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Title: Axis and Allies
Post by: Cajunn on February 05, 2009, 01:08:37 PM
What do you guys think about an axis and allies main arena where there are only two countries, and I know there is already an axis and allies. But what I'm talking about is a main arena where if your axis you fly any axis planes and same for allies. I really think our players or diverse enough to make this work. I think it would be so much better, instead of having to develop tactics against every plane in the game you would only have to worry about one group of planes. Just an Idea.....
Title: Re: Axis and Allies
Post by: Karnak on February 05, 2009, 01:15:32 PM
What do you guys think about an axis and allies main arena where there are only two countries, and I know there is already an axis and allies. But what I'm talking about is a main arena where if your axis you fly any axis planes and same for allies. I really think our players or diverse enough to make this work. I think it would be so much better, instead of having to develop tactics against every plane in the game you would only have to worry about one group of planes. Just an Idea.....
I think the Allies would always win and would always substantially outnumber the Axis.


B-17G, B-24J, B-25, B-26B, Lancaster vs Ju88A-4, Ar234B, Ki-67.

SBD-5, TBM-3, Il-2 3M, Hurricane Mk IId vs Ju87D-2, D3A1, B6N2.
Title: Re: Axis and Allies
Post by: Lusche on February 05, 2009, 01:35:49 PM
I think the Allies would always win and would always substantially outnumber the Axis.


B-17G, B-24J, B-25, B-26B, Lancaster vs Ju88A-4, Ar234B, Ki-67.

SBD-5, TBM-3, Il-2 3M, Hurricane Mk IId vs Ju87D-2, D3A1, B6N2.


And don't forget
F4U-1, -1a, -1c, -1d, -4; Seafire, F6-F vs A6M2, A6M5
Title: Re: Axis and Allies
Post by: Karnak on February 05, 2009, 05:35:36 PM

And don't forget
F4U-1, -1a, -1c, -1d, -4; Seafire, F6F-5, F4F-4, FM-2 vs A6M2, A6M5
There, fixed again.   :P
Title: Re: Axis and Allies
Post by: E25280 on February 05, 2009, 05:43:16 PM
The Axis and Allies arena tried a completely open set with as much an MA feel (base captures and what not) at one point.  After some initial interest, it died off as the AvA is prone to do, due in no small part to persistently unbalanced numbers.
Title: Re: Axis and Allies
Post by: Motherland on February 05, 2009, 05:45:53 PM
The Axis and Allies arena tried a completely open set with as much an MA feel (base captures and what not) at one point.  After some initial interest, it died off as the AvA is prone to do, due in no small part to persistently unbalanced numbers.
It was more due to a complete self destruction of the AvA community than anything else.
Title: Re: Axis and Allies
Post by: E25280 on February 05, 2009, 05:50:14 PM
It was more due to a complete self destruction of the AvA community than anything else.
There were indeed a multitude of reasons why it didn't work, but IMO the fact the arena was unbalanced more often than not discouraged any newcomers from sticking to it for very long.

YMMV.
Title: Re: Axis and Allies
Post by: Babalonian on February 05, 2009, 05:50:53 PM
*cough* C-47 *cough*
Title: Re: Axis and Allies
Post by: Shane on February 05, 2009, 06:07:39 PM
I think the open plane setup would be nice to see, maybe every 4th week or something.. or maybe the last 3-4 days of the tour.

Title: Re: Axis and Allies
Post by: NoBaddy on February 05, 2009, 10:42:33 PM
There were indeed a multitude of reasons why it didn't work, but IMO the fact the arena was unbalanced more often than not discouraged any newcomers from sticking to it for very long.

YMMV.

For me, the "non-standard" arena settings have been the major turn off. It's always been to much of a pain to go back and forth.

Title: Re: Axis and Allies
Post by: james on February 05, 2009, 11:06:33 PM
How about an open planeset for each side during titanic Tuesday? Might lessen numbers in the ma and give an alternative to tt for those that don't enjoy it. Id love to go into ava and see a true open set per side when the events aren't running.
Title: Re: Axis and Allies
Post by: Anaxogoras on February 06, 2009, 01:16:27 AM
They tried this in Warbirds and it was a small disaster.  It tore the community apart.  Each side would constantly whine about how their side had it tougher and make all sorts of moral accusations against the people who flew for the other side.
Title: Re: Axis and Allies
Post by: Shane on February 06, 2009, 05:25:12 AM
How about an open planeset for each side during titanic Tuesday? Might lessen numbers in the ma and give an alternative to tt for those that don't enjoy it. Id love to go into ava and see a true open set per side when the events aren't running.

