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Title: new water and terain
Post by: Beefcake on February 04, 2009, 04:14:22 PM: Look at the pretty water on the front page! Man I can't wait to crash into that!

(http://www2.hitechcreations.com/news/images/terrtest/wss.jpg)
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: trax1 on February 04, 2009, 04:15:40 PM: Yeah it looks nice. :aok
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: Motherland on February 04, 2009, 04:23:23 PM: (http://www2.hitechcreations.com/news/images/terrtest/wss.jpg)

WTFG HTC!
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: Bosco123 on February 04, 2009, 04:25:10 PM: Absolutely gorgeous HT. Great job :aok :salute
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: Motherland on February 04, 2009, 04:26:13 PM: Is anyone else having trouble using the 'moving' samples? the WMV doesn't show any motion and the Quicktimes are making my browser freeze up.
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: BigR on February 04, 2009, 04:28:43 PM: Quote from: Motherland on February 04, 2009, 04:26:13 PM
Is anyone else having trouble using the 'moving' samples? the WMV doesn't show any motion and the Quicktimes are making my browser freeze up.

I was able to get the mid size mpg to work by right clicking on the link and saving it to my desktop. I then opened it with WMP, and it worked.
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: Murdr on February 04, 2009, 04:29:15 PM: Worked fine for me, but I use GOM as my default player.
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: Masherbrum on February 04, 2009, 04:30:41 PM: nice.
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: Banshee7 on February 04, 2009, 04:31:43 PM: Goodbye everyone...I'm sure this will be too much for my poor computer :cry
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: zoozoo on February 04, 2009, 04:35:36 PM: I just had a heart attack and peed my pants and scqueakd at the same time :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O : :O :O : :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :OO :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :OO :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O : : : :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :OO :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :OO :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :OO :O :O :O :O :O :O :O : :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :OO :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O:O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O:O
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: moot on February 04, 2009, 04:38:57 PM: Screenshot looks great. :D Can't get the video to work, though. I'm using just this codec pack (http://www.cccp-project.net/), never had had problems yet.
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: BiPoLaR on February 04, 2009, 04:42:14 PM: by the looks of that. i wont ever be back. too much for my comp.
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: Scotch on February 04, 2009, 04:44:11 PM: Quote from: Banshee7 on February 04, 2009, 04:31:43 PM
Goodbye everyone...I'm sure this will be too much for my poor computer :cry

Same :cry
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: Skuzzy on February 04, 2009, 04:45:46 PM: The large AVI is 'uncompressed RGB'. It should play on anything as there is no real codec. I removed the WMV as the quality was just too poor. The MPEG is plain ole MPEG-2.

The only problem there might be is if the data file is being treated as ASCII, that could cause some problems.
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: Gianlupo on February 04, 2009, 04:47:33 PM: Great work, HTC. :aok

Even if that means I'll have to lower detail to minimum.... :cry
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: Murdr on February 04, 2009, 04:47:43 PM: Quote from: Scotch on February 04, 2009, 04:44:11 PM
Same :cry
I'm already on the buble for playable frame rates on many terrains myself :(
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: smokey23 on February 04, 2009, 04:48:02 PM: I can feel my new build commin on :rock
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: oakranger on February 04, 2009, 04:48:28 PM: Skuzzy,

How will this effect the graphic cards on our computer?
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: moot on February 04, 2009, 04:49:00 PM: Might be an option in gfx preferences, don't panic yet.
The video doesn't work with WMP but does with VLC, on my end.

Would be very cool if we also got some spray for planes low enough over the water :) A formation right on the water would look great then..
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: 1701E on February 04, 2009, 04:49:50 PM: Very nice looking. :aok

Also, just looking at this, it appears to not have too much of a hit on hardware.
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: Motherland on February 04, 2009, 04:50:17 PM: Quote from: Skuzzy on February 04, 2009, 04:45:46 PM
The large AVI is 'uncompressed RGB'. It should play on anything as there is no real codec. I removed the WMV as the quality was just too poor. The MPEG is plain ole MPEG-2.

The only problem there might be is if the data file is being treated as ASCII, that could cause some problems.
Interesting.
The MPEG works, but when I try to open the AVI with WMP it says 'error downloading codec'.

However... I think I've seen enough with the MPEG. Beautiful work, HTC.

Out of curiosity, were the clouds changed at all?
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: Makarov9 on February 04, 2009, 04:51:51 PM: Gotta update them VIC-20's sooner or later... :)
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: AKDogg on February 04, 2009, 04:54:08 PM: Now that I see we have flowing water, does that mean it now has depth to it? ex., planes now sink, pt boat sinks if to many holes (hehehe) etc.. Possible future for subs?
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: BaldEagl on February 04, 2009, 04:54:45 PM: OMG. Absolutely gorgeous!

