by: BigR on January 16, 2009, 01:05:28 PM
Helm,

This game isn't about WWII...its about earning a living.
Its about money.

My idea would allow Hitech to capture an entirely new
subscriber demographic and, as any businessman worth his
salt will tell you, finding a new market for your wares
is priceless.

Adding a couple Korean jets to the game isn't going to pull in anyone new. AirWarrior proved this. There was a Korean Arena, and no one ever went in there. Sure, it would be a novelty for a while, but everyone would just migrate back to the main Arenas. Its the same exact thing that would have happened with CT if they would have gone through with it. With limited man power, and a lot of other things HTC wants to get done, working on Korea era planes would be a huge waste of time.
Title: Re: AH Convention Planes
Post by: llama on January 16, 2009, 01:29:16 PM
The big difference is that an Evil Con Mission plane can have crude art, a strange flight model, and have significant flaws, but it can still be a lot of fun for about two hours of playing.

It only takes, oh, I dunno, 40 hours to make it as opposed to 400 hours to make a "real" plane that eventually gets "real" use.

-Llama
Title: Re: AH Convention Planes
Post by: dedalos on January 16, 2009, 01:53:28 PM

New Plane = 120+ man hours / 8 hours per day = A new plane every 2 weeks * fudge factor = 1 plane per month


 :rofl
Title: Re: AH Convention Planes
Post by: LLogann on January 16, 2009, 02:00:33 PM
You must be a business owner by the way you speak.  Or plan to be when you get out of highschool?  How about you put together the BP for adding Korea to AH, go to Grapevine and present it.  Since they obviously don't know anything down there.

Helm,

This game isn't about WWII...its about earning a living.
Its about money.

My idea would allow Hitech to capture an entirely new
subscriber demographic and, as any businessman worth his
salt will tell you, finding a new market for your wares
is priceless.

You're also way off on the last sentence.  Only a stupid business person, or a short sighted one, would explore a new market without saturating the current one. 
Title: Re: AH Convention Planes
Post by: Waffle on January 16, 2009, 02:10:54 PM
:rofl

That's just basic mesh :P
Title: Re: AH Convention Planes
Post by: Helm on January 16, 2009, 02:13:18 PM
Helm,

This game isn't about WWII...its about earning a living.
Its about money.

My idea would allow Hitech to capture an entirely new
subscriber demographic and, as any businessman worth his
salt will tell you, finding a new market for your wares
is priceless.

 Sorry to burst your bubble but the game IS about WW II ......not "Korea" .....not the "War of the Roses" ...not the "Civil War" or for that matter any other war other then world war II.

   The other poster was correct Air Warrior had Korea ....and NOBODY played there .....I know because i flew there from time to time.  It was a ghost town.

  The guy who mentioned the Spanish Civil War has an excellent Idea ....since some of thoses planes did actually get used in WW II.  He is also correct in that more Nations were involved in the conflict that matter.  I know of no Chinese or Korean players.

Helm ...out  
Title: Re: AH Convention Planes
Post by: dedalos on January 16, 2009, 03:15:04 PM
That's just basic mesh :P

Just messing with ya, lol
Title: Re: AH Convention Planes
Post by: NoBaddy on January 16, 2009, 04:20:44 PM
The big difference is that an Evil Con Mission plane can have crude art, a strange flight model, and have significant flaws, but it can still be a lot of fun for about two hours of playing.

-Llama

Most XCLENT!!! Some one that gets it. :D

Title: Re: AH Convention Planes
Post by: choker41 on January 16, 2009, 04:54:48 PM
Sharks with frikken laser beams = 2 man hours
New Plane = 120+ man hours
Flying Sharks with frikkin laser beams at con drunk = Priceless.


;)

PS: I wanted to do AT-AT walkers from Star Wars - load em up with 5" Puffy ack for Lasers... :)
LOL that would be funny taking into a town.  I just want the Millenium Falcon.  Love to see some p51's dive in on me and hit "Light Speed" thats of course if Chewy fixed the hyperdrive.  God I just turned into my brother the Star Wars geek.
Title: Re: AH Convention Planes
Post by: CAP1 on January 16, 2009, 05:54:53 PM
Most XCLENT!!! Some one that gets it. :D



SHSU YOU!!!!!!!!


friggin goin around and tryin to use common sense..... :furious :furious






























 :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: AH Convention Planes
Post by: Enker on January 16, 2009, 06:00:16 PM
well.....i'll join in......

how 'bout a colonial viper, and a cylon raider?  :D
A viper would be frakking awesome. Please?
Title: Re: AH Convention Planes
Post by: crazyivan on January 16, 2009, 09:31:47 PM
How about hot air ballons! :rofl
Title: Re: AH Convention Planes
Post by: Ghosth on January 17, 2009, 06:15:55 AM
ROFL Waffle, AT-AT's would be awesome!
Title: Re: AH Convention Planes
Post by: phatzo on January 18, 2009, 08:55:06 PM
otw to A29 with Ewoks
Title: Re: AH Convention Planes
Post by: Masherbrum on January 18, 2009, 09:04:10 PM
I'd rather see WWI craft.   I'd forgo WWII rides altogether.   
Title: Re: AH Convention Planes
Post by: rabbidrabbit on January 18, 2009, 09:08:31 PM
Helm,

This game isn't about WWII...its about earning a living.
Its about money.

My idea would allow Hitech to capture an entirely new
subscriber demographic and, as any businessman worth his
salt will tell you, finding a new market for your wares
is priceless.

Given the long list of things that could be done to improve the core product via gameplay and graphics another tremendous distraction seems unwarranted.
Title: Re: AH Convention Planes
Post by: phatzo on January 18, 2009, 10:24:15 PM
I'd rather see WWI craft.   I'd forgo WWII rides altogether.   

another sim had a two week period where all aircraft were enabled on a new map. I shot down a zeke in a sopwith camel, lmao at him all the way. I think I may have even pinged an f-86 on his way past