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Title: British anti tank gun mounted reverse?
Post by: stephen on February 07, 2009, 03:44:56 AM
I seem to recall a british vehicle that had perhaps the same gun as the firefly, yet had it mounted backwards on the chassi...anyone give me more info on the vehicle?
Wierd I know, but I swear I remember reading about it somwhere....
Title: Re: British anti tank gun mounted reverse?
Post by: Rino on February 07, 2009, 06:17:46 AM
      You must mean the Archer:

(http://www.balagan.org.uk/war/ai/images/archer02.jpg)

Title: Re: British anti tank gun mounted reverse?
Post by: stephen on February 07, 2009, 10:30:10 AM
think so, thought it had a blade on the fron for some reason though, thank you! :aok
Title: Re: British anti tank gun mounted reverse?
Post by: macleod01 on February 08, 2009, 10:03:54 PM
With a gun pointing backwards, are you SURE its not Italian?  :P
Title: Re: British anti tank gun mounted reverse?
Post by: RipChord929 on February 09, 2009, 06:50:05 AM
In 1940 North Africa the Brits used something
called a Portee.. Pretty much a 2ton Lorre with
a 2pndr Antitank gun in the back.. Pointed backward..

RC
Title: Re: British anti tank gun mounted reverse?
Post by: Greebo on February 09, 2009, 07:51:59 AM
The Archer was a lightly armoured "shoot and scoot" tank destroyer. It would set up an ambush position, fire off a few rounds and then get the hell out of there. So the back to front set up made sense as it could get away that much faster.
Title: Re: British anti tank gun mounted reverse?
Post by: ERyan on February 09, 2009, 03:33:11 PM
With a gun pointing backwards, are you SURE its not Italian?  :P

(how do u tell the polish tank from the rest... its the 1 being pushed
....how do u stop it .... shoot out the tires and or ppl pushing it........... :lol
Title: Re: British anti tank gun mounted reverse?
Post by: stephen on February 10, 2009, 09:07:43 PM
Anyone have specifacations on this vehicle?
Title: Re: British anti tank gun mounted reverse?
Post by: Fencer51 on February 10, 2009, 09:53:39 PM
(how do u tell the polish tank from the rest... its the 1 being pushed
....how do u stop it .... shoot out the tires and or ppl pushing it........... :lol

Polish Tank

(http://www.netaces.org/skins/firefly/skin1.jpg)

The Polish were one heck of a group of fighters.
Title: Re: British anti tank gun mounted reverse?
Post by: SmokinLoon on February 10, 2009, 11:13:43 PM
(how do u tell the polish tank from the rest... its the 1 being pushed
....how do u stop it .... shoot out the tires and or ppl pushing it........... :lol

Surely, you have no idea what you are speaking of.  Joke, or no joke. 
Title: Re: British anti tank gun mounted reverse?
Post by: frank3 on February 11, 2009, 05:40:34 AM
Yeah that's just wrong.

Now if you were talking of French tanks... :D
(no idea what I'm speaking of either)
Title: Re: British anti tank gun mounted reverse?
Post by: macleod01 on February 12, 2009, 04:25:58 PM
I think the polish jokes are in bad taste considering how much they fought for our country (I.E Britain)

However, if only the Italians had entered the marathon the would win it hands down! Brilliant runners! :P
Title: Re: British anti tank gun mounted reverse?
Post by: 1pLUs44 on February 12, 2009, 07:48:47 PM
Polish Tank

(http://www.netaces.org/skins/firefly/skin1.jpg)

The Polish were one heck of a group of fighters.

+1, I've read amazing WWII stories about them.
Title: Re: British anti tank gun mounted reverse?
Post by: Ack-Ack on February 12, 2009, 08:59:56 PM
+1, I've read amazing WWII stories about them.

People make a lot of jokes because of the famous Polish calvalry charges against German tanks.  But when you think about it, it took a large amount of balls to make such a charge knowing that it was futile and there was a 99.9999% chance you wouldn't survive.  Even after the fall of Poland, it's soldiers still continued to fight as resistance and partisan fighters.  The Poles don't deserve the stupid wise cracks like the ones from that little twit valdals. 


ack-ack
Title: Re: British anti tank gun mounted reverse?
Post by: Banshee7 on February 12, 2009, 09:13:14 PM
I should be receiving a book in the mail about the 303rd Squadron ( a POLISH squadron) in the next few days.  I suggest people do some reading on the internet about these boys.  The Polish kick A-R-S-E
Title: Re: British anti tank gun mounted reverse?
Post by: RipChord929 on February 13, 2009, 06:50:38 AM
People shouldn't hack on the poles too much...
They have a long and great battle history..

