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Help and Support Forums => Technical Support => Topic started by: P1Tiger on February 04, 2009, 12:00:50 AM
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While Im ingame its been freezing and I have to then manually shut down my pc The first time it happened
it shut down my anti virus While i was in security settings I saw alot of the activeX were disabled.
Would this be part of the problem
If not then explain what it is
Also please explain what activeX is
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If I remember right, your computer is on the weak side. Flight sim games work the CPU very hard for all of the computation. Yours may be overheating and shutting down. Making sure you have the computer running as clean as you can will help. You don't need your antivirus running while playing the game. Hitting cntrl, alt, and delete at the same time on your keyboard will will open a window. Click on the processes tab at the top, then look in the lower corner. It will tell you how many processes you have running. The lower the number, the better, in the 20's is what you SHOULD be able to get it down too. Too many things running at the same time spreads the CPU out too much.
Activex is a set of programs that are in your browsers and other Microsoft programs. They are little programs that windows calls on to do different things. Some can be used maliciously so that is why its recommended to have them turned off, for better security.
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ok my computer isnt that week when it comes to AH, just my internet, my PC runs fine, and i am about to purchase 2G of RAM as soon as i fined a cheap price, its the fact the my AVG Security isnt working, but ill try AH again today and see if it works
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How much do you have running in the background while you play? That's what The Fugitive is getting at. The stuff running along with AH is using part of your 1GB of memory.
Shut off stuff you don't need. Printer spools waste a bunch of processing power that can be better used on Ace High.
I used to alt tab out of AH and ctrl/alt/delete and shut down all the crap going on in the background. It helps. Try FS Autostart. (google it, it's free). You set up an AH profile with it. Instead of starting AH, you start FS Autostart and it shuts down all the superfluous junk you've told it to and starts AH. Exit AH and it will reboot everything back up automagically.
I've gone from 44 processes running to 12 with FS Autostart.
wrongway
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This is what you posted for your computer....
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System Information
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Time of this report: 1/10/2009, 17:06:56
Machine name: 41RAMEY
Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.080814-1233)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Dell Computer Corporation
System Model: Dimension 2400
BIOS: Phoenix ROM BIOS PLUS Version 1.10 A05
Processor: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.40GHz
Memory: 254MB RAM
Page File: 431MB used, 190MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode
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Display Devices
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Card name: Intel(R) 82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV Graphics Controller
Manufacturer: Intel Corporation
Chip type: Intel(R) 82845G Graphics Controller
DAC type: Internal
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2562&SUBSYS_01601028&REV_01
Display Memory: 64.0 MB
Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (70Hz)
Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Thats what I mean by weak. I'm not picking on you, what you have is what you have. To make it work you will need to turn down the "eye candy" in the game, as well as getting your computer to run as clean and lean as you can. You barely have enough processes speed, not enough ram, and video that is trying to us virtual memory to get by. The less things you try to stuff through it the better it will run.
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This is what you posted for your computer....
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System Information
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Time of this report: 1/10/2009, 17:06:56
Machine name: 41RAMEY
Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.080814-1233)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Dell Computer Corporation
System Model: Dimension 2400
BIOS: Phoenix ROM BIOS PLUS Version 1.10 A05
Processor: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.40GHz
Memory: 254MB RAM
Page File: 431MB used, 190MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode
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Display Devices
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Card name: Intel(R) 82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV Graphics Controller
Manufacturer: Intel Corporation
Chip type: Intel(R) 82845G Graphics Controller
DAC type: Internal
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2562&SUBSYS_01601028&REV_01
Display Memory: 64.0 MB
Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (70Hz)
Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Thats what I mean by weak. I'm not picking on you, what you have is what you have. To make it work you will need to turn down the "eye candy" in the game, as well as getting your computer to run as clean and lean as you can. You barely have enough processes speed, not enough ram, and video that is trying to us virtual memory to get by. The less things you try to stuff through it the better it will run.
i know, good post to point out what you mean :aok but im going from 254 mb to 2G in a few days, and will the graphics card slow me down?
and i dont know what process' are good and bad, but i dont have anything running out of AH anymore, maybe skype once and awile, with no calls
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Onboard video chips, such as the Intel video chip, are not meant to run games like ours. Even Intel's own WEB site will tell you that. It is a $2 video chip. It does not have its own video RAM. It steals RAM from the main computer system RAM.
