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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Cajunn on February 06, 2009, 12:55:33 AM
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1st off, any of you history buffs know if there were any Spitfires that fought in the pacific theater during WW2?
2nd is a little history quiz question, does anyone know when the black and white stripes on the planes of the allies showed up and what they were put there for?
Hint: they were put there for an event in European theater.
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#1 yes
#2 DDay invasion to help with identification
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1) Australian squadrons 79, 85, 452 and 457 flew Spit V and VIII in the SW Pacific area.
2) The black and White wing strips (invasion stripes) were used on allied aircraft during the D-day landings to prevent friendly fire incidents but they had been used before. Typhoons had them as early as 1942 to distinguish them from the FW190 (some people had problems!)
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"problems" and If i kill a brit he can't make more seemed to coincide.
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1) Yes there where spits in the pacific. They where with the RAAF.
- No 79 squadron in New Guinea (1943) had Spit F.Mk Vc. In mid 1944 Spit F.Mk. III at Morotai and early 1945 Netherlands East Indies. 1944, mid , SPITFIRE F.Mk.VIII at Morotai. 1945, early, SPITFIRE F.Mk.VIII at Morotai in the Netherlands East Indies.
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- No 85 Squadron at Guildford, Western Australia had Supermarine SPITFIRE F.Mk.Vc
- No 80 Fighter Wing RAAF. Sattler Field, Northern Territory, Australia had Supermarine Spitfire F.Mk.VIII and at Morotai, Moluccas 1945, Summer
- No 452 Squadron at Australia-NT had Supermarine SPITFIRE F.Mk.Vc(1943), 1943 Supermarine SPITFIRE F.Mk.Vc at Darwin and 1944 Supermarine SPITFIRE F.Mk.VIII.
- No 457 Squadron at Darwin, Australia had Supermarine SPITFIRE F.Mk.Vc in 1943, 1944 Supermarine SPITFIRE F.Mk.VIII at Clark Field, Australia and 1945, February, Supermarine SPITFIRE F.Mk.VIII at Morotai and 1945, June Supermarine SPITFIRE F.Mk.VIII at Labuan Island off Borneo
- No 548 Squadron, 1944 Supermarine SPITFIRE F.Mk.VIII at Australia-NT
2) I am throwing this out, each strip has to do with a major invasion (Normandy, Italy, Sicily) that they where part of?
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1) Yes there where spits in the pacific. They where with the RAAF.
- No 79 squadron in New Guinea (1943) had Spit F.Mk Vc. In mid 1944 Spit F.Mk. III at Morotai and early 1945 Netherlands East Indies. 1944, mid , SPITFIRE F.Mk.VIII at Morotai. 1945, early, SPITFIRE F.Mk.VIII at Morotai in the Netherlands East Indies.
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- No 85 Squadron at Guildford, Western Australia had Supermarine SPITFIRE F.Mk.Vc
- No 80 Fighter Wing RAAF. Sattler Field, Northern Territory, Australia had Supermarine Spitfire F.Mk.VIII and at Morotai, Moluccas 1945, Summer
- No 452 Squadron at Australia-NT had Supermarine SPITFIRE F.Mk.Vc(1943), 1943 Supermarine SPITFIRE F.Mk.Vc at Darwin and 1944 Supermarine SPITFIRE F.Mk.VIII.
- No 457 Squadron at Darwin, Australia had Supermarine SPITFIRE F.Mk.Vc in 1943, 1944 Supermarine SPITFIRE F.Mk.VIII at Clark Field, Australia and 1945, February, Supermarine SPITFIRE F.Mk.VIII at Morotai and 1945, June Supermarine SPITFIRE F.Mk.VIII at Labuan Island off Borneo
- No 548 Squadron, 1944 Supermarine SPITFIRE F.Mk.VIII at Australia-NT
2) I am throwing this out, each strip has to do with a major invasion (Normandy, Italy, Sicily) that they where part of?
I doubt they use the same idea as dress uniforms for the military on planes, but maybe :salute
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O'cmon the stripes were from san fransisco fashion designer.....they thought they looked pretty. Geez i thought everyone knew that..... <S> as you were. :rock
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1. FAA Seafires operated in the Pacific too, mostly for fleet defense (eg. at Iwo Jima) :)
SEAC RAF spits operated as far East as Hong Kong, not sure if that counts as "Pacific."
