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Title: Archers of Aces High.
Post by: ODBAL on January 27, 2009, 11:19:47 PM
Just finished up fletching some arrows.  What do you think?

These are for my dad.
(http://i351.photobucket.com/albums/q461/kevlq/TeamHoyt015.jpg)

These are mine (Snakeskin on tip) and my Girlfriends (Girly ones on bottom). Still waiting for our pin nocks.
(http://i351.photobucket.com/albums/q461/kevlq/TeamHoyt016.jpg)
Title: Re: Archers of Aces High.
Post by: CAP1 on January 27, 2009, 11:30:01 PM
how do you like those vanse? i've only ever used the ones that you need to glue on with a fletching tool.

i like the flames though........ :D
Title: Re: Archers of Aces High.
Post by: ODBAL on January 27, 2009, 11:31:54 PM
how do you like those vanse? i've only ever used the ones that you need to glue on with a fletching tool.

i like the flames though........ :D

These are glue on Vanes.  Flex Fletch.  I have yet to shoot them, or ever use them.  I usually shoot blazers but thought I would give these a shot, lots of things being said about them.  I'll let you know.
Title: Re: Archers of Aces High.
Post by: SKJohn on January 28, 2009, 12:24:52 AM
Nocks are a waste of time for me - I just shoot thru them when I "robin hood" my arrows.  :D
Title: Re: Archers of Aces High.
Post by: ink on January 28, 2009, 12:39:22 AM
 the vanes are supposed to have a slight wrap? to make the arrow spin? its hard to tell from your pics but it looks like they are going straight up.


nope I was wrong they are both right.


http://www.bowhunter-ed.com/mi/course/ch4_fletching.htm

PS

the flames do look awesome :aok
Title: Re: Archers of Aces High.
Post by: Chalenge on January 28, 2009, 01:17:18 AM
The last time I shot a bow we used fletchings of turkey feathers. At the time I was an exceptional shot but the newer equipment makes it easy for even a beginner shoot well and modern compounds have become the Spit XVI of archery to me.
Title: Re: Archers of Aces High.
Post by: bozon on January 28, 2009, 02:27:00 AM
it is all wrong: 7 comes between 6 and 8. 11 should be where 7 is now.
Title: Re: Archers of Aces High.
Post by: Tec on January 28, 2009, 03:11:49 AM
This thread makes me sad, I haven't been to a 3D shoot in about a decade.  Might have to get back into it.  I always preferred fletchings to vanes, but then again I never shot carbon arrows or a real hot bow.
Title: Re: Archers of Aces High.
Post by: ODBAL on January 28, 2009, 09:55:58 AM
the vanes are supposed to have a slight wrap? to make the arrow spin? its hard to tell from your pics but it looks like they are going straight up.


nope I was wrong they are both right.


http://www.bowhunter-ed.com/mi/course/ch4_fletching.htm

PS

the flames do look awesome :aok

There are really 3 options when it comes to fletching.  Straight, offset, and Helical.  These are fletched with a right helical, which is an actual twist to the vane.  Straight is, straight.  And offset is a straight vane that does not run straight down the arrow, rather a couple degrees left to right, or right to left.   There is really no "right way" to do it.

The last time I shot a bow we used fletchings of turkey feathers. At the time I was an exceptional shot but the newer equipment makes it easy for even a beginner shoot well and modern compounds have become the Spit XVI of archery to me.

Modern bows are amazing!  To say anyone can shoot them accurately would be absolutely wrong.  I have been getting to itch to buy a recurve and do some traditional shooting lately though.

it is all wrong: 7 comes between 6 and 8. 11 should be where 7 is now.

I knew someone would be smart enough to put numbers in order! I just wish it was me  :cry  Good counting!  :rock
Title: Re: Archers of Aces High.
Post by: druski85 on January 28, 2009, 10:27:45 AM
Modern bows are amazing!  To say anyone can shoot them accurately would be absolutely wrong.  I have been getting to itch to buy a recurve and do some traditional shooting lately though.

I learned on a recurve, and have always shot one.  I really don't like the look or the feel of compound bows, particuarly ones with complex sights.  (aim down that arrow, sucka)  The more accessories/gadgets they have, the less it feels like archery, in my mind.