It can run the game, somewhat, but there will be performance issues and some things which simply will not display right. You will need to run everything in the game at bare minimums and you must have a very clean machine in terms of background processes in order to get the most performance you can from the system.
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Onboard video chips, such as the Intel video chip, are not meant to run games like ours. Even Intel's own WEB site will tell you that. It is a $2 video chip. It does not have its own video RAM. It steals RAM from the main computer system RAM.
It can run the game, somewhat, but there will be performance issues and some things which simply will not display right. You will need to run everything in the game at bare minimums and you must have a very clean machine in terms of background processes in order to get the most performance you can from the system.
ok tell me if any of these would be best for me please
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2000380048%204025&name=%2425%20-%20%2450 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2000380048%204025&name=%2425%20-%20%2450)
and this is the ram im getting
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227210 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227210)
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I cannot make any recommendations on hardware. It is best to ask that question in the "Hardware and Software" forum.
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Depending on if you have PCIe x16 or not, this should be a good card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814141065
Great choice on memory.
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Listen to Denholm,
You need to make sure you have minimum processes running with your system. The Ram is a nice addition and the video card should be OK. You cannot get too good of a video card hence there will be what they call "bottlenecking". The CPU cannot keep up with the video card. He has you on the right track but do not expect the upgrades to run aces high on highest video settings. You will probably have to run your textures on 256 and play around with your anti-alias for best quality/performance. I would go for performance over quality.
Death
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Depending on if you have PCIe x16 or not, this should be a good card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814141065
Great choice on memory.
i dont know if i have a PCIe x16 or not
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Your computer is very old. There isn't much point in spending anymore money on it at this point. Save your money and get a cheap barebones computer (don't forget the graphics card.) You are already shopping on the right site. You can spend $400 and get a computer that will run the game for the next couple of years or spend $100 to keep yours running for the next couple of months. Its your choice.
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If you don't know what kind of slots are on your board, do not attempt to upgrade. Your computer is very old so the parts have become legacy so they will be more expensive and hard to find. You have to know exactly what type of RAM your computer holds before upgrading (PC ###??) and you need to know exactly what type of graphics slot you have. You also need to know the maximum amount of RAM your motherboard can hold. Be careful you don't waste your money.
FYI - I work with that model of computer at work (IT is my life.) Dell did not make that series easy to upgrade.
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i dont know if i have a PCIe x16 or not
I wouldn't spend the time and money to upgrade your computer either. You might want to get a hold of Tildeath (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=15605). He builds them for a living, and might be able to hook you up with something decent.
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I just bought all the parts I need to upgrade my computer. 3.0 GHz quad-core AMD, 4 GB RAM, 10000 RPM HD, and two 9800 GT's for all under $1000. That computer is far more than I should ever need with this game and yet I can build it for under a grand. You can probably build an entirely new computer for much cheaper than that.
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Your computer is very old. There isn't much point in spending anymore money on it at this point. Save your money and get a cheap barebones computer (don't forget the graphics card.) You are already shopping on the right site. You can spend $400 and get a computer that will run the game for the next couple of years or spend $100 to keep yours running for the next couple of months. Its your choice.
its just 3 years old... i know what type of ram i have to have, and its a good type of brand and quality, i just a video card, and then ill have a good deal going.
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These are the specs on your machine:
Dell™ Dimension™ 2400 Series
Microprocessor
Microprocessor type
Intel® Pentium® 4 that runs at 2.2 or 2.4 GHz internally and 400 MHz externally, or 2.266, 2.4, 2.53, 2.66, 2.8, or 3.06 GHz internally and 533 MHz externally.