2. Plenty of Typhoons had stripes way before D-Day because apparently they looked a bit like 190s, I'm sure Ive also seen stripes on RAF aircraft from 41/42 onwards. Maybe they were used for any major invasion/raid?
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:cry Stripes make my Tiffie look fat! :cry
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ok couldn't resist googling this one ;)
2. First use of invasion stripes I found was during the 1942 Dieppe raid on the Westland Whirlwind:
(http://johnsample.50megs.com/images/whirlwind.html.jpg)
(http://www.allstarsclan.nl/forums/style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)
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Well, during the Sicily invasion, some goonies carrying
the 82nd airborn flew over the allied invasion fleet offshore..
They got slaughtered by the ack...
So, invasion stripes!!!
RC
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Spit Vs and VIIIs as well as some PRXI photo recce birds in the CBI and PTO both with the RAF and RAAF
Black and white stripes on Tiffies from 42 on. RAF in 39 had half black, half white undersides on fighters for ID too but later went to gray undersides. There were black and white ID bands on RAF fighters for Operation Starkey in the summer of 43 also, and the RAF and RN birds in Korea had black and white stripes on Spits, Seafires, Sea Furies etc.
I believe the C47s shot down during the Sicily invasion were shot down at night, so ID bands wouldn't have helped.
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Nice job on the question, I had just recently found that bit of info out thought it was interesting. And thanks for the info on the spits in the pacific!
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another quiz does anyone know of pilots whining about HEAD ONs during WW2 Go
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another quiz does anyone know of pilots whining about HEAD ONs during WW2 Go
Pilots who lost the HO were probably not able to whine anymore...and they had no forums to do this anyways :D
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If this is what now goes for tough questions on the MB we are all in trouble....
new ones...
#1. What was the date of the 1st US piloted raid on the Germans and what aircraft were the pilots flying... (no googling)
#2. Who flew the last aircraft to be shot down in WWII and what was it?
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What was the only plane to fly in 5 diffrent airforces, both during war, and after?
Hint, its a plane that has similarity's to a plane or planes in the game.
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USCH the answer to the 2nd question was p47 which was found and recovered in a fresh water lake in i think Austria (not 100 percent sure that was the country) the pilot did bail successfully as well
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USCH the answer to the 2nd question was p47 which was found and recovered in a fresh water lake in i think Austria (not 100 percent sure that was the country) the pilot did bail successfully as well
I think i know the crash you are thinking of but that was the last ETO one (if we are thinking right) but i didnt say ETO :D
still a good try
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LOL no u did not my bad coach
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#1. What was the date of the 1st US piloted raid on the Germans and what aircraft were the pilots flying... (no googling)
July 4th, 1942.
The Americans flew Douglas A-20 Bostons. Of the six aircraft, only two made it to target. Two were shot down.
#2. Who flew the last aircraft to be shot down in WWII and what was it?
Not sure, but IIRC Erich Hartmann shot down a Yak-7 on May 9th, 1945, which probably would have been one of the last if not the last aircraft shot down over Europe.
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What was the only plane to fly in 5 diffrent airforces, both during war, and after?
Hint, its a plane that has similarity's to a plane or planes in the game.
Off of the top of my head, the Luftwaffe, FAF, ANR/RA, and the Hungarian and Romanian airforces operated the Bf.109 in combat during the war.
Spain, although they were neutral, operated the Ha1112, which was a Spanish-produced variant of the 109, during and after the war, and Czechoslovakia and Israel (ironic, eh?) operated the Avia S-199, another re-engined 109 variant, post war as well. Israeli pilots flew the Avia S-199s in the Arab-Israeli War of 1948 against (even more ironic) Egyptian Spitfires and Hurricanes, among others.
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Im pretty sure Mustangs flew for America-Australia-Canada-China-New Zealand-UK and Russia during the war (and probably others).
After the war it would have been America-Argentina-Australia-Bolivia-Canada-China-Costa Rica-Cuba-Dominican Republic-El Salvador-France-Germany-Haiti-Honduras-Indonesia-Israel-Italy-Japan-Netherlands-Nicaragua-New Zealand-Philippines-Poland-Somalia-South Africa-South Korea-Russia (Soviet Union)-Sweden-Switzerland-UK-Uraguay and Venezuela (and probably others).
