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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Cthulhu on January 26, 2009, 02:13:55 PM
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Almost hurts to look at it like this.
(http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/6872/valuablejunkff1.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
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Looks like a 190s engine dont it? The cowling?
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Looks like an upside- down Jumo 213.
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Looks like an upside- down Jumo 213.
Yup. Wonder how many of these are still around.
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Off a Ju-88? Or FW?
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Off a Ju-88? Or FW?
That's supposedly a 213A, so I'm pretty sure it's out of a Dora. Kind of hard to tell, but I believe the Dora's were more closely cowled than the Ju 188's. Thinking that's part of the supercharger on the rear.
What do you guys think?
(http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/9960/yellow10smallhh7.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
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I think it'd be cheaper just to build one from scratch.
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That's supposedly a 213A, so I'm pretty sure it's out of a Dora. Kind of hard to tell, but I believe the Dora's were more closely cowled than the Ju 188's. Thinking that's part of the supercharger on the rear.
What do you guys think?
(http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/9960/yellow10smallhh7.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
Hard to tell which plane the Jumo 213 in the first picture is from. I think the radiator and engine were manufactured together and were not aircraft specific.
The engine in yellow 10, an Fw 190D-13, is actually a Jumo 213F (possibly the only one left). The 213F was similar to the 213A, but had a different supercharger like the Jumo 213E in the Ta 152H which gave it significantly better high altitude performance than the 213A.
Edit: After looking at pictures of Jumo 213 engined Ju-88s and -188s it does look like the fighter installation of the 213 is more closely cowled.
Also, that looks like the White 1 foundation's Jumo 213 http://www.white1foundation.org (http://www.white1foundation.org)
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I don't know engines well, but I'd have to say that looks to me like its out of a 109D now that I look hard at it- its got the big blower on the back, AND its exhaust stacks look more 190-ish than they do Ju-esque.
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I need a roll of paper towels to clean up the drool at my desk. How gorgeous is that??????? :aok
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That's supposedly a 213A, so I'm pretty sure it's out of a Dora. Kind of hard to tell, but I believe the Dora's were more closely cowled than the Ju 188's. Thinking that's part of the supercharger on the rear.
What do you guys think?
(http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/9960/yellow10smallhh7.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
sexi
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Almost hurts to look at it like this.
(http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/6872/valuablejunkff1.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
looks like an fw engine.........
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I've seen it, I think at the LEMB. It's some engine bought for some restoration, can't recall what exactly. Had this image saved last year with the details in the exif, but lost it with an hdd crash.
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Hard to tell which plane the Jumo 213 in the first picture is from. I think the radiator and engine were manufactured together and were not aircraft specific.
The engine in yellow 10, an Fw 190D-13, is actually a Jumo 213F (possibly the only one left). The 213F was similar to the 213A, but had a different supercharger like the Jumo 213E in the Ta 152H which gave it significantly better high altitude performance than the 213A.
Edit: After looking at pictures of Jumo 213 engined Ju-88s and -188s it does look like the fighter installation of the 213 is more closely cowled.
Also, that looks like the White 1 foundation's Jumo 213 http://www.white1foundation.org (http://www.white1foundation.org)
That is the White 1 foundation's Jumo 213. I used Yellow 10 because 1) it's the best picture I know of, and 2) Yellow 10 is just plain gorgeous (BTW, moot hates the paint scheme, so I guess skill & taste don't necessarily go hand in hand :D).
I'd love to have the D-13 in game, not just for the better high-alt performance, but mainly for the triple MG 151/20 cannons. Besides, we already have the skin courtesy of Edbert.
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Ha.. I still can't believe that's a WWII scheme and not something out of a modern day fashion catalog. :lol
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Ha.. I still can't believe that's a WWII scheme and not something out of a modern day fashion catalog. :lol
That's a late-late-late-war whateverthehellpaintwecanfind scheme. You see the purple-gray wing underside?
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Must've been one hell of a hurry to get it done..
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Must've been one hell of a hurry to get it done..
You ever paint while being shot at?
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You have the actual exact story behind the paintjob?
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You have the actual exact story behind the paintjob?
Seem to recall reading it somewhere. I'll look.
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Nothing on the paint, but still a bit enlightening about the manufacture:
http://www.airspacemag.com/history-of-flight/cit-stansfield.html
Update:
As far as the colors:
The underside of “Yellow 10’s” wings were natural metal with RLM 75 on the leading edge and RLM 76 on the ailerons.
http://www.xs4all.nl/~rhorta/jgrlm.htm
Now to find out why....
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Thanks, let me know if you ever come across the why. :)
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If it is a Dora engine, it is sitting upside down.
As for arguing paint schemes... WOW... just WOW
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Bodhi, just saying it looks like something off a fictional GI joe jet fighter, literally. It's nothing like the beautiful camos you find pretty much anywhere else in WWII. It's just my taste.. that camo's pretty much what I'd do if I wanted to make fun of luftwaffe schemes. It prolly only personaly bugs me because the plane itself is dead sexy. It sure looked freakin beautiful when I saw it IRL at Champlin, I guess that's also why I'm disappointed that the camo's not so nice.. That and it being shipped out of Phx before I got to really stare at it long enough - so not only is it the last of its kind, but I missed the only chance ever of seeing it in full glory.
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moot, bottom line is that the only real force to use glossy schemes were naval fighters using all blue (often polished) paint schemes. Depicting WW2 fighters such as a Dora with anything like is inaccurate, mind you it is way cheaper to maintain.
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I thought you were pointing out it's not worth complaining about, like the orange 152 camo.