Intel Celeron® that runs at 2.0, 2.2, 2.3, 2.4, 2.5, 2.6, or 2.7 GHz internally and 400 MHz externally.
L1 cache
8 KB first-level (Pentium 4 and Celeron).
L2 cache
256- or 512-KB (displayed in the system setup program) pipelined-burst, eight-way set associative, write-back SRAM (Pentium 4);
128-KB SRAM that resides in the processor's core. The L2 cache runs at the processor's internal clock speed (Celeron).
System Information
System chip set
Intel 845GV
DMA channels
eight
Interrupt levels
24 APIC mode
System BIOS chip
4 MB (512 KB)
System clock
400- or 533-MHz data rate
Expansion Bus
Bus types
PCI
Bus speed
PCI: 33 MHz
PCI connectors
three
PCI connector size
120 pins
PCI connector data width
(maximum)
32 bits
Memory
Architecture
DDR SDRAM
Memory connectors
two
Memory capacities
128-, 256-, or 512-MB
Minimum memory
128 MB shared DDR SDRAM
NOTE: Between 32 and 64 MB of system memory may be allocated to support graphics, depending on system memory size and other factors.
Maximum memory
1 GB
Memory type
PC2100 (266-MHz) or PC2700 (333-MHz) DDR SDRAM (non-ECC)
Drives
Externally accessible
two 5.25-inch bays
one 3.5-inch bay
Internally accessible
one bay for 1-inch–high IDE hard drive
Ports and Connectors
Externally accessible:
Serial
9-pin connector; 16550C-compatible
Parallel
25-hole connector (bidirectional)
Video
15-hole connector
Keyboard
6-pin mini-DIN connector
Mouse
6-pin mini-DIN connector
USB
two front-panel and four back-panel USB 2.0–compliant connectors
Network
RJ-45 connector
Audio
three back miniature connectors for line-in, line-out, and microphone
Headphone
one front miniature connector for line-out
Internally accessible:
Primary IDE channel
40-pin connector on PCI local bus
Secondary IDE channel
40-pin connector on PCI local bus
Floppy drive (optional)
34-pin connector
Video
Video controller
integrated Intel 3D Extreme Graphics
Audio
Audio controller
integrated audio
Network
Network controller
integrated 10/100 Ethernet
Controls and Lights
Power control
push button
Front-panel power light
solid green for power-on state; blinking green for standby state
Hard-drive access light
green
Power
DC power supply:
Wattage
200 W or 250 W
Heat dissipation
682 or 853 BTU (fully-loaded computer without monitor)
Voltage (see your Owner's Manual for
important voltage setting information)
100 to 120 V at 60 Hz; 200 to 240 V at 50 Hz
Backup battery
3-V CR2032 coin cell
Physical
Height x Width x Depth
36.8 x 18.4 x 42.6 cm
(14.5 x 7.25 x 16.75 inches)
Weight
10.4 kg (23 lb)
Environmental
Temperature:
Operating
10º to 35ºC (50º to 95ºF)
NOTE: At 35°C (95°F), the maximum operating altitude is 914 m (3000 ft).
Storage
–40º to 65ºC (–40º to 149ºF)
Relative humidity
20% to 80% (noncondensing)
Maximum vibration:
Operating
0.25 G at 3 to 200 Hz
Storage
2.20 Grms at 10 to 500 Hz
Maximum shock:
Nonoperating (half-sine pulse)
105 G, 2 ms
Nonoperating (faired-square wave)
32 G with a velocity change of 596.9 cm/sec
(235 inches/sec)
Altitude:
Operating
–15.2 to 3048 m (–50 to 10,000 ft)
NOTE: At 35°C (95°F), the maximum operating altitude is 914 m (3000 ft).