As part of the holy roman empire, the polish
teutonic knights stopped the mongol horde from
invading europe.. Outnumbered 500 to 1, They were
slaughtered, but caused so many casualties to the
mongols, that they couldn't continue their conquest...

They changed history!!!
Thank God for the Poles, or western culture wouldn't exist...

There are MANY other examples!!!

RC
Title: Re: British anti tank gun mounted reverse?
Post by: chewie86 on February 13, 2009, 07:36:24 AM
I think the polish jokes are in bad taste considering how much they fought for our country (I.E Britain)

However, if only the Italians had entered the marathon the would win it hands down! Brilliant runners! :P
With a gun pointing backwards, are you SURE its not Italian?  :P

[OT]
An Italian guy must have beaten you during your infancy,did he? Dont misunderstand me, but if you were fighting a war in their same conditions (not instructd officers, not trained infantry, no industry.. basically a country very far from to be ready for the war) you probably would have took care about your life than to a single man's country. For example do some research about the "Italian army in Russia, Alpini"
[/OT]

sorry for OT, pls respect other countries.

chewie.
Title: Re: British anti tank gun mounted reverse?
Post by: Ack-Ack on February 13, 2009, 01:14:31 PM


As part of the holy roman empire, the polish
teutonic knights stopped the mongol horde from
invading europe.. Outnumbered 500 to 1, They were
slaughtered, but caused so many casualties to the
mongols, that they couldn't continue their conquest...


RC

Actually, that's not quite true.  The Battle of Legnica was a crushing loss for the combined European armies that resulted in the death of their commander, Henry II the Pious of Silesia and the majority of the noble/prince Knights of the European allies.  The Mongols never had intentions to expand further westward, and the Mongol forces that fought in the battle were a diversionary force to occupy the European allies to prevent them from coming to the aid of the Kingdom of Hungary, which was the main target of the main Mongol army.  Afterwards, the Mongols retreated not because they lost (they thoroughly beat the crap out of the Hungarians and the European forces) but because Grand Khan Ögedei had passed the previous year and Ghangis Khan ordered all descendents to return to Mongolia to select a new Grand Khan.

Not saying the Europeans didn't fight bravely, I'm sure they did but they did lose this battle.


ack-ack
Title: Re: British anti tank gun mounted reverse?
Post by: Banshee7 on February 13, 2009, 07:08:32 PM
 :salute Pulaski and Kosciuszko
Title: Re: British anti tank gun mounted reverse?
Post by: stephen on February 14, 2009, 12:57:14 AM
LOL ok so this post has strayd a bit id say .... :lol
Title: Re: British anti tank gun mounted reverse?
Post by: RipChord929 on February 14, 2009, 06:32:31 AM
Actually, that's not quite true.  The Battle of Legnica was a crushing loss for the combined European armies that resulted in the death of their commander, Henry II the Pious of Silesia and the majority of the noble/prince Knights of the European allies.  The Mongols never had intentions to expand further westward, and the Mongol forces that fought in the battle were a diversionary force to occupy the European allies to prevent them from coming to the aid of the Kingdom of Hungary, which was the main target of the main Mongol army.  Afterwards, the Mongols retreated not because they lost (they thoroughly beat the crap out of the Hungarians and the European forces) but because Grand Khan Ögedei had passed the previous year and Ghangis Khan ordered all descendents to return to Mongolia to select a new Grand Khan.

Not saying the Europeans didn't fight bravely, I'm sure they did but they did lose this battle.


ack-ack

Hey ack, no argument from me, good post...

I do most of this stuff from memory, and that is
one of the small dusty ones from the far back shelf, lol....

Yep, the european army was slaughtered, the mongols left
none alive, as was their custom in warfare.. But also,  I
know the Mongol army retreated on the verge of conquest..

That definately changed the course of history..

But I didn't know about them being ordered back..
Thats a new one to me...

My point was, that the poles are a fightin people...
In NO way, are they inept, or chicken squat!!!
So many times in history they have taken the field,
with no hope of victory, but they did it anyway...

They should be given their due...

 :salute
RC