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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: rogerdee on January 17, 2009, 02:55:17 PM
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everyone wants it but i think its damn ugly,if it looks like this. :eek:
http://www.rogerdee.co.uk/films/buffalo.wmv
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Rogerdee it is absolutely gorgeous!
The Brewsters played a very important part in the early portion of WWII
Some were based in rangoon (RAF) before the AVG got to China.
The Finns used them with great success!
It would be a most welcome addition to Aces High (as would many other early warbirds)
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Where did you get that video from?
The graphics especially the lighting they use looks good...
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Where did you get that video from?
The graphics especially the lighting they use looks good...
il2
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I second roger about it being ugly, and Hajo about us needing it
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(http://www.geocities.com/Aerialdragon/doll01.jpg)
I see your point....
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(http://www.geocities.com/Aerialdragon/doll01.jpg)
I see your point....
And yet they grow up so fast...
(http://r0b0mix0r.free.fr/stockage/m00t_imgs/up/stuff/Soleil_Moon_Frye_l4.jpg)
:D
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its not il2
its batle station midway,which i cant play very well on my pc!!!pretty game but not that good
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graphics did look nice oh yeah and the plane. :rofl
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I thought I read once that they were called the flying coffins.
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I thought I read once that they were called the flying coffins.
Maybe the Americans though so, but the Finns kicked Soviet tomato in them during the Winter War. Many of the top scoring aces of the war were Finns who flew Brewsters in the Winter war and then Messerschmitts in the Continuation War, including Ilmari Juutilainen who scored 34 of his 94 victories in the Brewster during the Winter War.
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Its a sexy flying coffin. 'Nuff said.
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Maybe the Americans though so, but the Finns kicked Soviet tomato in them during the Winter War. Many of the top scoring aces of the war were Finns who flew Brewsters in the Winter war and then Messerschmitts in the Continuation War, including Ilmari Juutilainen who scored 34 of his 94 victories in the Brewster during the Winter War.
Brewster did not see action in Winter War, only 5 birds active in the last weeks of Winter War.
These achievements were done during the Continuation War, before Brewster's were replaced by 109's.
LeLv 24 was the most successful squadron scoring 460 kills in Brewster's.
Scores for Brewster in Continuation War.
http://www.warbirdforum.com/scores.htm (http://www.warbirdforum.com/scores.htm)
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Rogerdee it is absolutely gorgeous!
The Brewsters played a very important part in the early portion of WWII
Some were based in rangoon (RAF) before the AVG got to China.
The Finns used them with great success!
It would be a most welcome addition to Aces High (as would many other early warbirds)
Amen!!!
Helm ...out
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I also wouldn't be surprised if Japanese pilots in 1942 were, on the whole, more experienced than the Russians who fought the Finns in the early part of the Continuation war.
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Brewster did not see action in Winter War, only 5 birds active in the last weeks of Winter War.
These achievements were done during the Continuation War, before Brewster's were replaced by 109's.
LeLv 24 was the most successful squadron scoring 460 kills in Brewster's.
Scores for Brewster in Continuation War.
http://www.warbirdforum.com/scores.htm (http://www.warbirdforum.com/scores.htm)
Oops, sorry.
I knew I'd screw that up... :)
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Gav,
I was thinking exactly along those lines as well. The Japanese at the beginning of the Pacific War were much more experienced (arguably one of the best-trained and hardened air forces in the world at the time) and flying far more advanced machines than anything the Russians had in significant numbers when the Finns were starting to really rack up victories.
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It is dam ugly but served a large portion of the war. Defiantly fills a large gap in our events
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Joe Foss (USMC, 26 kills), said the Brewster was an adequate fighter, and that they would have scored just as many kills in it during the Solomons/Guadalcanal campaign as the F4F Wildcat had they used it, which had similar performance. Its not remembered with the more famous Allied fighters because of its more limited use. If you really look close at an F2A-3 (the version the USMC used), its not any worse than say a Hurricane IA, or a P-40B, or an F4F Wildcat.
It gets its bad rep amongst the US services for its rather tough stand against a huge IJN air strike over Midway in June 1942, where 15 Brewsters and 7 Wildcats fought a large defensive engagement against 108 IJN fighters and attack planes. The Japanese, were impressed by the defense they put up, according to their accounts, but the defenders did suffer more than 1/2 attrition. The rest is a lot of post war "remembering the P-51 and Corsair" and fogetting anything that wasn't super glamourous.
In the hands of the RAF, and RAAF and the Dutch, it was used at a time in the war when they were retreating, spares and proper supplies were lacking, as was training, and despite that it had a respectable kill-loss ratio, but again, it was not going to be remembered with the Spitfire, Typhoon, Mosquito, ect, that gave them victory in WW2.
In other words, the reality is more interesting than the myths.
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I also wouldn't be surprised if Japanese pilots in 1942 were, on the whole, more experienced than the Russians who fought the Finns in the early part of the Continuation war.
At the beginning of 1942 the Japanese were quite probably the highest trained pilots in the world.