Will there be like dead fish washing up onshore and stuff?
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: MORAY37 on February 04, 2009, 04:55:56 PM: Looks like you used a similar engine as the Half-life 2 development team. Water looks and acts like it did in that game.
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: Skuzzy on February 04, 2009, 04:56:11 PM: The best way to view the AVI file is to save the video to your computer, right click it and select "Play" or "Play with Media Player".

As there is no real codec involved, I think trying to stream it is causing the problem.

MORAY37, the only engine we use is what is developed in house.

oakranger, I have no idea, but I would not panic either.
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: oakranger on February 04, 2009, 04:59:15 PM: CC, sir. Looks great. Keep up the work. :salute
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: RumbleB on February 04, 2009, 04:59:50 PM: I'm surprised people here aren't using VLC.
Plays it just fine, should be your standard video player for anything. Don't need to download any codec packs with VLC.

http://www.videolan.org/
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: Skuzzy on February 04, 2009, 05:01:34 PM: Quote from: oakranger on February 04, 2009, 04:59:15 PM
CC, sir. Looks great. Keep up the work. :salute

I did not have anything to do with it. I just make things appear on the WEB page. The real work is all done by everyone else here.
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: oakranger on February 04, 2009, 05:03:05 PM: Quote from: Skuzzy on February 04, 2009, 05:01:34 PM
I did not have anything to do with it. I just make things appear on the WEB page. The real work is all done by everyone else here.

Your part of the team the way i see it. Please pass the word.
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: Getback on February 04, 2009, 05:13:16 PM: I need to get my fishing line and a bass boat right now. Maybe I should put that in the wish list.
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: Saxman on February 04, 2009, 05:17:22 PM: :eek: :O :eek: :O :eek: :O :eek:
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: B4Buster on February 04, 2009, 05:20:54 PM: I think it looks great. Will the new terrain effect frame rates at all?
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: RumbleB on February 04, 2009, 05:21:44 PM: Yea im really glad and excited that theyre working on this kind of stuff now. :rock
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: Wmaker on February 04, 2009, 05:24:49 PM: Looks very very nice!! With Brewster on the works this is shaping up to be the dream come true update. :)

I just think I have to tinker a bit with my video card to get everything out of it.
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: RipChord929 on February 04, 2009, 05:36:58 PM: Hmmm, very pretty... It played easily enough on my new
and old game machines..

The water laps sweetly on the shore, how serene...
But will the new terrain have an actual effect
on vehicles, etc? Or, is it just superfluous eye candy?

Now that we have flowing water, will we get maps with rivers,
streams, creeks, swamps, and mud? Some things that the
real world has a'plenty..

Its pretty, and I like it... Not meaning to be a killjoy, but I like
MEAT with my meals, and tread on my tires, so to speak!

I'm hoping so!!

RC
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: SgtPappy on February 04, 2009, 05:39:44 PM: Perhaps there's going to be an option to turn animation off or something if it ends up destroying comp frame rates.

Many of my applications with animations have that option.
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: mechanic on February 04, 2009, 05:40:42 PM: Terrible! Outrageous! It's a travesty! Why cant i play on this terrain right now??! ME! ME! ME! NOW! I WANT! :t
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: 1Boner on February 04, 2009, 06:01:48 PM: I'm goin swimmin!! :cool:

MARCO!!
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: Mustaine on February 04, 2009, 06:03:20 PM: <S> HTC staff, that looks incredible!

keep up the great work!
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: Saxman on February 04, 2009, 06:03:34 PM: I just looked again and saw the scenery is reflecting in the surface. What happens if a plane is flying on the deck? :eek:
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: Kermit de frog on February 04, 2009, 06:11:04 PM: Quote from: mechanic on February 04, 2009, 05:40:42 PM
Terrible! Outrageous! It's a travesty! Why cant i play on this terrain right now??! ME! ME! ME! NOW! I WANT! :t

Amen!

I think their work looks great!

There is no reason to panic.
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: Animl on February 04, 2009, 06:12:23 PM: Quote from: mechanic on February 04, 2009, 05:40:42 PM
Terrible! Outrageous! It's a travesty! Why cant i play on this terrain right now??! ME! ME! ME! NOW! I WANT! :t

Because I called "shotgun".

Animl
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: BnZs on February 04, 2009, 06:18:15 PM: I'm guessing users will be able to scale the water effects to suit their machine.

I for one, would like to thank HTC for this. It will undoubtedly alleviate/eliminate the "plane becoming invisible against water" problems.
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: Wingnutt on February 04, 2009, 06:20:11 PM: Hopefully this will have a positive impact on the issue of dark colored planes being super hard to see against water/trees that has been brought up.