May be the same reason I avoid spit16's, unless the field is vulched :) 
Title: Re: Archers of Aces High.
Post by: CAP1 on January 28, 2009, 10:34:48 AM
These are glue on Vanes.  Flex Fletch.  I have yet to shoot them, or ever use them.  I usually shoot blazers but thought I would give these a shot, lots of things being said about them.  I'll let you know.
k, i got ya.....when i first looked at them, they looked like something a buddy of mine is going to try. he showed me a type that has a sleeve, with the vanes attached, that you put on the arrow, and i think you heatshrink them on.
Title: Re: Archers of Aces High.
Post by: Reschke on January 28, 2009, 10:37:46 AM
Learned on a re curve bow very early around 5 or 6. Then I shot that until I was about 10 and my dad bought me an old Browning compound bow with a 40lb draw weight...that was a sucker to learn how to shoot on for me at 10. When I turned 18 I bought a Hoyt and had it tuned up to about 75lb draw weight and shot it all the time. I lost it on a bet at a 3D shoot one time and then bought a PSE and used it for several years. I am now shooting an older Mathews that my dad let me "borrow" since he quit bow hunting and I am saving up for a Mathews Reezen 6.5 or 7.0 http://mathewsinc.com/mathews-bows-11240-44-ViewProduct-1472-324.asp depending on what they have when I go to buy my next one.

I think I have found my favorite bows though with these new Mathews with the dampeners and such. I love the way they shoot in the field when I am hunting and they are super easy to tune up or down depending on what I am wanting to do. I am going to buy my oldest son a bow this spring and hopefully he will be ready for bow season in October so we can get a few more deer into the freezer.
Title: Re: Archers of Aces High.
Post by: ODBAL on January 28, 2009, 11:24:56 AM
Learned on a re curve bow very early around 5 or 6. Then I shot that until I was about 10 and my dad bought me an old Browning compound bow with a 40lb draw weight...that was a sucker to learn how to shoot on for me at 10. When I turned 18 I bought a Hoyt and had it tuned up to about 75lb draw weight and shot it all the time. I lost it on a bet at a 3D shoot one time and then bought a PSE and used it for several years. I am now shooting an older Mathews that my dad let me "borrow" since he quit bow hunting and I am saving up for a Mathews Reezen 6.5 or 7.0 http://mathewsinc.com/mathews-bows-11240-44-ViewProduct-1472-324.asp depending on what they have when I go to buy my next one.

I think I have found my favorite bows though with these new Mathews with the dampeners and such. I love the way they shoot in the field when I am hunting and they are super easy to tune up or down depending on what I am wanting to do. I am going to buy my oldest son a bow this spring and hopefully he will be ready for bow season in October so we can get a few more deer into the freezer.


I learned on a recurve as well.  My uncle got me my first bow, he lived up in a Canyon and I would spend my summers there wandering up and down the canyon with my trusty recurve and his old dog Nellie.  Those were the good old days and I'm sure the older I get the better I was with that little bow.  I did win a Gold Medal in a 3D shoot when I was 13 shooting that recurve against 15 year olds.  They all had compounds and sights and I was shooting barebow... The highlight of my Archery Career and my "Al Bundy" moment to be sure.

My dad shoots a Mathews DXT.  It is a nice bow.  I am a Hoyt guy myself and I would say do yourself a favor and at least shoot the Alpha Max 32 and/or Alpha Max 35 before you make up your mind.  The Alpha's are getting great feedback and are being bought by a lot of people who have shot other brands their whole lives.  Just a suggestion.  Good luck whatever you choose!
Title: Re: Archers of Aces High.
Post by: Reschke on January 28, 2009, 11:35:08 AM
I will have to go check one of those out at my favorite bow shop. I have just been sold on this Mathews that my dad gave me and I really like the feel of it.
Title: Re: Archers of Aces High.
Post by: ODBAL on January 28, 2009, 12:40:49 PM
To be honest, I shot the Reezen and did not think it measured up the the DXT.  I didn't like anything about the draw cycle.  It is fast to be sure though.  I was surprised to see how many life long Matthews guys were switching to the Hoyt Alphamax.
Title: Re: Archers of Aces High.
Post by: Saxman on January 28, 2009, 12:48:08 PM
(http://www.welchmanlongbows.com/EnglishLongbowHiRes.jpg)

A REAL man's bow.
Title: Reschke
Post by: ODBAL on January 28, 2009, 12:49:29 PM
I will have to go check one of those out at my favorite bow shop. I have just been sold on this Mathews that my dad gave me and I really like the feel of it.

Here is the latest thread on archery talk concering the Reezen vs. Alphamax.   http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showthread.php?t=834592  (http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showthread.php?t=834592)  If you browse through the general forums you will find a million opinions on both.
Title: Re: Archers of Aces High.
Post by: ODBAL on January 28, 2009, 12:53:26 PM
(http://www.welchmanlongbows.com/EnglishLongbowHiRes.jpg)

A REAL man's bow.

And I suppose you ride a horse to work everyday, don't own a microwave oven (Cause you cook all your meals over an open flame), and play the harmonica by the fire when your done for entertainment? Like a "real man" would? 