This is actually a pretty good idea... but maybe every other TT...   would give people a better chance to see the awesome variety of maps the AvA uses.

you AvA staffers listening, here?   :aok

the biggest obstacle, tho', would be having that change made, and then back to whatever afterwards, due to staffer availibility.
Title: Re: Axis and Allies
Post by: james on February 07, 2009, 03:36:56 PM
If I could go into the ava and see one side has the axis set to use and the other side the allied set to use and there were people in there to fight, i'd not spend alot of time in the MA ever again. When I went into the ava there were around 10 people total in the arena, I lined up on a 109 and almost on cue with my trigger the friggin cable puller/discoer disappears. Look for another fight and there is none to be found in the air. Have to play aces low to find a fight that day. No, thanks.  The ava to me should be the most sim they can throw at this game. The arena caps should be maxxed out because of how fun it would be in there but the gamey non historical planeset in the MA's is what the quakers want these days I guess. I say try ( PAY ATTENTION HERE THE WORD IS "TRY") and put an open planeset for each side during a titanic tuesday a little more often than every other one. If people see they can use the arena more they may go in there more often. If they see it's only available every now and then it'll get written off as a waste of time to wait for. I would wait all week for an FSO event. The ava events to me already are a joke to wait for since every time i try and attend one or pop into the arena it's a ghost town. No offense but that is what i've seen of it so far when I log in. Want to get more people in there? Open the planeset a little more and make the arena more available than for special events. Advertise a fight over the bbs on such and such a day. Make it a chess match between 2 sides and once a couple squads form it'll be like a virus in there.
Title: Re: Axis and Allies
Post by: Anaxogoras on February 07, 2009, 03:42:24 PM
I say try ( PAY ATTENTION HERE THE WORD IS "TRY") and put an open planeset for each side during a titanic tuesday a little more often than every other one.

The AvA arena is fubar every tuesday because it shares the same server as the main arena.
Title: Re: Axis and Allies
Post by: james on February 07, 2009, 03:58:15 PM
The AvA arena is fubar every tuesday because it shares the same server as the main arena.


This is most disheartening. Mondays and wednesdays maybe? What about leaving the planeset open for a couple of weeks to see if they would attract more people after some advertising of it? If theres a substantial amount of people to justify leaving it open then do it. This event change every friday but different planeset almost every day really gets annoying. That's what keeps me out of there now. Need to make a map ( learning this at the moment ) that every set can use and both sides can take advantage of with both cv's,gv's and air for a full fledged fight. Just not spitty vs.pony, ki vs. 109. Trying to make it so there's not alot of bases, each side has a bit more advantage to their historical stuff they had.  This is where the lack of modeled vehicles hits the ava and special events arenas right in the *&^K. Well, if theres ever an open set that has some people in it i'll be zipping around in there. <S> for at least bringing it up.
Title: Re: Axis and Allies
Post by: Larry on February 08, 2009, 08:01:25 AM
The AvA is setup for historical setups not what you are suggesting. That kind of thing would be for the SEA arenas.
Title: Re: Axis and Allies
Post by: james on February 08, 2009, 03:04:39 PM
So at any given time to see an open planeset per side I should go to a special events arena is what you are saying?
The ava would be more appropriate no?
Title: Re: Axis and Allies
Post by: Larry on February 08, 2009, 03:28:42 PM
SEA2 is open for that kinda stuff. PM one of the CMs and give them your idea and I'm betting they'll do it. The AvA is setup for week long historical events. They have done what you are asking before but it dint see much interest. And as someone else said when ever TT is up it screws with the AvA. Most of us have given up flying in there on Tuesdays because you lose UDP right as you enter and your vox doesn't work.
Title: Re: Axis and Allies
Post by: james on February 08, 2009, 05:38:27 PM
Looking at the names o the arenas i'd expect them to be the opposite. If it's no good to go in there during TT then it's kind of a bust for the ava to even try going beyond special events.  Weird setup here.