EDIT: BNZ beat me by like 5 seconds :furious
looks astonishing..

so how long befo... yea 2 weeks.. shaddap.
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: StokesAk on February 04, 2009, 06:22:43 PM: Wow.......................... ............... Wtg HTC You Gameing Dweebs. :rock :rock :rock :rock :rock :rock :rock :rock
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: mechanic on February 04, 2009, 06:25:57 PM: damn. I knew i should have called shotgun, See Kermit, there is plently of reason to panic!
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: Kazaa on February 04, 2009, 06:31:04 PM: Nice to see the terrain textures revamped, the water looks very real life. :aok
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: Beefcake on February 04, 2009, 06:31:53 PM: Now the next question is will we see reflections? How about oil spills from planes and sinking boats? Blood from dismem.....ok thats a bit much.
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: Motherland on February 04, 2009, 06:38:16 PM: I'm curious as how wakes will be generated now, and if in the new terrain system if a wake will be formed or if dust will be kicked up by aircraft flying at low level.

That would be awesome :)
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: Anaxogoras on February 04, 2009, 06:39:28 PM: Quote from: Skuzzy on February 04, 2009, 04:56:11 PM
The best way to view the AVI file is to save the video to your computer, right click it and select "Play" or "Play with Media Player".

Did that. It still won't play.
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: Kazaa on February 04, 2009, 06:44:50 PM: Reflections, wow now that's a massive leap forward in graphics, I would like to see more then the 3 polygon mountains though.
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: waystin2 on February 04, 2009, 06:46:02 PM: WTG HTC. Absolutely beautiful! :aok
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: Motherland on February 04, 2009, 07:00:09 PM: Quote from: Kazaa on February 04, 2009, 06:44:50 PM
Reflections, wow now that's a massive leap forward in graphics, I would like to see more then the 3 polygon mountains though.
Missed this one?
(http://www2.hitechcreations.com/screenshots/terrain/tertest.jpg)
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: MrMeanie on February 04, 2009, 07:07:25 PM: when i tryed to watch the video and i got the bluescreen dont know why never has happened to me befor,
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: SKYGUNS on February 04, 2009, 07:32:42 PM: Now we need ducks to act like sheep..
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: Saxman on February 04, 2009, 07:38:23 PM: Quote from: SKYGUNS on February 04, 2009, 07:32:42 PM
Now we need ducks to act like sheep..

Stopping PTs and LVTs on a dime?
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: thndregg on February 04, 2009, 07:40:10 PM: Nice water, wtg. I hope my five-year-old ATI 9800 will be okay with it. Eventually, it might be interesting to see realistic effects of ship wakes.
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: WWhiskey on February 04, 2009, 08:03:22 PM: the new water is awesome!
the terrain looks good too,as far as i can tell.
i wonder :noid maybe give us a clip of it all in motion, maybe a low flyby in the Brewster :aok

i know i know two weeks ,, right????

as always,, great work, can't wait for the new stuff!!
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: WWhiskey on February 04, 2009, 08:06:54 PM: :noid :noid did someone see a periscope somewhere? :noid :noid
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: daddog on February 04, 2009, 08:12:54 PM: :aok
Very nice. I am looking forward to this update.
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: Xasthur on February 04, 2009, 08:49:21 PM: What sort of performance cost will this incur?

I might need to upgrade my computer again. :t
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: trotter on February 04, 2009, 10:25:16 PM: I am especially wondering how bullets hitting the water will look. And perhaps different sized splash impact for different caliber weapons?
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: Overlag on February 04, 2009, 10:28:45 PM: doesnt play with WMP but plays fine with VLC
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: USRanger on February 04, 2009, 10:34:19 PM: Worked fine on WMP for me. Both the .mpg and .avi.

Here's a "guess" of what it "might" look like from this angle.:

(http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/8302/saewe3.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: mechanic on February 04, 2009, 10:35:47 PM: purdy!
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: Beefcake on February 05, 2009, 01:27:55 AM: :O
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: MajWoody on February 05, 2009, 01:52:15 AM: I'm seeing it fine. I'm using the latest DIVX codecs for wmp.
I don't know if that's the reason I'm viewing it or if I just have the right wmp codecs to see it. <-- did that make sense?

I hope I'll still be able to play after it's released.
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: SectorNine50 on February 05, 2009, 01:54:09 AM: Good work HTC, looks absolutely brilliant! :aok
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: Bruv119 on February 05, 2009, 02:50:10 AM: WTFG HTC!!!! :O :aok :aok :aok
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: Bruv119 on February 05, 2009, 02:51:22 AM: Quote from: Xasthur on February 04, 2009, 08:49:21 PM
What sort of performance cost will this incur?