All kidding aside, Longbow's and recurves are great fun, nothing wrong with embracing technology though.  The falicy is that ANYONE can shoot a compound bow and hit the target EVERY time.  Just not true.  Plus it is fun to send an arrow downrange at 320fps towards that foam deer.
Title: Re: Archers of Aces High.
Post by: Saxman on January 28, 2009, 01:18:46 PM
And I suppose you ride a horse to work everyday, don't own a microwave oven (Cause you cook all your meals over an open flame), and play the harmonica by the fire when your done for entertainment? Like a "real man" would? 


I live close enough I COULD ride a horse, but I don't think the landlord would approve of the open flame in or anywhere NEAR my apartment. And the harmonica wasn't invented yet. :p
Title: Re: Archers of Aces High.
Post by: ODBAL on January 28, 2009, 01:55:07 PM
Sax, you really shoot a longbow?
Title: Re: Archers of Aces High.
Post by: Saxman on January 28, 2009, 02:09:58 PM
The only one I shoot right now is a light 35lb draw one I use for LARPing. I'd LOVE to get a 50-60lb bow (which IIRC is pretty average, I have absoltuely NO hope of pulling one of the big 100-120lb bows, lol!) for target shooting but I don't have the time (or space. Or money).
Title: Re: Archers of Aces High.
Post by: Reschke on January 28, 2009, 03:18:47 PM
I do love shooting a well made longbow. I wish I knew how to make them. Not only how to make them but how to make a good quality long bow.
Title: Re: Archers of Aces High.
Post by: Saxman on January 28, 2009, 03:26:12 PM
The one I have is a true longbow, albeit a MUCH lower draw weight. It's oak, not yew, but otherwise the make is the same as the traditional bows.
Title: Re: Archers of Aces High.
Post by: ODBAL on January 28, 2009, 04:25:18 PM
I do love shooting a well made longbow. I wish I knew how to make them. Not only how to make them but how to make a good quality long bow.

Take a look here Reschke.  Actually looks like it would be a fun project.

 http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showthread.php?p=7594312&posted=1#post7594312  (http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showthread.php?p=7594312&posted=1#post7594312)
Title: Re: Archers of Aces High.
Post by: F6Fraven on January 28, 2009, 05:35:20 PM
My brother makes longbows, usually in the 50-60 pound range. We usually just buy some cheap red oak, back it, plane it, and put in the minor details. He's made some really nice Osage Orange bows in the 70 pound range.
   I've been shooting traditional longbows for about 5 years, i just recently switched to a compound. I'll tell you though, there's nothing like pulling the trigger of a mechanical release and putting 10 arrows within an inch of each other.
Title: Re: Archers of Aces High.
Post by: Chalenge on January 28, 2009, 05:45:08 PM
My brother makes longbows, usually in the 50-60 pound range. We usually just buy some cheap red oak, back it, plane it, and put in the minor details. He's made some really nice Osage Orange bows in the 70 pound range.
   I've been shooting traditional longbows for about 5 years, i just recently switched to a compound. I'll tell you though, there's nothing like pulling the trigger of a mechanical release and putting 10 arrows within an inch of each other.

This is exactly what I was talking about. The feeling of using a long bow or recurve on a Bighorn trophy beats a 1" group any day in my book.
Title: Re: Archers of Aces High.
Post by: ODBAL on January 28, 2009, 05:55:16 PM
This is exactly what I was talking about. The feeling of using a long bow or recurve on a Bighorn trophy beats a 1" group any day in my book.

To each his own I guess.  Like I said I have been wanting to get a recurve and some "sticks" lately, would be fun to do some barebow shooting.  A friend of mine last year bought himself a high dollar recurve (Black Widow) and was so excited to hunt Elk with it.  He used it the whole hunt and couldnt get closer than 60 yards to an Elk.  He takes his compound out the last day of the hunt and bags a huge 6 Point Bull with his compound at about 10 yards.  :cry
Title: Re: Archers of Aces High.
Post by: Wolf14 on January 28, 2009, 06:44:37 PM
GJ dude those rock.

 :aok
Title: Re: Archers of Aces High.
Post by: DREDIOCK on January 28, 2009, 08:09:10 PM


the flames do look awesome :aok

Bet the deer love em too!
Its what makes em stand still long enough for you to get the shot

"Wow! Look at that coming this way! That looks sooo Coo..."(TWAP!) :thud:

LOL
Title: Re: Archers of Aces High.
Post by: Reschke on January 29, 2009, 08:54:54 AM
Yep that is some cool stuff there. Thanks for the links.