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Im pretty sure Mustangs flew for America-Australia-Canada-China-New Zealand-UK and Russia during the war (and probably others).
After the war it would have been America-Argentina-Australia-Bolivia-Canada-China-Costa Rica-Cuba-Dominican Republic-El Salvador-France-Germany-Haiti-Honduras-Indonesia-Israel-Italy-Japan-Netherlands-Nicaragua-New Zealand-Philippines-Poland-Somalia-South Africa-South Korea-Russia (Soviet Union)-Sweden-Switzerland-UK-Uraguay and Venezuela (and probably others).
Russia recieved one, Allison Engined, P-51 only.
wrongway
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#1. What was the date of the 1st US piloted raid on the Germans and what aircraft were the pilots flying... (no googling)
June 1941 onwards, Hurricanes from 71Sqn flying bomber escort over France :D
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If this is what now goes for tough questions on the MB we are all in trouble....
new ones...
#1. What was the date of the 1st US piloted raid on the Germans and what aircraft were the pilots flying... (no googling)
#2. Who flew the last aircraft to be shot down in WWII and what was it?
Question 1 is wide open to interpretation. The first USAAF attack on German targets in Europe was on June 12, 1942. B-24s flying out of Egypt bombed the German refinery at Ploesti. Only 13 B-24s were involved. The Boston raid was RAF aircraft manned by American crews and occurred 3 weeks later.
Question 2 will be highly disputed as it is largely undefined. The last American kill in Europe was on May 8, 1945 (F6 Mustang photo-recon bird shot down a 190 around 8 PM. I'm sure there would be similar claims from the Soviets and Germans.
I could check Craven and Cates for the last kill in the Pacific, but I'm too busy this morning (I have a Jeep to wash).
My regards,
Widewing
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Russia recieved one, Allison Engined, P-51 only.
I dont think thats accurate. I understand they had 10 Allison engined Mustangs through lend-lease that saw combat and one squadrons worth of P51Ds abandoned in shuttle missions that were repaired and flown by the Russian Air Force but not in front line service.
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What was the only plane to fly in 5 diffrent airforces, both during war, and after?
C-47?
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What was the only plane to fly in 5 diffrent airforces, both during war, and after?
I'm more inclined towards the JU-52. Was exported heavy before the war.
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since all the questions are answered already...
what was the highest interception made during WWII? Who intercepted who and at what altitude?
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since all the questions are answered already...
what was the highest interception made during WWII? Who intercepted who and at what altitude?
I think it was at around 49,000 feet, a spitfire against a Ju-188, IIRC.
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I think it was at around 49,000 feet, a spitfire against a Ju-188, IIRC.
As far as i know it was a spitfire that intercepted a Ju-86 (at least i think it's a ju-86) at 52,000ft
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As far as i know it was a spitfire that intercepted a Ju-86 (at least i think it's a ju-86) at 52,000ft
According to Wiki it was a modified Spit V against a Ju-86 at 49,000 feet over Egypt, when two more were shot down the type was withdrawn from service.
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49,000 feet
49? Well you do know that you can't always quote wikipedia, anyone can change that.
BTW can you give me a link to that page, you might be right after all. :)
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Yeah heres the link, it was close to both of our guesses.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junkers_Ju_86
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I think it was at around 49,000 feet, a spitfire against a Ju-188, IIRC.
As far as i know it was a spitfire that intercepted a Ju-86 (at least i think it's a ju-86) at 52,000ft
According to Wiki it was a modified Spit V against a Ju-86 at 49,000 feet over Egypt, when two more were shot down the type was withdrawn from service.
ok i see, the 86 could fly up to 52,500ft, but it got intercepted at 49,000ft (climbing i guess lol).
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another quiz does anyone know of pilots whining about HEAD ONs during WW2 Go
Well the drop to the ground afterward probably took a while so they may have had time for a few tears
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since all the questions are answered already...
what was the highest interception made during WWII? Who intercepted who and at what altitude?
F/O Prince Emanuel Galitzine in a modified Spitfire IX intercepted a Ju86R over England, September 9, 1942 at 44K.
The modified Spit Vs in Egypt managed 42K going after Ju96P's in August 42.