I might need to upgrade my computer again. :t

I'm sure they have made it as playable as possible for older machines. If not who cares? go buy a better one! it's the 21st century after all. ;)
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: Nilsen on February 05, 2009, 04:03:44 AM: New water looks great! :aok

Hope it wont stress my laptop too much.
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: Larry on February 05, 2009, 04:07:47 AM: Good to see we're upgrading to 2003 graphics. :aok
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: BaDkaRmA158Th on February 05, 2009, 04:22:27 AM: Exactly.

Keep em' coming. :salute
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: moot on February 05, 2009, 05:28:41 AM: cough skip bombing cough
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: Nilsen on February 05, 2009, 05:33:08 AM: Quote from: moot on February 05, 2009, 05:28:41 AM
cough skip bombing cough

LoL imagine all the squeeker lancsuka dorks throwing bombs like marbles across the water :lol
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: PanosGR on February 05, 2009, 05:36:29 AM: Great job! but since the water graphics got improved this means that we are going to get hydroplanes? :noid
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: Bruv119 on February 05, 2009, 05:38:06 AM: catalina to rescue all the bailed pilots that jumped because they were skeered of a bouncing bomb coming right at them.
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: moot on February 05, 2009, 06:02:40 AM: Quote from: Nilsen on February 05, 2009, 05:33:08 AM
LoL imagine all the squeeker lancsuka dorks throwing bombs like marbles across the water :lol
My rockets and 30mm are just begging for low & slow targets hugging the water.
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: Max on February 05, 2009, 08:07:28 AM: Quote from: Nilsen on February 05, 2009, 04:03:44 AM
New water looks great! :aok

Hope it wont stress my laptop too much.

You may have to switch over to premium brand mice pellets :D
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: Kazaa on February 05, 2009, 12:30:55 PM: I would like to know if HTC will redo the cloud textures? :O
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: moot on February 05, 2009, 12:32:30 PM: Can you imagine if we got that.. and weather again? :lol That would be awesome.
-I mean, if there's any time that'd favor an update/rework of clouds and weather, this could be it.
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: Kazaa on February 05, 2009, 12:45:04 PM: Quote from: moot on February 05, 2009, 12:32:30 PM
Can you imagine if we got that.. and weather again? :lol That would be awesome.
-I mean, if there's any time that'd favor an update/rework of clouds and weather, this could be it.

Don't tease the imagination.
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: macleod01 on February 05, 2009, 12:59:09 PM: Im curious how planes hitting the water will look. I mean atm it looks reasonably naff. With all due respect. I would hate for the splashes to remain the same with the new water effect. Any comment HT/Skuzzy/ anyone else?
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: Latrobe on February 05, 2009, 01:53:51 PM: Will there be new bullet impact on water too? Or will that stay the same as it is now? Very nice work HTC! :salute :aok :O
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: mia389 on February 06, 2009, 01:40:14 PM: Looks great. I cant wait to see this with the new terrains. Clouds/weather and a catalina would be sweet!!. I would love to use the Catalina for reconnisance. I am going to enjoy just flying arround
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: Clone155 on February 07, 2009, 09:50:52 PM: Is it just me, or does this look like the kind of water that could be plausible for, I don't know, U-BOATS? :pray :pray :pray
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: DaddyAck on February 07, 2009, 10:00:45 PM: I might have to consider an AHII return for me once this goes live.
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: 442w30 on February 08, 2009, 12:51:13 PM: Quote from: Clone155 on February 07, 2009, 09:50:52 PM
Is it just me, or does this look like the kind of water that could be plausible for, I don't know, U-BOATS? :pray :pray :pray

ALAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRMMMMMMMMMM!

Great terrains and water. :aok
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: 96Delta on February 09, 2009, 12:14:57 AM: Quote from: Clone155 on February 07, 2009, 09:50:52 PM
Is it just me, or does this look like the kind of water that could be plausible for, I don't know, U-BOATS? :pray :pray :pray

Clone, where have you been??
We already have a U-Boats in Aces High II!!!!! :lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhxYFO_7pIU&feature=related
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: Kermit de frog on February 09, 2009, 02:07:41 AM: Quote from: 96Delta on February 09, 2009, 12:14:57 AM
Clone, where have you been??
We already have a U-Boats in Aces High II!!!!! :lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhxYFO_7pIU&feature=related
:rofl
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: kj714 on February 09, 2009, 02:30:54 AM: Can we get a nice hollow break out of this? Perk the potato chips and fish boards please.
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: Shuffler on February 09, 2009, 11:55:38 AM: PWND... video removed....
Title: Re: new water and terain
Post by: GGhost on February 09, 2009, 12:12:04 PM: Looks good! Keep bringing us these nice improvements.... Thanks again HTC crew and Skuzzy.

:salute GGHOST