Storage
–15.2 to 10,670 m (–50 to 35,000 ft)
First of all, you can't even put 2 Gb of RAM into it. It will only accept 2 512 Mb chips and those have to be PC2100 (266-MHz) or PC2700 (333-MHz) SDRAM. You just can't buy 2 Gb. So buy 2x 512 for a total of 1 Gb but get the right stuff. Here's a list of what's available to you:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=Property&Subcategory=147&Description=&Type=&N=2010170147&srchInDesc=&MinPrice=&MaxPrice=&OEMMark=0&PropertyCodeValue=523%3A8476&PropertyCodeValue=524%3A7861&PropertyCodeValue=524%3A7860
Yes, one of those PCI video cards you selected should work but be very careful which one you choose as you only have a 200-250 watt power supply.
One of these will likely be your best bet but you'll have to make sure that your power supply is the 250 watt version, not the 200 watt version (there should be a sticker on the power supply itself):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2000380048%204025%201069609642%201068309611&bop=And&CompareItemList=N82E16814130289%2CN82E16814187041%2CN82E16814133233
If you've got the 200W version then you'll need to settle for one of these:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2000380048%204025%201069609642%201068309609&bop=And&CompareItemList=N82E16814139151%2CN82E16814102447%2CN82E16814139151R
Either way, don't expect wonders. As others have mentioned, the technology in your sytem is old, even if the system itself isn't. You're still going to have to turn down graphic settings in game, run lower texture sizes and keep background processes to an absolute minimum but, you will see a slight performance gain and you're only going to be in for about $50.
BTW, don't even think about upgrading the power supply to run a better card. At that point you're just throwing money away because that first list of cards I posted is as good as you can go with this system. At that point it's time to save the money for a new system. You can get one built that will run AH just fine for around $500 and it will absolutely kill what you have now.
Good luck.
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These are the specs on your machine:
Dell™ Dimension™ 2400 Series
Microprocessor
Microprocessor type
Intel® Pentium® 4 that runs at 2.2 or 2.4 GHz internally and 400 MHz externally, or 2.266, 2.4, 2.53, 2.66, 2.8, or 3.06 GHz internally and 533 MHz externally.
Intel Celeron® that runs at 2.0, 2.2, 2.3, 2.4, 2.5, 2.6, or 2.7 GHz internally and 400 MHz externally.
L1 cache
8 KB first-level (Pentium 4 and Celeron).
L2 cache
256- or 512-KB (displayed in the system setup program) pipelined-burst, eight-way set associative, write-back SRAM (Pentium 4);
128-KB SRAM that resides in the processor's core. The L2 cache runs at the processor's internal clock speed (Celeron).
System Information
System chip set
Intel 845GV
DMA channels
eight
Interrupt levels
24 APIC mode
System BIOS chip
4 MB (512 KB)
System clock
400- or 533-MHz data rate
Expansion Bus
Bus types
PCI
Bus speed
PCI: 33 MHz
PCI connectors
three
PCI connector size
120 pins
PCI connector data width
(maximum)
32 bits
Memory
Architecture
DDR SDRAM
Memory connectors
two
Memory capacities
128-, 256-, or 512-MB
Minimum memory
128 MB shared DDR SDRAM
NOTE: Between 32 and 64 MB of system memory may be allocated to support graphics, depending on system memory size and other factors.
Maximum memory
1 GB
Memory type
PC2100 (266-MHz) or PC2700 (333-MHz) DDR SDRAM (non-ECC)
Drives
Externally accessible
two 5.25-inch bays
one 3.5-inch bay
Internally accessible
one bay for 1-inch–high IDE hard drive
Ports and Connectors
Externally accessible:
Serial
9-pin connector; 16550C-compatible
Parallel
25-hole connector (bidirectional)
Video
15-hole connector
Keyboard
6-pin mini-DIN connector
Mouse
6-pin mini-DIN connector
USB
two front-panel and four back-panel USB 2.0–compliant connectors
Network
RJ-45 connector
Audio
three back miniature connectors for line-in, line-out, and microphone
Headphone
one front miniature connector for line-out
Internally accessible:
Primary IDE channel
40-pin connector on PCI local bus
Secondary IDE channel
40-pin connector on PCI local bus
Floppy drive (optional)
34-pin connector
Video
Video controller
integrated Intel 3D Extreme Graphics
Audio
Audio controller
integrated audio
Network
Network controller
integrated 10/100 Ethernet
Controls and Lights
Power control
push button
Front-panel power light
solid green for power-on state; blinking green for standby state
Hard-drive access light
green
Power
DC power supply:
Wattage
200 W or 250 W
Heat dissipation
682 or 853 BTU (fully-loaded computer without monitor)
Voltage (see your Owner's Manual for
important voltage setting information)
100 to 120 V at 60 Hz; 200 to 240 V at 50 Hz
Backup battery
3-V CR2032 coin cell
Physical
Height x Width x Depth
36.8 x 18.4 x 42.6 cm
(14.5 x 7.25 x 16.75 inches)
Weight
10.4 kg (23 lb)
Environmental
Temperature:
Operating
10º to 35ºC (50º to 95ºF)
NOTE: At 35°C (95°F), the maximum operating altitude is 914 m (3000 ft).
Storage
–40º to 65ºC (–40º to 149ºF)
Relative humidity
20% to 80% (noncondensing)
Maximum vibration:
Operating
0.25 G at 3 to 200 Hz
Storage
2.20 Grms at 10 to 500 Hz
Maximum shock:
Nonoperating (half-sine pulse)
105 G, 2 ms
Nonoperating (faired-square wave)
32 G with a velocity change of 596.9 cm/sec
(235 inches/sec)
Altitude:
Operating
–15.2 to 3048 m (–50 to 10,000 ft)
NOTE: At 35°C (95°F), the maximum operating altitude is 914 m (3000 ft).
Storage
–15.2 to 10,670 m (–50 to 35,000 ft)
First of all, you can't even put 2 Gb of RAM into it. It will only accept 2 512 Mb chips and those have to be PC2100 (266-MHz) or PC2700 (333-MHz) SDRAM. You just can't buy 2 Gb. So buy 2x 512 for a total of 1 Gb but get the right stuff. Here's a list of what's available to you:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=Property&Subcategory=147&Description=&Type=&N=2010170147&srchInDesc=&MinPrice=&MaxPrice=&OEMMark=0&PropertyCodeValue=523%3A8476&PropertyCodeValue=524%3A7861&PropertyCodeValue=524%3A7860
Yes, one of those PCI video cards you selected should work but be very careful which one you choose as you only have a 200-250 watt power supply. One of these will likely be your best bet but you'll have to make sure that your power supply is the 250 watt version, not the 200 watt version (there should be a sticker on the power supply itself):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2000380048%204025%201069609642%201068309611&bop=And&CompareItemList=N82E16814130289%2CN82E16814187041%2CN82E16814133233
If you've got the 200W version then you'll need to settle for one of these:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2000380048%204025%201069609642%201068309609&bop=And&CompareItemList=N82E16814139151%2CN82E16814102447%2CN82E16814139151R
Either way, don't expect wonders. As others have mentioned, the technology in your sytem is old, even if the system itself isn't. You're still going to have to turn down graphic settings in game, run lower texture sizes and keep background processes to an absolute minimum but, you will see a slight performance gain and you're only going to be in for about $50.
BTW, don't even think about upgrading the power supply to run a better card. At that point you're just throwing money away because that first list of cards I posted is as good as you can go with this system. At that point it's time to save the money for a new system. You can get one built that will run AH just fine for around $500 and it will absolutely kill what you have now.
Good luck.
before i read the rest of this, most of it is very wrong.
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before i read the rest of this, most of it is very wrong.
Funny but it matched exactly to the DXDiag posted here from your machine.
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Funny but it matched exactly to the DXDiag posted here from your machine.
then dell must have tested further into my pc, the memory for ex. i can have 2G's if i wanted to, (PC3200) id love to point out more but i gotta go (I talked to dell)